Debating giving up.

[user808a]

Money aspects: spent $200 in the first three weeks, batteries, chargers, cartos, clearomizers, and so many juices. Three more weeks until my break even point which I'm sure I can make and exceed with what i have now. =)

Health aspects: stopped coughing, no more anxiety from smoking, and I feel much better. Think about money costs now vaping versus smoking now an healthcare costs when we get older.

Other aspects: my girlfriend and I are very happy that I don't smell anymore, I am no longer ashamed of what my mouth may taste like, I don't waste time going outside to smoke, vaping taste so much better than smoking, it's an interesting hobby, did I say multiple flavors? I had issues with being limited to a handful of menthol type cigs.

When I first started vaping I was concerned about the amount I was spending and keeping up with my break even point. Now I have realized I would pay more to vape than smoke, even though I know that will not be the case.

 

[Cil]

Just relax, I wanted to stop smoking so for the first two weeks didn't use anything but the occasional bit of gum (nicorette) and after that amount of time I would have smoked my sock.

My wife found the crappy e-cigs on e bay and it was a life saver, then went a bit silly and bought every thing I could find, spent a fortune, got quite a lot of rubbish, was stalking the post man, on the web every five minutes and became completely obsessed with vaping.

That was 3 Years ago, now have a SS GGTS, use Boge Cartos and make my own juice at about 6MGs 70/30 PG/VG.

PG (Pharma grade) from e bay 500 ML for £5.00, VG for Boots (Chemists) about 1 £1.00 for 200 ML, 50 MG nic juice from LF about £25.00 and flavourings about a £10.00 that should get you through about 3 to 4 Months. Plus about 10 carto a month £10.00.

That works out about £5.00 a week on vaping now I'm at the maintenance level, it also become second nature just like smoking used to be so...hang in there, if you have a smoke don't worry, you haven't failed.

Good luck.

 

[AttyPops]

I can't make you quit smoking. You have to want to.

e-cigs are ....finicky. It's harder than smoking. It has a learning curve.

It WILL save you plenty of $$. It IS less harmful than smoking.

All that said, there's a lot of devices and some learning curve. Those cartos should last you more that 2 days on average. IDK what PV you are using. So.... give it and yourself a chance and focus on why it isn't working...ask questions...give details about hardware.

As a last resort...try atomizers and dripping. Get the proper ohm joye atomizers for your battery voltage. If vv, try atomizers around 2.0 ohms. Dripping has a bit more "hand/arm motion" associated with it, but it's the least-hardware-problem way to vape. Atomizers are easily cleaned and last a month or more easily.

As to $$$.... DIY e-juice and using atomizers. Also a PV with replaceable batteries allows you to replace batteries for $5.00.

I think I spend around $30.00 per month or some such. Sometimes more to get new PV or something. A LOT less than for cigs/tobacco.

Good Luck.

 

[Iffy]

Let's put this in perspective...

Now that I've found what I like, I can vape for a month for the price of a doctor's visit co-pay! Plus, I don't have to go to a doctor as often...

 

[damthisisfun]

I was thinking the same thing - well - no - I dont wanna go back to analogs - period. But I really have been spending too much on purchasing hardware and juices. And yes - last nite on my was home - my CE2 ws running low and though i had juice - dint wanna pull over and refill. An analog - well u gotta do it light up. It is more work than analogs. Hardware doesnt bother me that much as it should last a while - but dang juices seems to be a big expense until one finds the few he/she likes. But then I read about DIY - both juice n coils/wicks.....with the juice I so far have failed (but will continue to try) - coils n wicks - wow - talk about fun. I now think of vaping as a hobby - well - more the diy as a hobby - makes me happy - lol - specially when i put my glasses on and get 4 turns of coil from my N 33 g wire and am able to re-coil a ce5 and then use cotton wicks and vape - feels good. feel proud...........i have achieved something. I have made something.

 

[themyst]

Im seriously having second thoughts about what i have gotten myself into. It seems that this is a big time money pit for me and im just getting started. So much research done and to do, so many reviews watched and to watch, so much equipment to buy and maintain, cant even take them out into the rain. I know its better for my health but ends up being more expensive than roll your own for me so I need a good reason other than my health why to remain a vaper. Please someone, help me.

Don't do what I did, get a recommended mod universally loved here (e.g. Pro-Vari or Silver Bullet; if you're on a relative budget) get some Vivi Nova tanks or Splitfires/CE9's with some good heads and batteries and you'll be ok. Over two months, I have amassed a collection of parts, PVs and what-not that I wish I never bought.

Yes, there are costs associated with vaping in addition to the initial investment, but given that I saved $720 over 60 days ($12.00 a pack in NYC) they will still be far less than if you went back to smokes. I went from being a pack a day smoker to a 100% vaper overnight. Perhaps that ROI is a bit longer based on the cost of cigarettes in your area, but I say it's worth it. I can smoke in the office, my car actually smells like leather again, and I can sit at the non-smoking tables at the casinos (no one ever complains).

Silver Bullet, Vivi Nova or Splitfire/CE9 @ 2.4ohm, 3000mah 18650, some extra heads, 36ml juice, have at it. That's my current setup at least. I vape 2 - 2.5ml per day, and this 3000mah 18650 lasts all day with power to spare.

 

[Black Strat]

You have to want to vape to stay at it, same as you have to want to smoke to go back to it.

I started vaping for the health reasons and really got into it because I found I really, really liked vaping.

Either way you weigh your personal pros and cons and go with want you really want to do.

There are fantastic devices which are relatively inexpensive (like eGo batteries and Mini Vivi Novas) and juice vendors with decent, low cost juices (like ECBlend) so it does not have to be an expensive proposition.

Just remember, without a doubt, vaping is a healthier option! (and tastier and not smelly and eventually will be more socially acceptable)

 

[cags]

when I started I did spend more than I spent on cigs. but only because I went a little crazy and turned it into a bit of a hobby & and was on a liquid hunt. and I wanted to make sure I had backups for my backups! but after a few months I came to my senses and slowed down the spending.

I went a little against what most people seem to do - when I started I wanted to go from 2+pad to 1 pack a day. so if I wanted a cig I made myself vape for a while first. then if I still wanted the cig, I had it (guilt free) in the first week I went from 40+ cigs a day to 15! without much pain. I continued that way and after a month of vaping I was down to 2 cigs a day.
I'm old and I don't believe in stressing myself out too much (which will probably kill you quicker than cigs!) so I advise trying different nic levels, maybe the wta and mostly relaxing and just do the best you can at any given moment

don't count the cigs you smoke, count the ones you don't !

you can do it! good luck

 

[jj2]

You must be young and haven't experienced the health problems yet. I wish there would have been something like this to help me quit about 20 or 30 years ago and I wouldn't have COPD now. I don't know the type of mod you got but get a Vision Vivi Nova tank to go with it and a couple of spare coil heads. It will last you for months. If you are having problems with the mod pick up a Spinner to back it up.
You really need to stick with it because nothing good will come from smoking.

That is me to the T. Your health with so thank you later when you hit 60 and haven't had an analog for years!!!

 

[cwolfman13]

Im seriously having second thoughts about what i have gotten myself into. It seems that this is a big time money pit for me and im just getting started. So much research done and to do, so many reviews watched and to watch, so much equipment to buy and maintain, cant even take them out into the rain. I know its better for my health but ends up being more expensive than roll your own for me so I need a good reason other than my health why to remain a vaper. Please someone, help me.

I think you're overlooking the really important part here...it's not the $$$ savings, it's the life savings...as in saving your life. I think that if you got into vaping just to save money, you're probably in it for the wrong reason. Myself, I'm probably pretty much just breaking even in RE to $$$, but I'm already way ahead of where I was in RE to my quality of life and on the high road to a healthier and happier life.

To boot, I don't think it's necessary to mod and do all of that stuff...yeah, it's cool...but it's really a hobby thing at that point; as with any hobby, it costs $$$. I think it's pretty easy to K.I.S.S (Keep It Simple Stupid) and have vaping work for you.

Just my 2 cents, but don't go back to the ciggies...they're deadly.

 

[JENerationX]

How long have you been vaping? I hit a mild depressive state a little over a month in.... it's natural to feel some loss over giving up a habit that was with you for so long. Vaping isn't, or shouldn't be about the money. If you save money, great..... but I guarantee you that you are saving you, and that's far more important.

 

[tnt56]

Don't give up. Believe me I understand the struggle. I come to ECF everyday. Not just for the information and chat but most important the support this group can provide.

 

[cags]

.........I think that if you got into vaping just to save money, you're probably in it for the wrong reason....

I got into vaping only, strictly because of the money.

and still it worked for me. in fact I exceeded the goal I had. I know I am in the minority though. so I am not sure there is a wrong reason to start vaping (well, unless you were a non smoker to begin with).

 

[Magic Of Light]

Thanks everybody for the support, I had some wta and habbit withdraws last night that were almost too much for me to handle, pacing, rocking, just general geeking for a smoke even though I was vaping. My nic lvls are around 18mg so its not the strength, its most likely the wta and the fact that i have already dropped 240 on stuff. Ill get a couple vision spinners to back up my mod and rotate when I can, and use the mod mainly as an ohm checker for my rba when i get one. I feel better about things today, maybe because I bought 1 black and mild to hit a few times before sleeping. But im making progress at any rate. 14 years of smoking has done horrible things to my lungs and voice and I look to put it behind me forever. Thank you all.

 

[DC2]

I would say that 18mg strength is pretty low for a roll-your-own smoker.
How many of those were you smoking per day?

 

[Un-Loco]

Imho, 18mg nic isnt going to cut it for you if your geeking for a cig 20 days in to vaping, but your kinda vague about your progress and how many analogs your consuming per day. 24 mg when i started was rough for a week or so for me. If smoke still tastes good and is satisfying 20 days in, your probably still smoking. Not judging about that, heck i have been vaping for a year, then stopped vaping and had a analog relapse one night after drinking, so i had to reset my counter last month lol. No one here is gunna be mad if you smoke, its all bout you, ya know? We can help ya make decisions on what to get on budgets, but if someone posts "what mod should i get" well the answer is generally a 200$ VV mod.
That answer is a double edged sword. It can help those who wanna get into vaping and are not looking to save money in the short term or are just near sighted. Most people that are digging into forums will eventually get a provari or gg mod and they think back and say "i wish i would have just dumped the money into this from the start" so they give people that advice.

But you can get a ego twist starter kit and tank set ups for under 100$ and even most enthusiasts would be able to live off that just fine. More than likely, everyone here has a few 1000mah twists and keep one in our pouch for a backup when out. I personally have a shorty carto on a 510 cigalike for stealth vaping, 1000mah twist w/vivi nova tank, and a 15 mg juice in my travel pouch. Carry in my pocket my new kicked SB with a DID clone. Dont keep it in my pocket if im not wearing loose clothes tho... Lots of meat gazers out there.

Do i need all this everywhere i go? Nope... Just a vape nerd.. And not the biggest vape nerd here either lol.

I bought my wife a provari with a vivi nova. She just rolls around with that assuming everything is gunna work and the battery will never die. Completely unprepared... Doesnt even know how to check the ohms. Does she need that? Nope... She just thinks its pretty and knows ill get her squared away if anything goes wrong. Shes lucky shes pretty... Lol

i have adhd so not sure of my point anymore... But my wife is hot!

 

[Coil]

I gotta agree. If your even puffing occasionally on Black and Milds 18mg aint gonna cut it! The throat hit alone off a B&M is like hitting 24mg on a fresh 2000Mah battery on a LR atty (IMO.) At first all I vaped was heavy backo flavors. ie: Flu Cured, RY4's, 555, DARK backo juices from Backwoods Brew... all at 24mg nic.

Here and there I would dabble with fruit flavor juices but I wasn't really ready for that yet. Now I rarely vape backo's. Backo blends sometimes but that just goes to show how your taste buds might change over time. To each their own though right? I would highly recommend getting some LR atty's and some 24mg nic level juice... You gotta remember you aren't getting all those 1,000's of other chemicals that are in stinkies that your body's used to from smoking when vaping. That nic level might need to go up a bit till you pretty much detox off
this----->Cigarette Ingredients - Chemicals in Cigarettes

It seems like your headed in the right direction though. Keep experimenting and moving forward!

 

[Maptec]

Thanks everybody for the support, I had some wta and habbit withdraws last night that were almost too much for me to handle, pacing, rocking, just general geeking for a smoke even though I was vaping. My nic lvls are around 18mg so its not the strength, its most likely the wta and the fact that i have already dropped 240 on stuff. Ill get a couple vision spinners to back up my mod and rotate when I can, and use the mod mainly as an ohm checker for my rba when i get one. I feel better about things today, maybe because I bought 1 black and mild to hit a few times before sleeping. But im making progress at any rate. 14 years of smoking has done horrible things to my lungs and voice and I look to put it behind me forever. Thank you all.

I know this has been talked about many times and everyone has a different opinion on the subject. Some people have an easy time letting go of smoking once they start vaping and others it is a daily struggle. My opinion is if the craving for a smoke is so bad that you are getting depressed and having physical issues, just smoke one. Yes it is bad but quitting smoking is just not a switch that can be flipped for some. Everyone's path to quitting/switching is different.

As far as Having trouble with equipment. I went through the same issues. Trying everything on the market to just have a trouble free vaping experience. In the back of your mind you ask yourself why go through all the trouble when it is much easier to just light a smoke. I agree with most people when they say your personal health is the reason. I did come across something that is not talked about too much in general or new member chats, Bottom feeders. I got myself a VMOD XL from vapage, but this is what works for me so keep looking at your options. If you like tanks, as stated before, the Vivi Nova tank is nice. If your looking to get into the world of bottom feeders, the Vmod has a nice starting price. If you just want a small stick, the ego twists with the CE4's/Vivi Nova mini, Kanger T3's are a good start.

I with you the best of luck and a happy vape

 

[blondeambition3]

I feel you pain.. I do, but the problem isn't the money or time invested or to invest it's simply your ability to let go.

Your obviously one who puts great regard into the "value" of something. From your statement about cost of RYO to the notice of wear on your 80$ mod. That's not wear, that's use. Use of something that has kept you from smoking. Use of something that is letting your body repair itself after years of abuse. Don't think of it as $10 loss from a dent or ding on an 80$ mod, think of it as a journey.

I've been there recently myself, same place. Before you smoked you could also say 'I've never smoked'. It was sort of an accomplishment. It was a boundary that you never crossed, until you did. Now you've decided to quit, vape and get back over that boundary but you can't; you never can go back to being that person who 'never smoked'. It's hard to grasp and causes the mind, at least mine, to say 'what next?', 'where do I go from here'.

It's a part of addiction. You have to make new boundaries, new life events. After a day, a week, a month, 6 months, a year. All something you've never done for quite awhile. 'I've not smoked for 2 weeks'; a massive accomplishment. Take them in stride, try not to look back and feel it would just be easier going back; it isn't because if you do one day you'll start to think of what could have been had you not gone back. You'll feel the same way as you did this day and have regret you didn't keep 'not smoking' longer..

Today I consider you victorious. You've gone and done something others have not been able to do. Your by no means special to most, but to the most important person in your life, you have succeeded and will continue to succeed.

Vape on my friend and never look back..

Priceless!

... I agree with this Message

 

[sda2010]

I have bought so many different attys/tanks/carts/clearomisers/etc to try, and recently got the Mini Vivi Nova Tank Clearomizer V3. It is by far the best option I have tried. I use the LR coil head with it (comes with it, and you can order more replacement coils) on an ego-C 1000 MAH battery. The juice seems to taste better, the vapor is good (50/50 VG/PG mix), and its simple. I was a marlboro red smoker, and this setup works well. I am now throwing away everything else and just using the mini vivi's. The only other thing I may try is the Vision Spinner battery, but I cannot find anyone with them in stock.

There are many places you can buy the Mini Vivi's, I just happened to buy from VapeHut (http://www.vapehut.com).