Does Dr. Oz have a feedback link somewhere? website? comments section? You should tell him your benefits story and see what kind (if any) response you get? !
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Does Dr. Oz have a feedback link somewhere? website? comments section? You should tell him your benefits story and see what kind (if any) response you get? !
Any credibility he has with anybody comes entirely from the fact that Oprah "created" him - and she has millions of loyal followers who feverishly believe she is akin to the modern-day incarnation of the savior. Dr. Fraud (which is how I refer to him) is nothing more than a snake oil salesman who is bought and paid for by the highest bidder. He pitches some new "health/diet miracle" product every week, the vast majority of which are ineffective scams. He may have been a good cardiac surgeon - if so, that's what he should have stuck with instead of becoming a corporate mouthpiece for whoever will fatten his wallet. I believe anything he has to say about vaping about as much as I believe anything he has to say about raspberry ketones, hoodia, green coffee bean extract, or any of the other diet scams he prostitutes himself for.
Yep Dr. Oz is right, i put anti-freeze from my pickup into my DIY. it gives it great flavor and chucks the vapor! what a DB.
He is stupid on the subject of ecigs. He didn't get it right. But I have to say, I don't quite get the mind-set of throwing out people on their ear, for being "stupid", when their opinion on something doesn't match my own.
Let's review "stupid":
1982 graduate of Harvard University.
1986 MD and MBA, University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine and Wharton Business School
Irving Professor of Cardiac Surgery at Columbia University, expertise Thoracic surgery.
Directs the Heart Assist Device program at New York-Presbyterian Medical Center
These are the best schools and hospitals the US has to offer.
I daresay, if it was our sons or daughters who graduated from these places, with those kind of of degrees, you'd be swinging around bragging rights.
He has an opinion, and we think it is erroneous. Stupid about some of his opinions (like all of us are) But stupid as a person? With that background? Less than 1-2% of people in the world can come out of places like that with those degrees.
C'mon. This is what makes some people look "agenda driven".
If you can actually toss out those accomplishments as if it were a cake walk (and I know few people who could GET thru the coursework of all those places if they were "stupid")
then really, it would be hard to call you a "fair minded" person.
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I thought this was an interesting article. (not just about Oz, but about some in the medical profession keeping an open mind.) His mentor and department chairman, Dr. Eric A. Rose, is one of the top heart-transplant surgeons in the world.
The Experiments of Dr. Oz - New York Times
On the basis of this article, it appears to me that the hospitals and doctors at Columbia-Presbyterian are very open minded to stuff that the medical profession in general is not open to........so I would say that Dr. Oz would be a person who would welcome a good conversation about the merits of ecigs. I doubt, however, that anyone who posted here, should be the person to sit down with him.
It just seems that more and more, there is less interest in actually conversing with people and talking to them then slinging insults and posting anti comments on websites.
I've SAT DOWN with my representatives, at their homes, a number of times. I talked to Dr. Bernie Siegal when I lived in New Haven. There seems to be a disconnect nowadays over actually communicating, as a person, with people? This is the compromising I have talke about so many times here. You have to connect with people. There is no other way.
Well you don't know til you try. Trying isn't posting comments on an internet site though. It's about asking the people you want to converse with for their time. And in a respectful way.
The Experiments of Dr. Oz - New York Times
On the basis of this article, it appears to me that the hospitals and doctors at Columbia-Presbyterian are very open minded to stuff that the medical profession in general is not open to........so I would say that Dr. Oz would be a person who would welcome a good conversation about the merits of ecigs. I doubt, however, that anyone who posted here, should be the person to sit down with him.
It just seems that more and more, there is less interest in actually conversing with people and talking to them then slinging insults and posting anti comments on websites.
I've SAT DOWN with my representatives, at their homes, a number of times. I talked to Dr. Bernie Siegal when I lived in New Haven. There seems to be a disconnect nowadays over actually communicating, as a person, with people? This is the compromising I have talke about so many times here. You have to connect with people. There is no other way.
Well you don't know til you try. Trying isn't posting comments on an internet site though. It's about asking the people you want to converse with for their time. And in a respectful way.
It's exactly why this is agenda driven. Maybe not by him but by his employer (ABC) who controls the content of his show. Of course he's not stupid. He knows what chemicals are in e-liquid and propylene glycol is used as an anti-freeze in water lines. It's also a preservative in food and tobacco so we've already been inhaling this anyway. He can say it contains anti-freeze and not have some moral conflict and also satisfy his TV network masters. It's like an onion. The more you peel it, the more it stinks. Big tobacco?? Government worried about their lost tax revenue?? All I know is that there has been deliberate half-truths, scare tactics and general false information about e-cigs in the media and someone has a reason to put it out there.
Yup, but the sad thing is too many folks take the 30 second soundbites for gospel
Like my Mother in law....who chose to try to start a debate with me in regards to my e-cig which my husband immediately came to my rescue over. Of course....she used to be a smoker who was able to quit cold turkey. She has a daughter that still smokes that had quit with the cigalikes but has gone back to smoking again...
So you are postulating that Dr. Oz may just need an education on electronic cigarettes?
That would, of course, imply that he gave his public opinion about them without actually learning about them.
Either way, something stinks.
lol I see my comment is still there on his blog
Ben B Brown · Top Commenter · Castle Age University
the so called DR. that wrote this should have done some real research first and not quoted a old study by the FDA that has been proven wrong
Ben B Brown · Top Commenter · Castle Age University
the so called DR. that wrote this should have done some real research first and not quoted a old study by the FDA that has been proven wrong
So then tell us how you really feel. Don't sugar coat it.Oh and this was the doc that said GMO's were ok to consume
Dr Oz is a talented doctor with an expertise in heart health and heart surgery.
His adventures into other areas have been met with mixed success. Here is an example of some of his bungling....
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Mehmet Oz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So as a Doctor and a celebrity, his elevated opinion of himself seems to have gotten in the way of his better judgement since he actively pimped a weight loss method that has few documented benefits and known side-effects. He got involved in a poorly conducted study of apple juice and overstated the dangers, he is a spokesperson for a BP outfit called RealAge.com. So, does his pockets being lined by BP affect his judgement when he discussed e-cigarettes? Maybe. I think his lack of public disclosure is suspect, but I am sure he would argue it had no effect on his opinion. Of course, disclosure is meant to permit everyone to weigh the facts of the opinion giver's sources of income.
He is certainly not stupid. I think he may get outside of his area of expertise and appear stupid at times. He is clearly not an expert on the subject e-cigarettes, only a celebrity with a loud megaphone. My issue with that is his use of his public perception as a health expert to push an anti-e-cigarette agenda.
Anyone that opposes electronic cigarettes is suspect, regardless of their reasons, backgrounds, intelligence, or educational credentials.
Painting with a wide brush is usually considered inappropriate, but this is a wide brush, and I will paint with it.
Painting with a wide brush is usually considered inappropriate, but this is a wide brush, and I will paint with it.
Well, as a proponent of e-cigarettes, you and I share that agenda. When someone spouts the FDAs mis-characterizations and outright falsehoods about them, I cannot help but to dig into finding the "why". Dr Oz has a clear agenda to support his moneymaker. Now that is some real and concrete evidence to refute someone regurgitating his anti-vaping opinions.
Weaken your enemies, demonstrate to them that opposing you is so costly they are robbed of the will to fight. Be magnanimous when they capitulate.
You may have to read the books to get that quote.
I did not notice it in the show, but it jumped off the page at me when I read it!
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