Didn't like vaping

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CamoGreg

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Yeah, I've tried to turn a couple folks on who just didn't care for it....gonna stick with analogs.

Then there has been a few who I would get started and loan a setup. Supply some juice and they said they enjoyed...but wouldn't put forth the effort to supply themselves.

Tell me: "Hey, I'm out of that juice." Did you try and order from the website I gave you? "no."
OK, cool. Can I have my batteries and charger back now?
 

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I firmly belief that the smoker has to really want to quit smoking for it to be successful.

Smoking is so easy, just light it up and smoke. Available at every convenience store or gas station within a few minutes drive time.

There's a lot of work involved with vaping: preparation of the juice carrying device, switching out depleted batteries for charged ones, sometimes finicky devices, newbie symptoms like coughing, sore throat, dry mouth, harsh vapor, etc. Unless you have a brick and mortar store nearby, you have to order juice and gear online and wait for the mailman to deliver. That takes planning ahead of time. One has to be diligent to charge spent batteries or he will have no power to vape.

Many newbies complain about the startup costs of vaping, which admittingly can be expensive to those on a budget. However, I always ask them how much did they spend the previous month on cigarettes. It's usually over one hundred dollars, and they had no problem spending that. I advise that once the batteries and a charger are purchased and a month's supply of juice and juice carrying devices are purchased, the following month's purchases can be limited to just replenishing more juice and carry devices. They can end up saving a lot more with vaping than if they continued to smoke.

All of that might seem to involve too much time, effort, or money for the undetermined smoker. For many people, smoking is perceived as a safe place for their mental well-being, a security blanket for times of stress or comfort. It can be hard to voluntarily give that security up.
 
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From what I've seen, it works when the person wants it to work.


I completely agree with this. Vaping is awesome. It feels good, it tastes good, and it's a perfect substitute to smoking cigarettes. But an individual that tries vaping in order to stop smoking cigarettes has to WANT to stop smoking cigarettes. I truly believe that most smokers want to stop smoking. I absolutely love smoking. I love getting that new pack, packing them down, and ripping the foil off the top to see twenty fresh cigarettes, knowing that now you're gonna be good for the whole day.....

But in the back of my mind I always knew that I had to quit. I wanted to quit, and I've tried in the past with varying success. But ultimately I always failed. If my willpower was strong enough I was able to beat the physical nicotine addiction in about a week. I no longer craved nicotine. But I ALWAYS missed smoking. That was the beginning to and end for me. When I wasn't smoking I felt an emptiness inside me. I had smoked for so long that I didn't know how to function without the physical act of smoking. I didn't know how to take a break at work. I would get done doing simple tasks like cleaning the house, and then stand there wondering "what do I do now"? As smokers we know that we begin and end EVERYTHING with a cigarette. Without them you become almost lost. Ultimately this is why I always ended up smoking again. Just to feel normal. Or at least what I perceived to be normal.

This being said, I knew that I had to find some way to quit. In the back of my mind I always wanted to quit, I just didn't want to give up my way of life. The life that I have enjoyed for so many years. After all, if I don't quit, I'm gonna end up in an early grave, right?

Now, some smokers consider themselves "lifers" They have decided that they are going to smoke until the day they croak, and that's all there is to it. These are the people that are almost impossible to convert to vaping. They don't want to quit. They have no desire to try or accept something new. They just want to smoke cigarettes, and thats it. I know many people like this.

Then there's the rest of us. Smokers that want to quit, have tried to quit many times, and haven't been successful in the long term. We are the type of people that are open to vaping, and once we try it, we really really embrace it. We see it as a way out. FINALLY, there is something else we can do to stop smoking cigarettes, yet continue our lives as we know them. We can continue our rituals. We don't have to give up something that makes us happy. We simply switch to something that doesn't destroy our body's or our health. I may have strayed a little off topic, but I felt this really needed to be said. Not everybody is going to take to vaping. But if your one of the 90% of smokers that wants to quit, but doesn't want to flip their entire life upside down and inside out, vaping is the answer.
 

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So far out of everyone that has asked me about and I let them try it say they aren't interested, but they sure are watching what I'm doing.
Most of the smokers I know are ones who grew up around it, parent's family all smoked. I think some people are just plain afraid of trying something new, or are afraid of not being able to quit the smokes.
The more mainstream vaping becomes, the more people will make the switch.
 

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Scoper50, you said a mouthful, and I totally agree. :thumbs:

Vaping helped me quit cigarettes in several ways. Let me explain:

I'd tried the nicotine patches and gum, and of course they failed. They delivered the nicotine that my body craved, but not at the times or strength that I needed them. The patches provide a sustained release of nicotine over a long period of time; that didn't help me when I had a strong urge for a cigarette. With vaping, I can vape harder and more frequently to get over that cigarette craving.

You can always chew more of the nicotine gum, but I got side effects from chewing too much gum or too much at one time: hiccups. Man, I hated getting those. And sometimes it gave me nausea or upset stomach. Again, vaping is a better and more effecient solution.

As Scoper pointed out so well, vaping replicates the hand-to-mouth behavior that has been ingrained into our personality to the point it is a part of who we are. Take that part away, and we are lost. We lose a part of what is comforting to us.

Vaping also allows us to inhale warm vapor in place of cigarette smoke, for that satisfying experience of our lungs filled with smoke, and blowing out plumes. I always missed this part when trying to quit, and deep breathing got me nowhere.

So vaping replaces much of what we might miss from quitting cigarettes. Having said that, vaping is work. Not near as easy as lighting up a stinky. But if the determination and will power is there, it WILL get the job done.
 

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Two or three years ago I bought a rechargeable kit at a truck stop. I got the strong tobacco flavor and hated it. Didn't even make it through the second of the five included carts. Lack of knowledge and a true desire to quit cigs doomed me! This time I did plenty of research and I'm thrilled with the results.

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You know, it's not just wanting to quit cigarettes. God knows I'd tried. Patches, gum, lozenges, Chantix, juggling, you name it. Then I picked up a Blu at Walgreens and that was that.

I'm it doesn't work for everyone, but there's something about getting your nicotine and still puffing on something that can push you right over that edge of maybe being ready to quit, and right into "crap, I quit and I wasn't even trying." I've just seen too many people try over and over to quit, only to finally find success with e-cigarettes. If it was just a matter of wanting to quit, they'd have already done it.
 

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I firmly belief that the smoker has to really want to quit smoking for it to be successful.
Absolutely so. This is the core of the matter, the desire to get off cigarettes. And even though plenty of reasons exists to do so, many just put it out of mind until one day per chance some light comes on and a realization materializes that they need to stop, and have the willingness to look around for solutions.

I have extolled virtually all the dangers of smoking and benefits of vaping to one of my affiliates ... the increased chances of heart failures and cancers, the exorbitant sums spent of tobacco, etc. ... and it's like talking to a brick wall.

The only people I have ever been able to interest were those who were sincerely looking to quit. That demand has to be there.
 

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Myself and a friend switched at the same time, not a bother, but I bought a kanger twist kit for my sister, that she used for two days before going back on the stinkies. You still need a bit of willpower to escape the hold the smokes have on you, it's easy for most I find, but not for everyone, unfortunately.
 

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The thing is if you're trying to help someone step up to ecigs, you need to educated them a little first. Inform them not to inhale "cigarette style," for instance, and to start small and hold the vapor in their mouth for at least a second before inhaling. Put a new tip on your rig and let them try it out. The main probably is that folks will pick up a cheap disposable ecig, not know how to use it, and be immediately turned off. Helping them and letting them try it correctly makes the world of difference.
 

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I firmly belief that the smoker has to really want to quit smoking for it to be successful.

Nowadays, I don't look to introduce vaping to those I know who smoke analogs. Most people, however, are curious enough to talk about it; if the conversation goes beyond 5 minutes, then I'll take the time to get really in-depth about it.
 

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I did not like vaping three years ago when I first tried it. I'd been given a 510 set and some RY4. I didn't hate it, but I couldn't get enough out of it to satisfy me at all. I stepped up to ego batteries and tried again, still using 510 atomizers under the cone and those funny little carts full of liquid. Again, I didn't like it.

Fast forward to Vapercon in Richmond, Virgina this past fall. I got dragged there by my vaping best friend who hasn't smoked for three years now. I saw a ridiculous amount of new goods available. Mind you, i'd looked online in the past but ...it seems that in the past year, serious progress has been made. So, I picked up an Ego Twist kit that came with a few different clearos to try out and also took home various samples of juice along with some that I bought. Wow. I DO like vaping now. I've got vivi novas, T3, MT3, Ce4s and a rebuildable (haven't tackled that one yet). There's a juice army on my desk and in drawers.

It wasn't that I didn't want to quit smoking three years ago. I really have wanted away from that beast for years. But, nothing was 'doing it' for me. I guess i'm fussy. My suggestion to anyone struggling..if they really want it to work, is to try different flavors even if you don't think they're something you'd normally be interested in AND, if a certain carto/clearo/tank isn't working for you...try something else.
 

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... it's not just wanting to quit cigarettes. God knows I'd tried. Patches, gum, lozenges, Chantix, juggling, you name it. Then I picked up a Blu at Walgreens...
but there's something...that can push you right over that edge of maybe being ready to quit, and right into "crap, I quit and I wasn't even trying.".
Hello World said:
...the core of the matter, the desire to get off cigarettes. And even though plenty of reasons exists to do so, many just put it out of mind until one day per chance some light comes on and a realization materializes that they need to stop, and have the willingness to look around for solutions.
The above phrases ring true to my ears and so close to my heart. Just 10 months ago I was dealing with my mother who was about to die from terminal, metastatic cancer of the liver. It had taken over 80% of her liver according to the doctors. I was close to my mother, she was also a close friend.

My father had passed years before and I had somehow dealt with his death from a stroke reasonably well. But now with my mother about to die, this was more difficult somehow. I mean, this was the woman who actually brought me into this world. I may not have showed it outwardly, but inwardly I was now being forced to face my own mortality like I had never had to before. My motherwas dying from cancer...and I could suffer the same fate, too, if I continued to smoke.

Amazing how things happen by coincidence. I'm standing, waiting in line at a convenience store or gas station, and I see an N-Joy disposable e-cigarette on the counter. I actually believe that it was my first time seeing an e-cig. Curiosity got the best of me and I impulsively grabbed one. I think to myself, "Let me try one of these, it's only a few bucks. This might work."

I used that N-Joy and another one that I bought soon after, on a long drive out-of-town and back to visit with my mother in the hospital who was in her final few days on earth. I found that I didn't have to smoke in my car with the e-cig, and therefore not expose my teenage kids to second hand smoke. As soon as I got home I got on the computer and did some research, and thankfully found ECF.

These two events in my life; the death of my mother to cancer and how it forced me to revisit my own mortality, and finding realizing that electronic cigarettes could actually help me to quit tobacco, were in hindsight the two biggest events of my life last year. Without one or the other, I might still be smoking the stinkies.
 
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