Didn't think I'd notice a difference in wire, but I do...

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Bonskibon

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Been using SS316L for months and thought I'd go back to kanthal for a couple of builds but the flavor just wasn't there. I've heard many say they don't taste a difference so thought I wouldn't either, but I did notice and needless to say went back to SS and have my flavor back. Does anyone else notice a difference in wires? Which wire do you like best?
 

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I switched to ss 316l after trying it. I finally quit experimenting with other wires because I always went back to ss within a day or two. I was recently gifted a Fireluke and took me a couple of days to get used to the kanthal drop in coil. Flavor is good but I'll be using ss in the rba. So yeah, I'm a ss junkie, too.
 

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funny...i wound a twisted kanthal coil on a screwdriver today as i'm home sick off work and most of my vape gear is there (spend more time at work than at home sadly). been using 316L for the last month. kind of missing TC on this build but am enjoying the flavour just fine.
 

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... Does anyone else notice a difference in wires? Which wire do you like best?

I do.

When RTA's first started to hit the market, I was quick to Jump on them. But they all tasted like Crap.

I'd read thread after thread about Building Coils and must have tried about 3 Dozen different types of Gauges/Coils Sizes/Wick Materials in a handful of RTA's. It all tasted like Metallic Garbage. Finally just gave up.

Then the SubTank Mini hit and this Board Exploded with STM Threads. Bugged the Hell Out of me. How could there be Sooo Maaany threads about how great the STM was?

Then I got thinking...

What was the One Common Denominator in all my Garbage Tasting Builds? Kanthal.
And what was the Wire in my beloved CE2's? NiChrome 80.
Could it possibly that Simple?

So I found a place online that sold NiChrome Wire. And went back to one of my RTA's and built it with NiChrome. The Difference was like Night n' Day. And even my Worst tasting RTA was Orders of Magnitude better then my best hitting CE2.

All that Time it was the Kanthal. LOL.

Today I mainly use 316/316L SS. Because it is a works better in Single Coil RDA's on a Single Batter Mech Squonker. But use a Lot of NiChrome 80 in my RTA's.

So Yeah... I can Totally Relate when people say that they like one Wire Better than another.
 

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I've been winding SS316L coils for several years now. I haven't even wound a Kanthal coil since I started SS. Stainless seems to last longer even if you dry burn during a wick change.

Heat is heat, IMO. Wicking seriously affects flavor. I've found that my best flavor is with Rayon and Rayon provides longer wick life. It's not scorched or burned when I change it, unlike cotton.

Cotton was fine until I discovered that a really tight Rayon wick even beats Koh Gen Do. If Rayon squeaks a little when you twist it into the coil, the size is just right if twisting it doesn't bend the coil. If it doesn't squeak, it may be too small to wick properly, since Rayon shrinks when juiced up.
 
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My impulse buy of rayon is still unopened and in a cabinet.

Give it a try. Roll it between your fingers and size it so that you have to twist it to get it through the coil. The winds of the coil will propel it through as you twist. It shrinks a little after you install it and juice it up, so it has to be tight at first.
 
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I get some taste with kanthal, but more with ss it seems. I use the same gauge and wraps whether I'm using ss or kanthal.
Same gauge wire with same number of wraps on the same diameter affects flavor because of the change in build resistance. It takes about twice the power with lower resistance SS to get the same heat flux as it would with Kanthal A1.

It's another benefit of TC vaping. Once you know the heat flux you like, set the temperature to achieve that and let the mod regulate power to keep it there (or thereabouts). It's also why you should use TC if you're using stainless.
 

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I gave rayon a go months ago, shop gave me a few inches to try. Did it's job well, but I didn't find it better than KGD and KGD is easier to work with.
@Eskie are you still using the egyptian?

What I found through back and forth comparisons is that flavor is noticeably better and wick life is extended by several days to a week. I used to change KGD wicks every 3 or 4 days. With Rayon I change it once a week to 10 days and the wick has no burned spots under the coil. If you wash it to get the juice discoloration off it looks like new, except for some light gray tint where the coil covered the wick.

I still go back and forth for comparison, but the more I use Rayon the more I realize that it's a better wicking material.
 

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Same gauge wire with same number of wraps on the same diameter affects flavor because of the change in build resistance. It takes about twice the power with lower resistance SS to get the same heat flux as it would with Kanthal A1.

It's another benefit of TC vaping. Once you know the heat flux you like, set the temperature to achieve that and let the mod regulate power to keep it there (or thereabouts). It's also why you should use TC if you're using stainless.

I don't use TC but I build to the heat flux for my mechanical. I like the way SS will increase its resistance when heated. I have thought of it as a quasi TC for mechanicals.
 

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Same gauge wire with same number of wraps on the same diameter affects flavor because of the change in build resistance. It takes about twice the power with lower resistance SS to get the same heat flux as it would with Kanthal A1.

Not what I find. I use 12watts for both types of build and heat flux is nearly the same.
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