Though I do use TC when using SS but set it at 12watts heat up, but could just as well use wattage mode and get the same results.
Didn't think I'd notice a difference in wire, but I do...
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I like using it because I know I'm staying in the "safe zone" with temperature. I vape 370F which feels no different than if I was to use wattage mode.
It was because of this thread New studies find carcinogens in vg and pg at high temps, even in tootle puffers that I started using ss to begin with.
Well I guess I didn't understand what you meant which wouldn't be that hard for me. Still learning.Target resistances are different.
I follow that thread off and on and from what I've gathered my risk factor is very low. I like my vape simple. At one time vaping was very frustrating for me and it was very hard to plow thru it and keep trying to find my style/sweet spot. Just too easy to fall off the wagon.
I am. Still weird to work with, and fragile when passing through the coil, but otherwise wicks just fine. I certainly waste more trying to pull off just the right amount and keeping it from separating as I thread it than I do with an organic cotton pad, but it's good for now.
Heh. Me, too! The day I stop learning is the day I move to Pine Crest Cemetery.Well I guess I didn't understand what you meant which wouldn't be that hard for me. Still learning.
If you set all values to the same numbers and change only the wire material, you'll see what I was getting at.
I can definitely tell the difference between Kanthal and SS especially with a fresh coil. I do think that as a Kanthal coil is used it's "taste" diminishes. I think it has something to do with the manufacturing of the Kanthal and surface impurities. Maybe machine oils on it or something. It does go away after some time, but why go though that when SS starts off clean and stays that way.
You really don't have to care about resistance with a regulated mod. Similar coil mass, near identical coil composition and heat flux, who cares about resistance?Target resistances are different.
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Resistance does matter when calculating the heat capacity, which tells us where we need to set the power to get the heat flux that we want. A higher resistance metal heats more quickly. Two coils can be identical in appearance, diameter, volume, length of wire, wrap direction, ad infinitum. But if the material of the wires have different resistances, their heat capacities will be different and so will the power needed to increase their temperature.
@CMD-Ky has a good observation regarding Stainless changing resistance with temperature. Devices (or mech users) that can recognize that change and adjust power accordingly save energy and save charge life.
So as not to derail the thread with physics discussion--suffice it to say that SS tastes different because it is.
26ga 2.5mm, a 1 ohm k1 and a 0.5 ohm ss316l coil require a 1 watt one difference for the same ideal heat flux. Sure, the kanthal coil has a somewhat lower heat capacity, but nothing extreme. We're not talking anything like double the wattage needed (a statement one hears often, and which is clearly based on flawed understanding), and I'll believe that any recent ex-smoker is enough of a super taster to actually notice a definite difference (due to initial resistance, in a double blind test) when I grow wings.Super-tasters care!
Resistance does matter when calculating the heat capacity, which tells us where we need to set the power to get the heat flux that we want. A higher resistance metal heats more quickly. Two coils can be identical in appearance, diameter, volume, length of wire, wrap direction, ad infinitum. But if the material of the wires have different resistances, their heat capacities will be different and so will the power needed to increase their temperature.
@CMD-Ky has a good observation regarding Stainless changing resistance with temperature. Devices (or mech users) that can recognize that change and adjust power accordingly save energy and save charge life.
So as not to derail the thread with physics discussion--suffice it to say that SS tastes different because it is.
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FWIW, I think that coil wrap count and coil size affect flavor and vapor directly. The more surface area of the wick that's touching the coil, the more juice gets vaporized as long as the right heat's there. Of course there's a balance point between heat, contact, and air flow, but there's a sweet spot somewhere.
As I stated in another thread the magic number of wraps seems to be 7.
In fact I am pretty sure it is written in some ancient book:
"First shalt thou take out the Holy Build Deck. Then, shalt thou wrap to seven, no more, no less. Seven shall be the number thou shalt wrap, and the number of the wrapping shall be seven. Eight shalt thou not wrap, nor either wrap thou six, excepting that thou then proceed to seven. Nine is right out! Once the number seven, being the seventh number, be reached, then vapest thou thy Holy Vape of Antioch."
We're both right.
The OP remarked that she tasted a difference between the two metals and noted that the two coils involved were the same gauge and the same number of wraps. I surmised that the diameter was constant too. In that case, the wattage required does nearly double.
You correctly point out that halving the resistance of the coil by using stainless achieves the same heat flux.
Both interpretation of Ohm's Law are correct.
That's my point, double the wattage is not needed (or desired). You'll want different voltages (half the voltage with the ss coil), but not wattage. At the same wattage (but very different voltages) the heat flux will be nearly identical.
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Sorry to hear. What would you like your tombstone to say?
Seriously, glad I could bring a smile to some faces today.
I can taste the difference between wires, at least I think I can.
Never done a blind comparison between wires so it could be all in my noggin.
Ni makes everything taste like a tin can & wet cow.
Ti gives me a really weird strong metallic lingering aftertaste, more like copper with a touch of old tennis shoe mixed in.
NiCr tastes like a cross between metallic & new cardboard with a smidgen of rust to me.
SS is not bad, first few vapes always has an odd muted dusty taste. After that pretty good.
I like kanthal, single wire is great, 2 strands twisted is by far my favorite.
Never done a blind comparison between wires so it could be all in my noggin.
Ni makes everything taste like a tin can & wet cow.
Ti gives me a really weird strong metallic lingering aftertaste, more like copper with a touch of old tennis shoe mixed in.
NiCr tastes like a cross between metallic & new cardboard with a smidgen of rust to me.
SS is not bad, first few vapes always has an odd muted dusty taste. After that pretty good.
I like kanthal, single wire is great, 2 strands twisted is by far my favorite.
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