That's good news for sure. I have only (1) 22mm and would like to get some more, within reason of course.
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It is a little loose on the smallest air hole for me and I think for you 52anddone. We have to close that hole halfway or even to 1/3 for a decent MTL. It would have been nice to have a smaller air hole because that halfway settings tends to move when you're on the go.
Wish list for the new Siren 22mm:
Take notes Digiflavor if you're reading this
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1- One more air hole, maybe two. One should be half of the smallest one, and one should be 1/3.
2- A detachable build deck with proper sealing.
3- A little more space between the glass and the chamber on the 22mm, bubbles keep build up and I don't like playing the bubble game.
4- Maybe some airflow inserts like the kayfun V5 if they're generous.
5- Shorter 510 connection, the Siren’s 510 is rather long.
6- A more coarse threading for the top cap, it takes a while for the threads to catch.
The Siren is a good tank, add those suggestions and I think it would be THE best mtl tank.
Take notes Digiflavor if you're reading this
.1- One more air hole, maybe two. One should be half of the smallest one, and one should be 1/3.
2- A detachable build deck with proper sealing.
3- A little more space between the glass and the chamber on the 22mm, bubbles keep build up and I don't like playing the bubble game.
4- Maybe some airflow inserts like the kayfun V5 if they're generous.
5- Shorter 510 connection, the Siren’s 510 is rather long.
6- A more coarse threading for the top cap, it takes a while for the threads to catch.
The Siren is a good tank, add those suggestions and I think it would be THE best mtl tank.
I am so happy to know this!! Keep us informed! I want more 22 Sirens!
J.C. is the best bargain finder I've ever known. Her google fingers are magic. She'll find us a great deal!
I agree 100% with you hawk. I didn't realize that there were so many of us Tight MTL'ers around. For so long I have been feeling like the "Lone Ranger", then found JW, and now you. That's 3 of us
, but I find the statement "a Really Loose MTL" just plain wrong (for this type of tank that is). Yup, ya got my style of draw down pretty good hawk. It's been difficult finding a tank of this type that I could even work with, then comes the Siren (all because I watched that PBusardo video on it). And they quit making the little beauty. Amazing !!
I got an email also JC. That last sentence
Yes, I got an email from FogitUp today too. The money hasn't made its way into my bank account yet, but I imagine it will overnight or tomorrow. I think they are an ethical vendor.
Wish list for the new Siren 22mm:
Take notes Digiflavor if you're reading this
1- One more air hole, maybe two. One should be half of the smallest one, and one should be 1/3.
2- A detachable build deck with proper sealing.
3- A little more space between the glass and the chamber on the 22mm, bubbles keep build up and I don't like playing the bubble game.
4- Maybe some airflow inserts like the Kayfun V5 if they're generous.
5- Shorter 510 connection, the Siren’s 510 is rather long.
6- A more coarse threading for the top cap, it takes a while for the threads to catch.
The Siren is a good tank, add those suggestions and I think it would be THE best mtl tank.
I agree, with the addition to #3 of, also the 25mm has that same problem.
I agree 100% with you hawk. I didn't realize that there were so many of us Tight MTL'ers around. For so long I have been feeling like the "Lone Ranger", then found JW, and now you. That's 3 of us
I just wonder...Phil B. is such a huge fan of the Siren...do you suppose...the new version of the Siren...just might be branded in some way by Phil?
Ever since I first saw Phil's review of the Siren, every other review I've seen him do has included a mention of the Siren. It's like he compares every other tank/RTA/whatever to the Siren. Even when he's reviewing a new mod, he is sure to have a Siren as a topper for it, and he is sure to mention the Siren.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
They must be fast fingers also, with my 2 finger typing skills going at full speed, by the time I get the search quarry typed in, everybody's "Out of Stock".
They must be fast fingers also, with my 2 finger typing skills going at full speed, by the time I get the search quarry typed in, everybody's "Out of Stock".
Me too!!
YES, in fact he does compare MTL tanks he reviews to the Siren, in his review of the Cthulhu MTL he did just that. I've heard him say that the Siren is his MTL tank of choice when not reviewing other tanks for the videos.
It's pretty amazing, how often he mentions the Siren. I think it's worthy of his praise, of course, but I think it's possible he will have a role in the branding or marketing of the Siren v2?
That would be a good thing I think. If I remember correctly, he likes a 2mm air hole also, as he commented that (1) additional hole smaller than the smallest would have been perfect.
That thought did cross my mind. He did mention in the 2016 wrap video that he would like to have a tank with his ideas and design concepts like Rip Trippers, and guess who makes the Pharaoh RTA and RDA for Rip, it's digiflavor.
Also I think in a recent video he said that he has been working with Dimitri on something. Could that be it?
I've always hated conspiracy theories and reading too much between the lines, see what you made me do JW.
That thought did cross my mind. He did mention in the 2016 wrap video that he would like to have a tank with his ideas and design concepts like Rip Trippers, and guess who makes the Pharaoh RTA and RDA for Rip, it's digiflavor.
Also I think in a recent video he said that he has been working with Dimitri on something. Could that be it?
I've always hated conspiracy theories and reading too much between the lines, see what you made me do JW.
I know, I know. It could be just a conspiracy theory, but those are fun! I really have thought about that when seeing Busardo's videos, though. I didn't know he had made comments about the Rip Tripper's Pharoah or hinted that Dimitri is working on something. Now, I am believing in the possibility of a P.B. Siren more than ever!!!
You're a good persuader, Dark!
I had visitors over the weekend so haven`t checked in...so many pages...
The Fuji came last week and I wasn`t particularly impressed.
Ian already said the airflow is huge, I must agree..it is HUGE.
You can even get a draw with all the airflow rings closed ! Too airy for me.
The grub screws to catch the wires were another annoyance. (one was faulty OOTB - just kept turning, I had spares but even so..)
This is really made for thicker wire/coils - I had difficulty easily catching my 28g wire - a nuisance.
The wick slots/holes are still remarkably big - IMO - way too big.
You need something like a 4 or 5mm I.D. coil to get enough wick in without having to resort to tricks.
Also leaked directly out of the 510 pin, another shortcoming, the factory uses those hard plastic isolators, they need to use silicone or rubber for a proper seal. (This was my fault for not getting enough wick in at first of course - it didn`t just leak for no reason)
Result ? Personally I didn`t like it, it annoyed me sufficiently and early enough to get the boot.
Would likely be OK for a direct lung inhaler with thicker coils.
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So there`s a revised Siren coming allegedly ?!
If this is a revision I hope they`ve made some important changes that are necessary for making a re-run really worthwhile.
The Fuji came last week and I wasn`t particularly impressed.
Ian already said the airflow is huge, I must agree..it is HUGE.
You can even get a draw with all the airflow rings closed ! Too airy for me.
The grub screws to catch the wires were another annoyance. (one was faulty OOTB - just kept turning, I had spares but even so..)
This is really made for thicker wire/coils - I had difficulty easily catching my 28g wire - a nuisance.
The wick slots/holes are still remarkably big - IMO - way too big.
You need something like a 4 or 5mm I.D. coil to get enough wick in without having to resort to tricks.
Also leaked directly out of the 510 pin, another shortcoming, the factory uses those hard plastic isolators, they need to use silicone or rubber for a proper seal. (This was my fault for not getting enough wick in at first of course - it didn`t just leak for no reason)
Result ? Personally I didn`t like it, it annoyed me sufficiently and early enough to get the boot.
Would likely be OK for a direct lung inhaler with thicker coils.
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So there`s a revised Siren coming allegedly ?!
If this is a revision I hope they`ve made some important changes that are necessary for making a re-run really worthwhile.
You basically picked up on all the points that bothered me too:
With some time behind be, I would suggest that reducing the size of the wick holes would help everyone - with hindsight this would be at the top of the wishlist for a revision.
It`s easier to thin out a thick wick slightly to fit, than it is to add extra beneath the existing wick - too fiddly for my eyes...and a nice way for the chinese designers to fuel my temper
If they are preparing a v2 - they haven`t gone about it very well simply announcing the death of the design, or making it appear so by their less than forthcoming discussion about it, then a vague reference to it being stopped.
They are still advertised on the Digiflavor website as "NEW" !
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Overall, I`d say the Siren is a decent device, although I would like to see a couple of changes
1. The 510 pin protrudes a little too much when screwed in fully (for certain devices)
2. The gap between the chamber and glass needs to be slightly larger (for thicker juices)
3. The top cap is too finely threaded and would be better threaded around the central airtube (ie: Toptank style)
4. Would prefer a flat top cap to allow a wider range of 3rd party drip tips to be used (appearance)
5. One smaller airhole for a greater range of airflow amounts (cater for tighter m2l users)
I`ve just ordered my third so will be slighly miffed if an improved V2 appears next month
Wish list for the new Siren 22mm:
Take notes Digiflavor if you're reading this
1- One more air hole, maybe two. One should be half of the smallest one, and one should be 1/3.
2- A detachable build deck with proper sealing.
3- A little more space between the glass and the chamber on the 22mm, bubbles keep build up and I don't like playing the bubble game.
4- Maybe some airflow inserts like the Kayfun V5 if they're generous.
5- Shorter 510 connection, the Siren’s 510 is rather long.
6- A more coarse threading for the top cap, it takes a while for the threads to catch.
The Siren is a good tank, add those suggestions and I think it would be THE best mtl tank.
With some time behind be, I would suggest that reducing the size of the wick holes would help everyone - with hindsight this would be at the top of the wishlist for a revision.
It`s easier to thin out a thick wick slightly to fit, than it is to add extra beneath the existing wick - too fiddly for my eyes...and a nice way for the chinese designers to fuel my temper
If they are preparing a v2 - they haven`t gone about it very well simply announcing the death of the design, or making it appear so by their less than forthcoming discussion about it, then a vague reference to it being stopped.
They are still advertised on the Digiflavor website as "NEW" !
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An extra "oil film" diffuser with 3 holes could have gone some way towards helping those users who wanted a much tighter draw.
A simpler and likely cheaper fix.
I want a rebate on any new version as well, due to the design faults in the Beta version
A simpler and likely cheaper fix.
I want a rebate on any new version as well, due to the design faults in the Beta version
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