Disappointed again...

[phalaeo]

I'm about a month and change into using ecigs. I've allowed myself to try a few different setups to see which one I like best, as I heard that PVs are highly subjective.

My problem is I'm not getting anywhere near the TH that it seems like I should. I've made sure I'm using stuff properly, I seem to be using the right battery power/ohm combo. I keep my batteries charged. All juice is 80PG/20VG, and I range from 18mg juice down to 6 (I know that the less nic you get, the smaller the TH is). juice is coming from reputable vendors who seem popular on this forum (Vermillion River, Highbrow, Crystal Clear Vapes)

When I research new hardware to try out, I'm seeing comments that say "massive TH!" and "awesome Throat hit!!1!", I buy the product and.... nothing.

I used to smoke Marlboro Red 100s. I know it may not be possible to recreate as strong a TH as you would find in that type of full flavour cig, but the TH I'm getting is like smoking a Marlboro Ultra Light. I can't imagine someone calling an ultra light "massive TH". I had a really bad craving for an analog yesterday, which hasn't happened since I quit.

Am I looking for the impossible, or am I doing something wrong?

This is what I'm working with right now:

• 2 eGo Twists
• 2 eGo 3.7V
• Dual Coil Smok Cartos
• Resurrector Jr. Cartos (1.8 ohm, I think)
• 1 knockoff Vivi Nova tank (didn't know it was a knockoff when I got it )
• 1 genuine Vivi Nova jr. (I have in the 1.8 ohm head right now- comes also with 2.4 and 2.8 heads)

(The closest I can get to any kind of TH is with the Resurrector Jrs. & one of the twists. I don't understand why the tanks suck so much for me)

 

[Kopfstimmen]

I know you weren't a menthol smoker, but you can always try that. You might also try 70/30. I know more VG suppresses throat hit, but then again, "seeing is believing". Could be your brain is tricking you into thinking you aren't getting anything. I know that I tried 80/20, and I found it unsatisfying, since I couldn't see much vapor.

 

[chimsweep]

I am looking for the link I found interesting. Tips for vaping vs smoking. It's totally different and when I followed the instructions..wow. I had to semi go back to my original sequence. Let me see if I can find it.

Found it...this maybe old news for you, but I didn't read it when I started and found some very interesting takes. Hope this helps you and if not keep looking for that answer. You are on the right path.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...9-inhalation-technique-ecig-vs-cigarette.html

 

[tenshi]

Phalaeo, you didn't mention what type of ejuices you use... Perhaps try ones made of PG since PG is known to give a better TH? If you get an RBA, you can adjust the airhole away from the wick and get a great TH. Best of luck, don't give up please. We're all here to support you. ((Hugs))

 

[pjim]

PUROS NATURALES 60ml Try this it will solve your problem I think.

 

[jazon1]

you might want to get yourself into a stronger device ego's just cant push out the amps,try a vamo,zmax,provari and some 3.0 ohms cartos or other tank at 5.0-5.5 volts,
vivi's are great if you wash them out every day and dump like the last 10% of each tank but if you dont the wicks act as filters and filter out all the good stuff and give you a weaker vape.
you can also try some flavors that are known to have a stronger TH like juice with pineapple,cinnamon,menthol or get yourself a small bottle of "tart"flavoring and add a few drops to your bottles of premade stuff, some people also use a drop or two of grain alcohol in there mix to ad TH personally i have never tried this.

 

[TigerLadyTX]

I have been stinky free for just over a year now, and there are still times that I crave a smoke like no ones business. The cravings do not generally last beyond a minute or two, but I still have them. There is no magic wand that you can wave to make them vanish. You just have to bull through them. Over time, they do become less intense and less frequent. TBH, I do not think they ever go completely away. Will power is necessary in conjunction with reliable equipment and juice.

~Tiger

 

[cardenio]

It took, finding only organic juice vendors, switching to provari's, and using only reputable cartomisers and RBA's for me to recieve the "crazy throat hit". I suggest you go over to a guy on this forums page named "Baditude" and look at his carto tank filling thread. If you fill the carto and tank the way he says you should get a better vape than anything you've described so far.. Last bit of advice would definitely try a high PG content juice and the urges really do just drop off after month 4 or 5.. anywhere in that range. Easy to stay away once you have your own crazy setup to come home to

 

[cardenio]

you might want to get yourself into a stronger device ego's just cant push out the amps,try a vamo,zmax,provari and some 3.0 ohms cartos or other tank at 5.0-5.5 volts,
vivi's are great if you wash them out every day and dump like the last 10% of each tank but if you dont the wicks act as filters and filter out all the good stuff and give you a weaker vape.
you can also try some flavors that are known to have a stronger TH like juice with pineapple,cinnamon,menthol or get yourself a small bottle of "tart"flavoring and add a few drops to your bottles of premade stuff, some people also use a drop or two of grain alcohol in there mix to ad TH personally i have never tried this.

I specifically remember the jump from my Ego- C Twist to a Zmax, what a rush! (dont get a zmax tho lol better options)

 

[Thompson]

The addition of some PGA can increase throat hit, but with liquids at that high of PG they may become quite thin.

 

[DiNet]

Massive TH for me is 36mg nic., and I was PaD smoker of light cigs... so yeah, 18mg should be more than enough for TH... I'm using 18mg nic. anyway, and I'm getting used to its TH actually. Same vendor different flavors = different TH.
I couldn't vape serendipity from HHV at start, it was destroying my throat at 18mg... steeped and it got less TH for me now, or maybe I got used to it.
Was using Vivi for a month, shifted to dripping and vivi now doesn't deliver same TH from same juice...
Morning to noon I feel strong TH, noon to evening mediocre, evening-night I don't get any... I suddenly think my juices are non-nic :/

I found out, for myself, I'd rather stock with different flavors vs different nic. levels. Some bakery, like B&W Cookie from AiV, deliver big TH at same 18mg nic. for me.

 

[phalaeo]

Thank you for all the answers-- in response to what juices I'm using, it's right there in the OP. 80PG/20PG.

I'm willing to buy a Provari if it's as good as everyone says it is, but I've literally spent about $300 in the past month. I kind of want any purchase I make next to be a darn good one, especially with how expensive I remember the provaris being. I'll put up a second thread asking for suggestions on where to get one, etc.

Thanks also for your support- I'm definitely not going back to analogs, but I know from what I'm reading that there are better options out there than what I've got so I guess I just have to keep chugging through the beginner's stage...

 

[Couture]

I had the same issue when I started. Now I started with 808's. The eGo gave me better statisfaction and the 2.4 or 2.8 head for sure was better then the 1.8 head.
Now the draw method plays a lot into this as well. If I hit any device like I did an analog I get squat for TH if I do a long slow draw my TH is much better.
HTH

 

[Couture]

oh and don't inhale strait to the lungs gather the vape in the mouth then inhale.

 

[house mouse]

Have you tried any of the hot cinnamon flavors? They seem to have an extra kick to them and might be what you need. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Cinnabomb from Vapor Bomb. But that flavor along with their fire and ice (which is cinnabomb with menthol) cemented my staying off analogs when I first started.

 

[Thrasher]

i would venture some of it is the dual coils on the EGO wimping out. while they will work, they just dont have the ummph needed to constantly fire a dual coil LR correctly.

 

[Exile]

Like stated above dual coils dont work well with Ego Twist. Low resistance single coils will give you more throat hit, and vapor. Throw a single coil low resistance cartomizer (2ohm) on there, fill it with some higher 24mg tobacco juice (80/20-70/30 ), and it should be giving you all the throat hit you want...

 

[r77r7r]

Before you go buying new stuff- I second the idea of at least checking the thread out on the Inhalation Technique.

 

[hvac999]

I can not use tanks for that same reason. I HAVE to have big TH or I am unsatisfied. I have to use carto's or I can't get a proper TH. I did have to get a vv Gripper that goes to 6v to get it sometimes, but there is no reason a twist won't do it on most carto's. I use 80/20 but also use 36mg juice to get mine. I am not saying you have to go all the way to 36mg but 18 or 24mg should do it.

 

[dguer3rd]

One thing i found is keeping alot of different kinds of juice and different delivery devices on hand helps me. Its like my body adjusts to each juice or atty type and it just stops cutting it. Just like right now, im dripping 24mg ry-4 into a 2ohm atty w/ my twist cranked to 4.8 and its not doin much. So, i think im gunna fill me a 1.75ohm carto tank with some 36mg watermellon. That should do it.