The more mainstream ecig's get, the more this is going to happen until eventually someone gets sued. That's why practically everything comes with an infinite amount of warnings and directions, so that the distributor isn't liable. So everyone is saying that greyg00se19 should take it as a lesson learned, I also think that manufacturers too should take this as a lesson and take the time to make one document that would take care of this from happening.
Disaster strikes with my new GLV2... pics included..
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"Not bashing him. I know he is upset and had the stuffing scared out of him. I just don't believe GLV is to blame for his ignorance. And by Ignorance i just mean by not reading or asking questions. I'm by no means saying the OP is stupid"
see my above post.
GLV did not include a battery, but a battery charging device for a CR123 battery.. nowhere was it listed in the instructions to use a protected battery.
sorry for my ignorance and not asking even more questions. I wish i had as much time as you.
"Not bashing him. I know he is upset and had the stuffing scared out of him. I just don't believe GLV is to blame for his ignorance. And by Ignorance i just mean by not reading or asking questions. I'm by no means saying the OP is stupid"
see my above post.
GLV did not include a battery, but a battery charging device for a CR123 battery.. nowhere was it listed in the instructions to use a protected battery.
sorry for my ignorance and not asking even more questions. I wish i had as much time as you.
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Or one batt over charging the other. Or one batt having more current drawn than the other etc... I built electric cars in the early nineties for a living(just out of high school). You would not BELIEVE how many ways I've seen, and experienced batt destruction, or harm to the user(me). lol I once grabed a 146v 5amp batt pack from both sides and ended up completing a short circuit w/ my hands. Man did that hurt and scare the crud out of me.
I remember reading about that before I started to buy Mods..
I remember reading about that before I started to buy Mods..
It prompted me to learn every thing I could about what battery’s can and cannot be used in each mod I bought before I bought it and why.
I am sorry the OP had this experience I hope every thing works out.
I remember reading about that before I started to buy Mods..
It prompted me to learn every thing I could about what battery’s can and cannot be used in each mod I bought before I bought it and why.
I am sorry the OP had this experience I hope every thing works out.
It's only cause the vets have seen this issue many times now.....Some forget not everyone is all hardcore about PVs......
One reason the GG now has a fuse you can insert in it.....
For those that remember the GG Rocket
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I guess I'm different then. I read as much as I possibly could to be well informed about a purchase. Especially a purchase that costs as much as it does. Also if i don't see any info on their website, I certainly would ask questions. IF this happened to me i would feel responsible for not being informed. I don't know much about batteries, but i know enough to be safe. I bought the CR2 batts for my BB that others have had a good experience with. You know as well as i know, Altsmoke does not recommend stacking batteries.
So, if you EVER need CR123 batteries, and you must get them in town. BUY non-rechargeable batteries for high-end flashlights. Lowes sells them for 5 bucks for 2...and they last about 3 days...It's cheaper to even buy them at surefire.com
These batteries can take a beating because flashlights REALLY drain them hard. It's another reason you don't see them selling rechargeable batteries..cause they don't want their flash lights going boom boom.
IF you want recharable CR123 batteries ONLY use A Protected or two LifePO4 BUT make sure that the LifePO4 is AW cause it's really the only one I know of that can take the load.
Eastmall.net also sells a cr123 that can handle the load(16340 just a different name)
Lighthound carries these kinds of batteries also.....
Just giving you a heads up.....remember EGOs can blow up too.....as with all batteries....RARE it is, but if you do it right it's almost 1 in a million. It's the number game that goes against battery companies cause they just can't make it 100% safe making so many of them........
Apparently your safety isn't worth a few mins. You have no idea what kind of time I have on my hands... but of course it's always safe to assume.
Blame the world... everyone else does.
I was just giving my opinion, I'm sorry your so sensitive.
Good luck to you. Hope all the other vendors can give you every detail you might not know because you feel you don't have to read anything.
If there is a batt that fits but SHOULD NEVER BE USED it is the absolute responsability of the supplier to let the buyer know. It is SO simple, just to include a warning on the web site and a warning notice w/ the device. How difficult could that possibly be? Have you ever bought ANY electronic device that didn't come with even the simplest of warnings like "do not emerse in water". Every electronic device sold should and generally does assume that the buyer knows nothing about the device. And to avoid legal responsability, all e-cig manufacturers should as well. Simple fix, it is the sellers fault for assuming too much and not providing very simple safety instructions.
I sure hope you are OK.
Even the eGo's come with a warning about not using their USB High Speed chargers with regular 510 batts.
There definitely should be some printed material with your GLV warning NOT to use unprotected batteries and in big print.
There should have also been an immediate response to your request for the correct batteries you ordered with your PV. Included in the response, supposing he was out of batteries, would also be another warning to not go out and buy some unknown batteries i.e. unprotected, for this brand new device that you just spent a bunch of money for from him and his company.
NO matter how busy a business owner is, they should allow for the time to educate their customers when selling something that cause bodily harm if not used properly.
It is things like this that will give those questioning vaping a whole bunch of ammunition to use against us.
Please keep up posted on your health AND response from Jay.
Even the eGo's come with a warning about not using their USB High Speed chargers with regular 510 batts.
There definitely should be some printed material with your GLV warning NOT to use unprotected batteries and in big print.
There should have also been an immediate response to your request for the correct batteries you ordered with your PV. Included in the response, supposing he was out of batteries, would also be another warning to not go out and buy some unknown batteries i.e. unprotected, for this brand new device that you just spent a bunch of money for from him and his company.
NO matter how busy a business owner is, they should allow for the time to educate their customers when selling something that cause bodily harm if not used properly.
It is things like this that will give those questioning vaping a whole bunch of ammunition to use against us.
Please keep up posted on your health AND response from Jay.
It seems a VERY simple and IMPORTANT warning that unprotected batts MAY blow up. How difficult could that be? It's simple and avoids confusion. Why do you have a problem w/ the idea that "Buyer beware" is a BAD thing for e-cig suppliers to reley on?
seriously?
If the MANUAL from the COMPANY you get your product from tells you to get a specific item that you need to operate that product (in my case a cr123) are you going to question what type of cr123? that seems pretty specific to me..
i'm not asking for EVERY DETAIL on a product,.. but maybe specific ones that could cause an explosion would be helpful (especially one that says a variation of the model they suggested in the MANUAL).. thanks for your insightful input.
i just believe that if you are gonna step up to a big battery mod, you should learn about the batteries that you will be using. Nothing wrong with telling the buyer the list of things they should not do. I just don't believe it's their responsibility to. Of course this is where lawyers come in a screw things up.
You know there was a time when you didn't have to be warned that coffee is hot. But these days you do. Go figure.
I guess the vaping industry hasn't evolved to that point yet. It seems like only recently have new vapers been jumping straight into mods instead of.getting something simple like a 510. I guess the makers of big batt mods assume the buyer knows exactly what they are getting into.
Next time get some lifepo4. I've been using the same pair in my prodigy for over six months... no problems. They'll get REAL hot but they wont blow up.
bert.......
In the real world most things run off of AA batteries....It's pertty much a standared. and does not matter what AA you are running.
In the lithium battery world things are different, BUT most people don't know that cause they have only used standard AAA, AA. C, D batteries.
You can not blame ANYONE if the product just says use CR123 batteries for this. CAUSE the person making the mod knows damn well that not all lithium batteries are the same....there is no set standard for them on the market.
Really there should be....Cr123 should mean non-protected CR123p should mean protected and so on...with the c rating posted on every battery....BUT it's not like that yet....so the supplier should say you need CR123 protected batteries. Not just CR123......
In the real world most things run off of AA batteries....It's pertty much a standared. and does not matter what AA you are running.
In the lithium battery world things are different, BUT most people don't know that cause they have only used standard AAA, AA. C, D batteries.
You can not blame ANYONE if the product just says use CR123 batteries for this. CAUSE the person making the mod knows damn well that not all lithium batteries are the same....there is no set standard for them on the market.
Really there should be....Cr123 should mean non-protected CR123p should mean protected and so on...with the c rating posted on every battery....BUT it's not like that yet....so the supplier should say you need CR123 protected batteries. Not just CR123......
And that is your opinion..
That's how that works.
I just state my opinion.. You don't have to agree.
ok.. I was sympathetic to you... to a point... I'm sorry this happened.
But you looked at a manual for the charger and grabbed just any cr123 battery. You looked at the charger manual.... without knowing there were different types of cr123s.
I mean this whole thing is really unfortunate. I'm not saying you shouldn't be upset. But really. While it might be nice if the site said something, you bought over-the-counter batteries, stuck them in, because your batteries hadn't shipped.
You vaped the bejeesus out of your mod. Probably ran the batteries down to zero, damaged the cells, recharged, and when you vaped it went boom.
You have to accept responsibility for your part in this.
You think you are helping the mod maker by escalating things and making the OP more upset and defensive? If you can buy a battery with the same name that fits in the charger and fits in the device that makes the PV have a higher risk of exploding, I think it would be the manufacturers responsibility and good business practice to let people buying the device know.
This isn't so bad. It is probably the best possible way that this issue could come to light. No one was seriously injured and the word is out. I hope those selling mods to people who are not familiar with the technology let their customers know that a particular type of battery is required to operate the mod safely. I don't think that is unreasonable and it will protect the modders from liability.
I think we are all aware that this is caused by the market for mods opening up to people without extensive experience and knowledge of PVs. The market will continue to grow and people will buy the mods who have never seen ECF or read an article on how li-on batteries work and the suppliers need to deal with it now, before someone loses a hand
GLV2 is not really a mod. It is a mass produced battery encloser. You can really call it a mod anymore. It is in this day and age the makers responsibility to put all kinds of warnings on the thing. I mean you cant even buy a plastic bag with out it saying dont put on your head or you could die or ladder that doesnt say if you go over the 3 step and fall and kill your self it's your fault we cant be sued. Those two i mention are no brainers. But with something like this where people just dont know unless they have done some learning on the subject. For sure you need to put warnings in the manual on the web page. Not only to protect the public but also to protect you if your the seller from lawsuits. Really you can agree with or not agree with it, it really doesn't matter that the way it is.
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