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[DistantDrumming]

I'm very new to vaping and DIY. Have been trying to emmulate an old school clove cigarette. From what I've been reading here it seems that the tobacco flavors need to steep for quite some time. Would it be best if I mixed up small amounts of single tabacoo flavors first, before adding clove? To get a feel for them. With the whole steeping process, is it going to be months...years before I actually get what I want?

 

[clh2121]

First off... There's alot of good info on Tobaccos on here... find which ones you think would work. Hangsen and Inawera are both popular. Tobaccos need to steep longer than some others, so yeah give it time... But I would mix the tobaccos, steep them and then start slowly adding clove and giving it several days before upping the clove. With luck you could nail it within a month, but it might take a few months to figure out what works for you.

 

[michaelsil1]

I'm very new to vaping and DIY. Have been trying to emmulate an old school clove cigarette. From what I've been reading here it seems that the tobacco flavors need to steep for quite some time. Would it be best if I mixed up small amounts of single tabacoo flavors first, before adding clove? To get a feel for them. With the whole steeping process, is it going to be months...years before I actually get what I want?

Here's a Recipe from Jimi D.

Kretek 10ml

Inawera WG TA Garuda 10 drops
Inawera Clove 6 drops
Distilled Water 3%

 

[DistantDrumming]

Thanks guys. There is a lot of good info here, but honestly it's so varied...everyone has their own take on best tobacco flavors and steeping.

 

[Art Mustel]

Thanks guys. There is a lot of good info here, but honestly it's so varied...everyone has their own take on best tobacco flavors and steeping.

Because you are absolutely right, I feel I am allowed to express my opinion. Work in small batches (like 5ml)...taste them. If you like what you tasted, make more and allow it to steep like a couple of weeks. If you hate it, discard it, because you just will hate it a little less after steeping but you won't enjoy it.

And I think you should mix all the flavors you are going to use at once.

 

[CreepyLady]

+1 on the Kretek recipe and +1 for artmustel's advice.

Find recipes that look interesting and appeal to you, mix small test batches and sample them fresh, if there is love potential happening - make big batches to put on steep- if there is a hate factor scratch it off your list. Tobaccos are a more difficult flavor to peg down (clove too really) and they do require steeping. Occasionally I am rather jealous of the fruit vapors because a lot of those mixes are instantly enjoyable. If you like the tobacco's fresh - its fine to vape them, but if you make a few large bottles at once of one's you enjoy fresh - by the time you get to the second bottle from the same batch it will have a nice steep going on

 

[DistantDrumming]

You know what. I'm gonna try your advice artmustel. Small 10 ml of 12% ry4, 2% dark vapure, 4% clove, and 1% espresso. Wish me luck

 

[Art Mustel]

You know what. I'm gonna try your advice artmustel. Small 10 ml of 12% ry4, 2% dark vapure, 4% clove, and 1% espresso. Wish me luck

Wow, interesting mix! It sounds like a keeper. Good luck! and keep us posted.

 

[DistantDrumming]

Actually turned out kinda nice. The expresso seems to override even at 1%. Definitely has a warm hue. Will make a larger 30ml and let it steep with 0.5% expresso. Hoping the tobacco starts to shine after some steeping time. Would love some input on getting the tabacoo flavors to be more dominant.

 

[Art Mustel]

Actually turned out kinda nice. The expresso seems to override even at 1%. Definitely has a warm hue. Will make a larger 30ml and let it steep with 0.5% expresso. Hoping the tobacco starts to shine after some steeping time. Would love some input on getting the tabacoo flavors to be more dominant.

The tobacco flavors will need to steep, however you could try doubling the dark vapure.

 

[Blueser]

Actually turned out kinda nice. The expresso seems to override even at 1%. Definitely has a warm hue. Will make a larger 30ml and let it steep with 0.5% expresso. Hoping the tobacco starts to shine after some steeping time. Would love some input on getting the tabacoo flavors to be more dominant.

Anytime I see RY4 mentioned in the same sentence as tobacco, I wonder what the mixer is anticipating as far as a tobacco taste or rather lack of. The only RY4 I've found that I like is Hangsen, all the others for me have too much caramel/vanilla....anywhooo, I would think if you want a more dominate tobacco taste you need to drop the RY4 as the dominance there is vanilla/caramel (with the exception of HS RY1-4)...take a look at Inawera for tobacco's or Hangsen....jas

 

[Hoosier]

Dark Vapure can go from a dark tobacco to a coca flavor in a fraction of a %. It is one of the weirder flavorings to play with and very rewarding when you nail one.

I suspect we all have different tastes so it only seems reasonable that we'd have different ideas of the best tobacco flavors.
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[Heabob]

RY4 is more like "other flavors" up front with a hint of tobacco.
Not a good base for a "true tobacco" flavor tho.
But not really a bad vape, as a lot of people like RY4.
Expresso/coffee is a dominating flavor also, so maybe just add a drop or 2...

Like Bluser said: Inawera & Hangsen have some better tobaccos to use for a base.

I also like some of the VZ brand alcohol based tobaccos, (a bit less steeping required).
It's a learning curve to find the flavors you like most, and most of us here have already gone through what you're experiencing.
I read the descriptions on tobacco flavorings real carefully to try and eliminate some of the "addons" like vanilla, caramel, etc.
But it's because I want "tobacco only" flavors, however some odd ones still slip through.
And 145 flavors later, not all tobacco, I'm still adding and trying new flavors.
Some here have way more than me cause I'm still a noob too

 

[DistantDrumming]

Thanks guys for all the tips and suggestions. Very much appreciated It's kinda fun just playing around with different flavors and all. Going to order a few more tobacco flavors. Think I'll do them on their own to get a good sense of them. Let them steep a week and go from there.