Distilled water substitute??

[SaintMirage]

I want to put about 20% water in an experimental batch but I don't have distillers water here so I was thinking of boiling some filtered water, is this ok and will it be safe for vaping?


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[Rat2chat2]

Personally I would go get some distilled or use Everclear instead (PGA) The Everclear will add more throat hit. I like it. Good luck to ya.

 

[we2rcool]

Actually boiling water boils off some of the chemicals while concentrating others...and concentrates the minerals. Distilled water is best (although we've used Reverse Osmosis filtered for a few small batches). For a small batch, it's likely okay to use the filtered water (as long as the minerals and bad tasting chemicals are filtered out adequately).

While we can add a very small percentage of alcohol to our vapes, please do not substitute 20% - that much vaporized alcohol is NOT a good thing.

We make a "VG Base" that we use for all of our mixes; it is 80% VG; 13.5% distilled water; 4.5% saline solution (.9%) and 2% pure grain alcohol (we used to use 9% dw and 9% saline, but when we changed wicking material to Nextel the salt flavor came through, so we lowered it).

When mixing, we plug that Base into our calculators as plain VG.

Happy mixin'!

 

[JackH]

Hey We2, What saline solution do you use? Thanks.

 

[kachuge]

Actually boiling water boils off some of the chemicals while concentrating others...and concentrates the minerals. Distilled water is best (although we've used Reverse Osmosis filtered for a few small batches). For a small batch, it's likely okay to use the filtered water (as long as the minerals and bad tasting chemicals are filtered out adequately).

While we can add a very small percentage of alcohol to our vapes, please do not substitute 20% - that much vaporized alcohol is NOT a good thing.

We make a "VG Base" that we use for all of our mixes; it is 80% VG; 13.5% distilled water; 4.5% saline solution (.9%) and 2% pure grain alcohol (we used to use 9% dw and 9% saline, but when we changed wicking material to Nextel the salt flavor came through, so we lowered it).

When mixing, we plug that Base into our calculators as plain VG.

Happy mixin'!

Yet again, I learned something...... and pretty interesting too....
thanks,
g

 

[we2rcool]

Hey We2, What saline solution do you use? Thanks.

Generically, you're looking .9% sterile saline solution - most typically sold for irrigating wounds (not the kind for injection). It's also used for lung/bronchial nebulizer treatements ('way back when' the medicine & the saline solution were separate and mixed at home; now they're usually premixed). It's also used for hydration & rinsing of sinuses, eyewashing, etc.

One does not need a prescription for it (it's just USP sodium chloride/salt mixed with distilled water!), but it's not uncommon for folks trying to purchase it 'in person' to be told that a prescription is "required". :::eyeroll::: It's somehow 'regulated' by the feds, so in some cases the seller has to do a bunch of paperwork or something, so they just tell folks it's "prescription only"...but it's freely available online from many sellers.

Here's an Amazon link/search: Amazon.com: saline solution .9%

I've noticed some folks are using this: http://www.amazon.com/Ubimed-Cleanoz-Preservative-Saline-Solution/dp/B002SG7LAG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1397840706&sr=8-1&keywords=cleanoz

We get ours from a local mom & pop pharmacy ($4 per liter ). You don't want anything with antimicrobial/other preservatives or 'additives'.

It seriously helps with hydrating your mouth/sinsuses (even our eyes are less dry), and it helps flavors 'pop' (we consider it essential for bakery & chocolate mixes and many fruits - but we use it in all our mixes).

 

[we2rcool]

Yet again, I learned something...... and pretty interesting too....
thanks,
g

'Welcome of course. Wethinks a day is wasted if we don't learn something new

 

[Flt Simulation]

we2rcool .... What e-juice company do you work for / own?

 

[Wingsfan0310]

I can get a gallon of distilled water for about $1.00 from the grocery store near me. I suggest picking one up, it's quite useful in DIY imo.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[we2rcool]

we2rcool .... What e-juice company do you work for / own?

We2 are just "we two people DIYing" - we have no association or financial interest in any way, shape or form with any e-juice company (or flavoring company). Since we are herbalists, we know (all too well) the time & frustration required for 'customer service with integrity' - and the very really risks of being in a field that the authorities are hell-bent on regulating & controlling.

Lol, this ain't our first rodeo! So it's highly unlikely we'd ever enter a commercial field where the 'customer service' aspects would be far more demanding; the health/liability issues are enormous, and the stress would take all the fun out of it. 'Can't say we haven't kicked around the idea of (one day, someday maybe, when we retire, if we're still vaping) making 'flavorings' out of absolutes, CO2 extracts and other natural/organic goodies...but that's very unlikely to ever be seriously 'on the table for consideration'.

 

[Exchaner]

Does anyone know what % of TOTAL volume in distilled water yields the best throat hit? The reason I emphasize total, is because I use a 50/50 mix and would like to keep pg,vg exactly equal.