DIY Discussion

[Ru42]

Greetings!

I noticed I had been asking a lot of question in the DIY Recipe thread and got to thinking that probably isn't the best place for question. I know there is a DIY section in the Forums but I like discussing with the PIF family - so here is our DIY discussion thread.


And to kick it off -

I am not sure what the heck I just made. I was using Marks TOB4 recipe and mine is a shade or 2 darker. I hate working with TA or more exact, dealing with TA and a plastic pipette. I just can't get a good measurement with it. I'd use a syringe but the bottle the TA is in is tiny and not even my .01ml syringe fits in it. Maybe I need to order a larger size and thus in a bigger bottle.

I want to recommend getting some little beakers. Mark sent me one to try out and I love the thing. I mixed the TOB4 in a snap. It has a 5ml and 10ml lines. Working with VG is a little difficult because of it's thickness. But the beaker made it a snap.

I filled to the 5ml line my nic juice. I added my 1.5ml of seedmans. And then straight from the VG bottle I brought it up to the 10ml line. All in all 1 minute tops. (The TA portion I wont go into.)

So, now I have 10ml of some sort or tobacco juice. I put some in a 6ml bottle and some in a 3ml bottle. To the 3ml I added 5 drops of red hot. I will let you know how it comes out.

 

[markfm]

Sounds like good stuff. If it's darker you've got a bit more TA than me -- if it's slightly too strong a flavor, a bit more PG and nic will thin it out.

I've got a boatload of the 15ml beakers -- it was a 100-pack, and they do wash easily. I just use syringes for little 6 ml test mixing or for the flavorings -- eyeball using the beakers works for bigger mixing, dealing with things that are > 5 ml of a given component.

Happy to send you a dropper -- PA includes them for each bottle, so I've got spares (I only use them on the TA and Kona, the really strong things)

 

[Ru42]

I was aiming for 5 drops of TA since my nic is 50/50 and all I have to add right now is VG; so I am ending up with something like 30/70V; so I figured I needed 1 drop more of TA. I haven't tested it yet; I will after lunch.

 

[Bahnzo]

RU42....do you dilute your TA before using it? It's much easier to work with if you dilute it either in PGA or just plain PG.

Ya know what I love? Getting a package of flavorings that you forgot you ordered. Got a 6 pack of Cappella's in the mail today that I forgot I ordered last week.

 

[zbasspro]

u lucky bass turd!!!! I want to order from capellas so bad!!!! LOL

 

[redgirl]

RU42....do you dilute your TA before using it? It's much easier to work with if you dilute it either in PGA or just plain PG.

Ya know what I love? Getting a package of flavorings that you forgot you ordered. Got a 6 pack of Cappella's in the mail today that I forgot I ordered last week.

What flavors did you get?

I don't like TA. I think it tastes yucky.

 

[Bahnzo]

u lucky bass turd!!!! I want to order from capellas so bad!!!! LOL

Nah nah! <sticks tounge out>

I'm really finding Capellas to be the best flavors for many things. What I got:
Vanilla Custard
Caramel
Boston Cream Pie
Milk Chocolate Toffee
Cappuccino
Blueberry

Whipped up a 3ml batch at 20% of all and letting them sit a bit. But I cheated and tried the caramel (I haven't found a decent caramel yet) and it's pretty good....best I've found so far.

 

[Bahnzo]

I don't like TA. I think it tastes yucky.

I get that, but personally I love TA. I mix the dilute at 1 drop per 2ml of PG, and then use it at 10%. It's actually a sweet tasting tobacco. I almost wish it was a harsher, more pipe or cigar tasting type, but it's still pretty damn good as a base for other stuff.

 

[zbasspro]

that caps.. van custard is the bomb!!!!!

 

[Bahnzo]

that caps.. van custard is the bomb!!!!!

Oh...and I should mention I got a kick ... deal on it too. They have the free shipping promo going on now, but they forgot to take down their other coupon promos. So I got free shipping, and 15% off since I ordered over $35. Basically got a free bottle w/free shipping as well. Can't beat that!

Nah, nah.....

 

[zbasspro]

to the moon w/ u... ...dang whats the promo code??? LOL.. gonna have to do some beggin tonight!!!

 

[Bahnzo]

to the moon w/ u... ...dang whats the promo code??? LOL.. gonna have to do some beggin tonight!!!

They took it down.......I realized the next day what a deal it was, and was gonna post it in the Deals & Steals thread...but I went to check it and found they realized what a great deal it was, too.

 

[asharp22]

ok I think you need to sshare those coupon codes now.....

 

[Ru42]

I get that, but personally I love TA. I mix the dilute at 1 drop per 2ml of PG, and then use it at 10%. It's actually a sweet tasting tobacco. I almost wish it was a harsher, more pipe or cigar tasting type, but it's still pretty damn good as a base for other stuff.

That is a good idea, I should mix it down. Should I only use Everclear or would vodka so just as good (I have one and not the other.) I would assume (and please correct me if I am wrong) if I dilute it at 4 parts PGA to 1 part TA - then any recipe that calls for 4 drops I should then use 20? What I bought was 1ml vile from 1Stop (Tobacco Absolute (Blond) - One Stop DIY Shop Store). I figure I could pour that into a 6 ml bottle and then add in 4ml PGA.

I like TA but likewise, I would like something heartier, as you say pipe/cigar like. That is what I like about FSUSA Wyatt Earp. Have you found anything that is in that category?

 

[Bahnzo]

That is a good idea, I should mix it down. Should I only use Everclear or would vodka so just as good (I have one and not the other.) I would assume (and please correct me if I am wrong) if I dilute it at 4 parts PGA to 1 part TA - then any recipe that calls for 4 drops I should then use 20? What I bought was 1ml vile from 1Stop (Tobacco Absolute (Blond) - One Stop DIY Shop Store). I figure I could pour that into a 6 ml bottle and then add in 4ml PGA.

I like TA but likewise, I would like something heartier, as you say pipe/cigar like. That is what I like about FSUSA Wyatt Earp. Have you found anything that is in that category?

No no no no no.....that's WAY too strong. 1 drop TA per 2ml of PGA/PG to make a dilute. Pouring that whole 1ml is a disaster waiting to happen. And even then, the strength I use is stronger than what is recommended I believe.

So basically how I make my dilute, is I take 10ml PG (I don't use PGA as it thins the final mixture too much) and add 5 drops TA from a LorAnne's dropper. Then I put it in hot water for 5 mins, and shake it up and let it sit overnight, shaking it up when I remember.

 

[Ru42]

OK, I got ya - and one question. I do not have a Lorann dropper. How does a Lorann drop compare to lets say a drop from a 3ml bottle?

 

[markfm]

The stuff I got from PA before was what they call TA diluted, which was 50% PGA dilution. (1:1) That's what I used when I say 4 drops TA diluted per 10ml of final juice.

The Capt Black Top Note concentrate from Seedman might be more of a pipe-style I sent a bit towards Zbasspro to try for DIY. Treat it like Commercial for base %, be gentle on the TA addition.

 

[Bahnzo]

OK, I got ya - and one question. I do not have a Lorann dropper. How does a Lorann drop compare to lets say a drop from a 3ml bottle?

It all depends on the bottle and liquid itself. I stopped using drops as a measure and only use a 1ml syringe to measure flavoring now. With the exception of TA....you just need a dropper for that.

Mark: that Seedman stuff is on my to do list. I'm not overly happy with the FA tobacco stuff, so I'll have to give Seedman's a try next.

 

[Ru42]

@Bahnzo - I was looking for recipes that are more pipe/cigar flavor and I saw you have some FA trials going. I was looking at their site and saw Cuban, Dark Vapure, and Desert Ship. How did they come out?

EDIT - oops, we were posting at the same time LOL. I guess they didn't come out too well. I saw you noted the flavors git softer over time. I guess they continued to go down hill.

 

[redgirl]

The tobacco flavors I like the most are cuban cigar, dark vapure, perique black, & DK tab (PA). I have added PA hickory & black sesame seed recently. Love the black sesame seed, that's my new tobacco thing.