DIY E Juice flavor fail no matter what technique I use
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Seems like a good option would be to mix your Unflavored and use the Mini Nautilus strictly for unflavored while you perfect your DIY...
Just a thought.
Am4a is vapeable right away in my opinion, but smooths out in about 2 days. 6 drops is about 4% of 5ml with my droppers.
Steeping really varies with the % of VG/PG. I use 50/50 but in thicker juices it may take longer. If say you were sub-ohming and using 80% VG or more then I'd imagine steeping would take longer, simply because the flavor molecules find more resistance in denser liquid. My opinion and not necessarily a fact.
I made juice that I was telling you about on 10/29. It been sitting for 5 days now. I just tried it. Flavor is kind of there but faaaaarr away from what I want. And its kind of harsh on throat. Maybe because its 70PG/30VG
Mix was 8% Pear LA, 5% Strawberry Ripe TFA, 5% Cantaloupe TFA. All I feel here is little cantaloupe and thats all. Barely there. It was mixed,shake, I did put it in how water for 15 min, shake then left it in a drawer for 24 hours. After that cap off for 10 hours to breathe, shake and left it in a drawer. Next day cap off for 30 min to breathe,shake back to drawer. After 2 days cap off for 15 min shake back to drawer. Thats all I did and its still not good even if its 70%PG. If I made it 50-50 or 60%VG I can bet I wouldnt feel anything right now. So my process this time was right except maybe I shouldnt put it in hot water after mixing but with or without I dont think that would make a big difference.
Mix was 8% Pear LA, 5% Strawberry Ripe TFA, 5% Cantaloupe TFA. All I feel here is little cantaloupe and thats all. Barely there. It was mixed,shake, I did put it in how water for 15 min, shake then left it in a drawer for 24 hours. After that cap off for 10 hours to breathe, shake and left it in a drawer. Next day cap off for 30 min to breathe,shake back to drawer. After 2 days cap off for 15 min shake back to drawer. Thats all I did and its still not good even if its 70%PG. If I made it 50-50 or 60%VG I can bet I wouldnt feel anything right now. So my process this time was right except maybe I shouldnt put it in hot water after mixing but with or without I dont think that would make a big difference.
To me, that seems like an odd flavor combination. In my mind they wouldn't compliment one another at all, could that be what your issue has been all along?
As suggested earlier, try a recipe that's been tried, tested, and liked by a few others. Try going to a recipe site and finding something that strikes your interest, here's one you can try:
E-Liquid Recipes | DIY E-Juice | e cig Liquids
As suggested earlier, try a recipe that's been tried, tested, and liked by a few others. Try going to a recipe site and finding something that strikes your interest, here's one you can try:
E-Liquid Recipes | DIY E-Juice | e cig Liquids
I've found this recipe online. I think the name was honey pear or something like that. On their recipe cantaloupe and strawberry was only 3% and I added 5% of each. Even my way I dont feel strawberry at all only something like pear or cantaloupe but still weak.
And another thing. Can someone list me base flavors (mixers)?
I was even wondering do many people vape on those subohm tanks so they dont need as much flavor?
I see most of the recipes have low % of each flavor like 3% strawberry, 2% kiwi, 2% vanilla custard. When I use that low of aroma there is nothing I taste in that juice. Even higher on aroma is still not that strong as I want.
I was even wondering do many people vape on those subohm tanks so they dont need as much flavor?
I see most of the recipes have low % of each flavor like 3% strawberry, 2% kiwi, 2% vanilla custard. When I use that low of aroma there is nothing I taste in that juice. Even higher on aroma is still not that strong as I want.
Hmm... Yeah, I found it. First hing I noticed is that on the one I found, they used honeydew not cantaloupe with pear being the predominant flavor. Let's do the recipe live...
Given your NIC base, and assuming your looking for a 12mg 50/50 mix, here's what I come up with for a 10ml batch (given the flavors you have at hand):
NIC Base - 4.8ml
PG - 2.6ml
VG - 1.4ml
Pear - .6ml
Strawberry - .3ml
Cantaloupe - .3ml
Now, keep in mind, I do a Blueberry Cream mix that all I do is mix, warm water bath for a bit, and put it away for a week or more in a cupboard. I found it takes at least 10 days for that flavor to mature. I have tried it earlier but it just wasn't there. After the 10 day steep, it's almost too flavorful but that's a 40/60 (pg/vg) mix.
Another thing, your recipe is only about 12% flavor. My Blueberry Cream is at 22% flavor. I would recommend using dumping e-juicemeup and using JuiceCalculator by ECF Member HotRod19579:
New Calculator to try
It tells you where your flavor percentage is at and allows you to make global flavor percentage changes. So if you wanted to take that recipe from 12% to 20% it does all the math for you.
Hope that helps...
Given your NIC base, and assuming your looking for a 12mg 50/50 mix, here's what I come up with for a 10ml batch (given the flavors you have at hand):
NIC Base - 4.8ml
PG - 2.6ml
VG - 1.4ml
Pear - .6ml
Strawberry - .3ml
Cantaloupe - .3ml
Now, keep in mind, I do a Blueberry Cream mix that all I do is mix, warm water bath for a bit, and put it away for a week or more in a cupboard. I found it takes at least 10 days for that flavor to mature. I have tried it earlier but it just wasn't there. After the 10 day steep, it's almost too flavorful but that's a 40/60 (pg/vg) mix.
Another thing, your recipe is only about 12% flavor. My Blueberry Cream is at 22% flavor. I would recommend using dumping e-juicemeup and using JuiceCalculator by ECF Member HotRod19579:
New Calculator to try
It tells you where your flavor percentage is at and allows you to make global flavor percentage changes. So if you wanted to take that recipe from 12% to 20% it does all the math for you.
Hope that helps...
Agh this calculator doesnt have the option of my nicotine base and if I use dropdown for nicotine it just says none.
Which one? JuiceCalculator? Yes, it is a bit of work to set up, you need to add your NIC base as an ingredient. But when you have added all of your on-hand supplies, it will maintain your inventory levels and tell you how much each recipe will cost to batch.
There is a file of sample ingredients and recipes you can download. Get the latest version of the program (6.2?) and download the sample file. It's just an XML file you open with the app. That will show you how it gets set up and the sample recipes are pretty good too, that's where I got the blueberry cream from. The neatest part is, open a recipe and you can generate a "shopping list" for everything that you currently don't have on hand
Which one? JuiceCalculator? Yes, it is a bit of work to set up, you need to add your NIC base as an ingredient. But when you have added all of your on-hand supplies, it will maintain your inventory levels and tell you how much each recipe will cost to batch.
There is a file of sample ingredients and recipes you can download. Get the latest version of the program (6.2?) and download the sample file. It's just an XML file you open with the app. That will show you how it gets set up and the sample recipes are pretty good too, that's where I got the blueberry cream from. The neatest part is, open a recipe and you can generate a "shopping list" for everything that you currently don't have on hand
Cool I just found the way how to add nicotine. Will explore everything else. Thanks!
Good... Download that sample file, Tigers Blood looks similar to what you're trying for but you'll need a few more flavors...
My take on it is to always make separate 10 ml batches of each flavor and start @ a low % and add more drops as needed till you start to taste it and also would be beneficial to test on an RDA, if it doesn't taste descent after a good shake "n" vape odds are 2 day's of steeping isn't going to make it taste "much" better, fruity flavors shouldn't need more than 2 day's to come around.
Make notes of how many drops per 10 ml of 50/50, unless your VG intolerant you should at the least try a 50/50 mix ratio.
Then remember you want a flavor profile meaning one of the flavors in your recipe should be more dominant than the others, so if you add 5 % of each they sometimes tend to mute each other. Someones recipe calling for 20 % might not mean 20 % for your taste ..............................
Make notes of how many drops per 10 ml of 50/50, unless your VG intolerant you should at the least try a 50/50 mix ratio.
Then remember you want a flavor profile meaning one of the flavors in your recipe should be more dominant than the others, so if you add 5 % of each they sometimes tend to mute each other. Someones recipe calling for 20 % might not mean 20 % for your taste ..............................
From the same place you got the program. I guess it's his google drive that he shares and keeps it updated.
@sparkky1 , totally agree. I've only been DIY'in since 9/20 and I've tried all my flavors on their own in a 510 dripping atty with a 7mg 20/80 base just to see how they tasted. Gave me a good idea what would/wouldn't go well together. Now, after just a month, I've got 3 recipes that I like and keep on hand all the time...
I went yesterday to local vape shop to buy RDA but they told me it wont fire on my mod which is only 20W.
I am not VG or PG intolerant so I tend to make 40PG/60VG mix it gives me good vapor and TH.
I am kind of struggling to make just single fruit ejuice. No matter what I try it never taste good. Sometimes its harsh and chemically so I say ok its too much of flavor. Then I make one with less flavor % and it comes out with no flavor at all.
I was trying to learn it step by step and explore all my flavors alone before I start mixing recipes but .... I cant even start and make a simple good tasting ejuice.
I would pick up an istick 100w(will give you long battery life and room to grow),around 30$ on sale, the innolin Isub tanks are 10$ on sale and the heads(get the .5 ohm) are cheap,great subtank for the money......then I would start with the advice here to vape un flavored and Slooooowly add flavor then nic to get your feet wet.....don't feel like you've failed if you use store bought juice as a supplement, in fact id recommend it...........be patient and you'll look back down the road and be glad you did
Like @sparkky1 said, you should go at least 50/50. I started at 70/30 pg/vg because that's what my favorite commercial juice was and I was trying to copy it. I just couldn't take that much pg, made me cough.
Download that sample file and try Tigers Blood. Peaches and Cream looks really good too and I'll be trying it when my new supplies show up next week.
Don't listen to a vape shop when they say something won't fire on your device, all they know is the sub-ohm craze. For testing juice, make a 1.5 ohm (or higher) single coil in an RDA. Look online for an iGo-L, probably less than 10 bucks. It will make a great test atty...
Download that sample file and try Tigers Blood. Peaches and Cream looks really good too and I'll be trying it when my new supplies show up next week.
Don't listen to a vape shop when they say something won't fire on your device, all they know is the sub-ohm craze. For testing juice, make a 1.5 ohm (or higher) single coil in an RDA. Look online for an iGo-L, probably less than 10 bucks. It will make a great test atty...
My first year of DIY i always went too light on the flavor percentages , nowadays i go higher percentages (mostly in the 20% + range and sometimes 30% range) , some flavors are just ridiculously weak.
I am finally producing recipes that are actually vapable which is a milestone for me , in the past they were " not even remotely close to being vapable" or " vape at your own risk" type recipes .
What seems to really make a difference for me for fruit and desert type vapes are the sweet creams or fresh creams and even a drop or two of suraclose can be a difference maker.
I am finally producing recipes that are actually vapable which is a milestone for me , in the past they were " not even remotely close to being vapable" or " vape at your own risk" type recipes .
What seems to really make a difference for me for fruit and desert type vapes are the sweet creams or fresh creams and even a drop or two of suraclose can be a difference maker.
I haven't been in a vape shop since I was on vacation. Wanted to taste a couple juices and they handed me some terrible ce4 that was awful. I left, wanted to support the local vape shop there but couldn't. ... Sorry rant over there are some great shops out there.
I have seen the igo for cheap $7.75ish. Just have to find best price with cheapest shipping. I won't bore you with my fave mod lol.
And I just have to say many of the flavors I have tried are awful to me. Some crowd favorites I don't like. Having a dripper to test makes it much easier. The first custard I made tasted like chemicals then nothing. A month later it was awesome and gone in a day. I still have mishaps here and there but most things I make today are at least good. You will get the hang of it. May set you back a few hundred but it will happen.
I have seen the igo for cheap $7.75ish. Just have to find best price with cheapest shipping. I won't bore you with my fave mod lol.
And I just have to say many of the flavors I have tried are awful to me. Some crowd favorites I don't like. Having a dripper to test makes it much easier. The first custard I made tasted like chemicals then nothing. A month later it was awesome and gone in a day. I still have mishaps here and there but most things I make today are at least good. You will get the hang of it. May set you back a few hundred but it will happen.
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