DIY e liquid vs Big Box Retailers

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It is my understanding that oils should never be used for vaping. I would do a little research on this.

Not true. Therapeutic Grade, pure, organic. I am talking a few drops per 60ml total juice. essential oils are strong, concentrated flavors, so it doesn't take much. Orange, lime, lemon, cinnamon...Ask yourself if it makes more sense to use pure, organic flavors or chemically produced flavors. I have been vaping for over 10 years, never had a problem.

Here is an interesting link, but follow what you believe is best for you.
Vaping essential "oils" and lipid pneumonia. • r/DIY_eJuice
 

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Agree. It's the reason that oil in nose drops was removed 50 years ago. People were sniffing them into the lungs and developing Lipid Pneumonia. If it doesn't dissolve in water it has no place in vape juice.

Worth a read.
Lipid pneumonia - Wikipedia
Essential oils are NOT OIL, the link below explains. Use pure, organic therapeutic oils only. Very concentrated so just a bit needs to be used.

Ask yourself if it makes more sense to use pure, organic flavors or chemically produced flavors. I have been vaping for over 10 years, never had a problem.

MANY people with respiratory problems use room vaporizers with essential oils as an effective healing therapy.

Here is an interesting link, but follow what you believe is best for you.
Vaping essential "oils" and lipid pneumonia. • r/DIY_eJuice
 

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Not true. Therapeutic Grade, pure, organic. I am talking a few drops per 60ml total juice. essential oils are strong, concentrated flavors, so it doesn't take much. Orange, lime, lemon, cinnamon...Ask yourself if it makes more sense to use pure, organic flavors or chemically produced flavors. I have been vaping for over 10 years, never had a problem.

Here is an interesting link, but follow what you believe is best for you.
Vaping essential "oils" and lipid pneumonia. • r/DIY_eJuice

That is a link to a post by literally "Some Dude" who readily admits he doesn't really know what he is talking about. If some dude is a good enough source for you then so be it and best of luck to you. Personally, I'll stick with literally every other recommendation I have read that says you should not vape oils, essential or otherwise. And as far as your "pure organic" argument, I'll simply point out that that Arsenic is "pure and organic" but I still wouldn't recommend vaping it.
 

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Not true. Therapeutic Grade, pure, organic. I am talking a few drops per 60ml total juice. essential oils are strong, concentrated flavors, so it doesn't take much. Orange, lime, lemon, cinnamon...Ask yourself if it makes more sense to use pure, organic flavors or chemically produced flavors. I have been vaping for over 10 years, never had a problem.

Here is an interesting link, but follow what you believe is best for you.
Vaping essential "oils" and lipid pneumonia. • r/DIY_eJuice

Yes, It makes sense to use chemically produced flavors designed to be stable at high heat (cooking) over "organic" flavors that may degrade at high temps and produce unwanted chemicals.
 

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Ask yourself if it makes more sense to use pure, organic flavors or chemically produced flavors.
Six ml of one is a half dozen ml of the other. So the only difference between the two is the price and which one makes my taste buds tingle.

Maybe I drank too much water from the garden hose as a kid, but I think all this pure organic gluten free non-GMO crap is a fiendishly brilliant way to separate gullible consumers from their disposable income.

And as the greedy capitalist pig that I am, I hate that I didn't think of it first.

One of these days, all this pure organic gluten free non-GMO crap is going to be found responsible for climate change, sea level rise, shrinking rain forests and that ozone layer thing. That's gonna be a come to Jesus moment for a lot of folks and I hope I'm still around for that entertaining event.
 

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Six ml of one is a half dozen ml of the other. So the only difference between the two is the price and which one makes my taste buds tingle.

Maybe I drank too much water from the garden hose as a kid, but I think all this pure organic gluten free non-GMO crap is a fiendishly brilliant way to separate gullible consumers from their disposable income.

And as the greedy capitalist pig that I am, I hate that I didn't think of it first.

One of these days, all this pure organic gluten free non-GMO crap is going to be found responsible for climate change, sea level rise, shrinking rain forests and that ozone layer thing. That's gonna be a come to Jesus moment for a lot of folks and I hope I'm still around for that entertaining event.
Haha, I remember laughing when people started buying bottled water. Why pay for something that is perfectly fine out of the faucet for only pennies a gallon? Now, I wish I had thought about putting a filter on my faucet and charging $1 a bottle. Not laughing nowo_O
 

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I use one of the DIY specific suppliers ECX (E-Cig Express)...I get my base from them as well...There are several others...At ECX look in "Flavors" and you'll see all the names you mentioned...Here's a few links...Trig

DIY E-Liquid, Electronic Cigarettes and Wholesale Nicotine & E-Cig Juice | EcigExpress
Bull City Vapor Bull City
Wizard Labs Wizard lab Flavor link

EDIT: You'll see ECX has a "House Brand"...I'd assume they use the same flavorings they sell...But I don't think they'd be willing to say what's what !!!
The house brand flavorings are TFA, Not sure about their mixed juices though.
 

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The house brand flavorings are TFA, Not sure about their mixed juices though.
I was referring to their "House Brand" pre-mixed juices being made with the flavors they sell...As to their concentrates that they sell under their name "Flavors Express" I'm not so sure about those being TFA flavors...Most if not all of those are labeled "Made In China"...???
 
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I was referring to their "House Brand" pre-mixed juices being made with the flavors they sell...As to their concentrates that they sell under their name "Flavors Express" I'm not so sure about those being TFA flavors...Most if not all of those are labeled "Made In China"...???
 

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Haha, I remember laughing when people started buying bottled water. Why pay for something that is perfectly fine out of the faucet for only pennies a gallon? Now, I wish I had thought about putting a filter on my faucet and charging $1 a bottle. Not laughing nowo_O

I gave your post a like...........for most instances, but. If you ever visit my house, best to bring yourself some bottled water, even if it is from your tap. :D I used only bottled water for a couple years before I added a what I believe to be a high quality filter system for my drinking/cooking water. Our water is so bad, I even use that filtered water to clean/rinse my vape tanks when needed. :shock:
 

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I gave your post a like...........for most instances, but. If you ever visit my house, best to bring yourself some bottled water, even if it is from your tap. :D I used only bottled water for a couple years before I added a what I believe to be a high quality filter system for my drinking/cooking water. Our water is so bad, I even use that filtered water to clean/rinse my vape tanks when needed. :shock:
 

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We don't use bottled water but ours is practically undrinkable-- the husband installed a 5 filter and water softener under the house though, so now it's fantastic.

More people need to learn to do that stuff-- less bottled water purchased. I think lots of people have bad water, and don't even know it, but there can be nasty stuff in there. Our particulate levels were very high and the water is extremely hard-- you don't want to look in someone's toilet in Tucson city without a water filter--- You will see crazy amounts of minerals (including copper, and whatever deposits a red substance-- possibly dirt-- into the toilet bowl, it's GROSS).

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