DIY Liquid/ Money saving?/ 100mg vs less mg?

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AzPlumber

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Guys guys.. What could happen if such 100mg nicotine substance touches you?

You won't be dead rite?

Itchy perhaps, wash with soap, rinse water?

Just boggles me. Or maybe it would kill me..

Eeeekkkssss

Yes this stuff is very dangerous and you need to be very cautious when using it. For those of us that are users and tolerant a drop would probably make you feel ill but those around that are not users and have no tolerance it could be very very serious.
 

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All great advice. One caution often not considered is that you need to be careful not only of self-exposure during the mixing but any exposure that could occur "after-the-fact" from any spills, drips, or spatter that you might overlook during the transfers. A barefoot housemate, child, baby or pet that steps on any remaining liquid that one didn't notice can be very dangerous.

One thing I do, is when the higher dosage arrives, I typically mix up three bottle of new, lower level, nic mixing liquids... say one bottle 36mg PG. one bottle 36mg VG, and one bottle 36mg 50/50. This way I am only making three dangerous transfers then setting the super-high nic concentrate aside until I need it again.
 

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One thing I do, is when the higher dosage arrives, I typically mix up three bottle of new, lower level, nic mixing liquids... say one bottle 36mg PG. one bottle 36mg VG, and one bottle 36mg 50/50. This way I am only making three dangerous transfers then setting the super-high nic concentrate aside until I need it again.

Excellent advice, Bradder! My high-test stays in the top-loading freezer in shoeboxes (we have no kids at home anymore, and I do all my decanting and mixing over the kitchen sink), with each little bottle labelled as to what it is. Then, as needed, I take a 60 ml. bottle out of the freezer and cut it 3-for-1 with PG to get the concentration down to about 33 mg./ml. The cut-down nicquid then goes into a quarter-liter bottle. And that's my "working nicquid." Lasts me about four months.
 

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Well I'm a noob but I calculated that it was cheaper to get 100mg nicotine in 100% PG and then mix that down. My reasoning was A: I'll use less nicotine juice which is the most expensive component, B: it's made of PG which is the 2nd most expensive component, C: I can get VG really cheap at Walmart ($3.12? for 177 ml). When I did my calculations on RTS vapes (which is so far the cheapest I have seen) between using 100mg vs 60mg I realized that it was more money to use 60 than it was 100 because of the extra amount I'd have to use to get to 24 mg final nicotine strength. I suppose if you were a really low nicotine level user then it's possible it could be more cost effective to use a weaker strength nicotine juice. Well that's what I figured out and I'm going to live or die by it, as it were. Hope it helps.

I'm gonna throw this out there because I think it's a good place to start experimenting with DIY mixing, and it's 'way cheap: DIY PG Unflavored 36mg Nic Base 120ml Yes, it's low nic strength and relatively small quantity, but IMO it's a great way to get started while you're studying up. Now, I'm pretty new at all this stuff myself so if anyone has an issue with this supplier or this nic I hope you'll jump in here & point it out. Also, from my (very limited) understanding RTS is probably best of the best out there so please don't think I'm demeaning their product or company and I haven't checked to see if they offer a lower nic concentration.

Just please, be safe, have fun (carefully) mixing & Happy Vaping! :vapor:
 

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As related to your first post, I would agree with Warren (maybe it is a Carolina thing). Starting with a 36mg would probably be the safest route for getting your feet wet (not literally of course) with mixing and techniques for someone that has a history of nic exposure. But, please, still be careful of small drips and splatters that a non-nic may potentially contact. I have four "counter-surfer" cats so I mix in the garage. I still am always worried that my grandchildren, a stray pet, squirrel or raccoon may get exposed-so I am very careful - especially with cleanup.

@MostlyClassics, funny that I had been DIMing (Do It Myselfing) for quite some time and found this particular "cutting" suggestion on these forums about a year ago- was really a "duh" moment for me, especially since I use 500mg. It definitely cuts the risks.

To those new to the forums, keep coming back, there is always something to learn here.
 

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Definitely not recommended for the uninitiated so I am not recommending that anyone use any high concentrates. If the bottle has a skull and crossbones, a black box and a hazardous material rating it's a pretty good hint-- do not use unless you are very familiar with such hazards. For the record, I am medically trained and in medical lab research (think plagues and viruses). Even with this training I am still very cognizant, and cautious, of my focus and technique when using even low level nic liquids.
 

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Wow, Bradder! 500 mg./ml. would really cut down the storage space needed in my freezer!

Given my rudimentary lab technique, plus not having a multi-million CFM exhaust hood, there's no way I'm touching that rocket fuel!

Man, ditto that! Not without the best darn spacesuit I could steal from NASA, and probably a nice, smooth lunar surface on which to work! (Okay, call me paranoid... I prefer to be known as, "slow, methodical, patient, breathing,...") :vapor:
 

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Definitely not recommended for the uninitiated so I am not recommending that anyone use any high concentrates. If the bottle has a skull and crossbones, a black box and a hazardous material rating it's a pretty good hint-- do not use unless you are very familiar with such hazards. For the record, I am medically trained and in medical lab research (think plagues and viruses). Even with this training I am still very cognizant, and cautious, of my focus and technique when using even low level nic liquids.

In truth I thank the Lord for people like you, without whom people like me would surely perish. Or at the very least, have nothing to vape. Blessings from my cave! :toast:
 

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Hello everyone.

I hope everyone is doing well.

I am looking to start creating my own juices. Mainly for personal use and will probably give some out for free to the community for reviews. I want to know if its cheaper in the long run to make juice with 100mg base solutions or something less strong. If any of you are a real numbers type of person, can you show me some equations explaining how many ml of 24mg nic juice you can make with, both, 60ml/100mg, and 125ml/60mg?

I hope that makes sense because the last sentence does not make sense to me. DOH><

Thanks in advance.

Since I'm the math guy, here's your formula to get the amount of nic juice available:
Nic base strength (mg) / Target nic strength (mg) x Nic base volume (ml) = Final target volume (ml)

If you buy 125ml of 100mg nic juice and you want to dilute it to 18mg
100 / 18 x 125 = 694
You will have 694ml of 18mg nic juice
 
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