Why Get Less Than 100mg

[vaperature]

OK I just managed to score 120ml of 100mg nicotine solution from Wizard. I haven't actually started my DIY experiments yet but figure since it's available today, I'll get it and store it away until I'm ready.

My question is, they also offer different percentages of nicotine and I was wondering, besides the price, is there some reason you would want to use, say, 60mg solution? It seems to me that 100mg would simply be easier to calculate and, yeah, it's $5 more but that's really negligible when you think how much more you'd be able to make out of it.

 

[emus]

I'm very careful and work with 100mg. Extremely dangerous 100% is a typo?

 

[Stosh]

I like to buy 60mg nic liquid, makes it very simple to mix 1 part nic with 2 parts VG/PG to get 20mg to vape. I just buy 250 mL bottles of each, nic and PG and mix it up in an used glass 750 mL bottle I seem to have around a lot...(Makers Mark..)

 

[Train2]

The math might work out simpler, and with less concern over a spill, with other levels.
Especially since Wizard doesn't offer 50/50 PG/VG, it might be hard to hit your ratio with 100...
I started with 60, just to be a little more comfortable handling the stuff at first.

 

[vaperature]

Interesting guys. Thanks for the input.

 

[thatguy2]

myself, I buy 60 mg in 100% VG.. use it at 12 mg and 80/20 ratio..
20 ml of nic and 80 ml of PG makes 100 ml of base..
no need to buy and measure VG..
can't work them numbers with 100 mg..

 

[DetraMental]

I started out at 100mg nicotine, it is the cheapest route. Having attended college for registered nursing I was well aware of safety after all the biology/microbiology/chemistry classes I'd taken. Had to handle some pretty gnarly substances while out in the field too. But I can understand that for most beginners it is scary and it should be, it's toxic! So I can see both sides of this, just for me I went the 100mg the first time around. So far so good and I'm very very careful but even then I'm cautious of it, it's nothing to play with or use with oversight. My full attention is used while drawing up what I need and it's capped ASAP! My hands and any spills are cleaned ASAP. Even at 60mg I'd be cautious. Anything over what I'd vape would be treated with great respect. All of it would require quick clean-up and hand washing.

 

[vaperature]

I started out at 100mg nicotine, it is the cheapest route. Having attended college for registered nursing I was well aware of safety after all the biology/microbiology/chemistry classes I'd taken. Had to handle some pretty gnarly substances while out in the field too. But I can understand that for most beginners it is scary and it should be, it's toxic! So I can see both sides of this, just for me I went the 100mg the first time around. So far so good and I'm very very careful but even then I'm cautious of it, it's nothing to play with or use with oversight. My full attention is used while drawing up what I need and it's capped ASAP! My hands and any spills are cleaned ASAP. Even at 60mg I'd be cautious. Anything over what I'd vape would be treated with great respect. All of it would require quick clean-up and hand washing.

Thanks for the cautious advice. I do have some nice thick rubber gloves and some safety goggles. I got the nic in a pg solution. Wondering now if that was the best choice but this is my first time, so I'll live and learn. It might be a while before I actually start mixing anything so I'm sure I'll be back here with lots more questions. It's good to know there's somewhere to turn to for advice.

 

[thatguy2]

I started out at 100mg nicotine, it is the cheapest route. Having attended college for registered nursing I was well aware of safety after all the biology/microbiology/chemistry classes I'd taken. Had to handle some pretty gnarly substances while out in the field too. But I can understand that for most beginners it is scary and it should be, it's toxic! So I can see both sides of this, just for me I went the 100mg the first time around. So far so good and I'm very very careful but even then I'm cautious of it, it's nothing to play with or use with oversight. My full attention is used while drawing up what I need and it's capped ASAP! My hands and any spills are cleaned ASAP. Even at 60mg I'd be cautious. Anything over what I'd vape would be treated with great respect. All of it would require quick clean-up and hand washing.

hey, did you know that myfreedomsmokes sells peirceable caps and 14 gauge sharps? I use them with the 60 mg.. only have to uncap the bottle once to change the cap..

 

[Scott_Simpson]

I buy all my nic from WL, 100mg/ml in 100% VG. The first thing I do is cut it with 100% VG to my working strength of 20mg/ml. I put this "base" in 100ml glass bottles filled up to the neck and put them in my freezer until I'm ready to have a DIY session. Then I get out one 100ml bottle and work from there.

This does three things:

1. It minimizes the amount of time I'm handling the 100mg/ml nic. At this concentration, fumes and skin exposure can be quite dangerous, and I take all proper safety precautions at the stage when I'm diluting the 100mg/ml nic to working strength. (gloves, apron, eyewear, ventilation, handy sink, etc.)

2. It breaks a large plastic bottle (I buy 250ml of nic at a time) down into several smaller glass bottles. Easier to handle, and if—perish forbid—I should drop one, it's not quite such a disaster. Plus, amber glass bottles are much better for long-term storage.

3. Once a bottle of nic base is opened and partially used, it starts to deteriorate. By keeping my base in smaller bottles that will get used in a relatively short period of time once opened, my juices are always made with fresh nic.

Makes sense to me. YMMV

 

[vaperature]

Thanks for all the tips. I am going to be REALLY careful with this stuff. Luckily I live alone so I don't have to worry about anyone getting into it but me.

 

[Crunktanium]

Sometimes 100mg is sold out and many people vape really low percentages so they don't need to buy that much bulk.

If you are a hobby dripper 6mg or less might be more then enough and 120ml might last you months. I have a friend who never smoked cigs but vaped other stuff for years and now vapes with 0mg because he simply enjoys vaping.

 

[AthensGa]

I'm new to vaping and thought I"d give DIY a shot because it is so much cheaper, not to mention most of the flavors that I've seen on the vendors kind of match up with the flavors that the flavor sellers sell...hmm interesting phrasing but I'm sure you folks can decipher my meaning.

I'd really rather not kill myself in my newbie DIY attempts so I didn't buy any higher nicotine than I'd vape. With the sales going on over the weekend I picked up something like 2700 mls for $75 that should keep me in eliquid for at least a year possibly 2. Bottles are going to be an issue but lets deal with one problem at a time.

 

[billo]

Personally, I vape 36 mg, so I just order 36 mg. Then add a few drops of flavor which might knock it down to 32 mg. I can't tell the difference.

No mess, no measuring. Very simple.

Yes, you can save some money ordering 100 mg, but it's not much, and not worth my time or worrying about handling it.

DYI is incredibly cheaper than buying pre-mixed juices either way.

 

[Bryan lord]

I like 48 or 60...still saving money with less chance of accidental death.


-Lord

 

[retired1]

Edited the thread title to read 100mg rather than 100%. 100% nicotine base is 1000mg which is not allowed to be discussed on ECF.

 

[cramptholomew]

I use 48 and 60 - price at most places for 100mg is LOTS OF MONEYS. Wizard is usually out, so I buy from myfreedomsmokes. Their prices on 48 and 60 are reasonable.

 

[glasseye]

I buy 60mg because even though I know how to handle dangerous chemicals, I can be a bit clumsy and my dog is a big doofus. I like to make mixing a bit fun and not have to worry so much. I still practice safety and have the nic out only briefly.

 

[bingoking]

like athensga im going to diy soon..one because im not rich..and two i think those in power will try to do some thing because they are loosing so much tax money..i know i saw a thread{which are so darn many here] that talks about buying and storage..im quit anologs 8 weeks ago and am down to 14mg! BUT whether i go lower to zero or stay here at 14 i want enough nic to store and last me for awhile because
i figure the only thing the will go after is nic itself..

 

[Svt54]

I buy all my nic from WL, 100mg/ml in 100% VG. The first thing I do is cut it with 100% VG to my working strength of 20mg/ml. I put this "base" in 100ml glass bottles filled up to the neck and put them in my freezer until I'm ready to have a DIY session. Then I get out one 100ml bottle and work from there.

This does three things:

1. It minimizes the amount of time I'm handling the 100mg/ml nic. At this concentration, fumes and skin exposure can be quite dangerous, and I take all proper safety precautions at the stage when I'm diluting the 100mg/ml nic to working strength. (gloves, apron, eyewear, ventilation, handy sink, etc.)

2. It breaks a large plastic bottle (I buy 250ml of nic at a time) down into several smaller glass bottles. Easier to handle, and if—perish forbid—I should drop one, it's not quite such a disaster. Plus, amber glass bottles are much better for long-term storage.

3. Once a bottle of nic base is opened and partially used, it starts to deteriorate. By keeping my base in smaller bottles that will get used in a relatively short period of time once opened, my juices are always made with fresh nic.

Makes sense to me. YMMV

I was wondering about this myself. I bought some 60mg over the weekend. So it won't hurt anything if I go ahead and cut it down to my 18mg, and store it that way? Thought it would be easier and safer. Also, why the freezer? Does that help keep it from deteriorating?