DIY NET Thread

[boomerdude]

The Mocha was okay but nothing to wright home about. The Honey on the other hand is superb if you like honey. I think you had some to compare it to Poet & Scholar awhile ago.

Thing I find with Tatiana's is that they must really pour on the flavorings and casing or whatever because those flavors really come through big time. After steeping for a few weeks the cigar leaf comes through and that makes for a very pleasurable vape.

Anyway Merry Christmas to you and yours Jeremy. Is it your little one's first Christmas or second? Whichever, savor it, as I'm sure your tired of hearing that the years flash by and your children are off to College before you know it.

Yeah, something like all of that. I just DIY now and it's rarely tobacco. DIY got a stronghold on me. But I had been wondering about the Tatiana Cappuccino -- actually that one in conjunction with the Mocha. How was the mocha?

 

[Mr.Mann]

The Mocha was okay but nothing to wright home about. The Honey on the other hand is superb if you like honey. I think you had some to compare it to Poet & Scholar awhile ago.

Thing I find with Tatiana's is that they must really pour on the flavorings and casing or whatever because those flavors really come through big time. After steeping for a few weeks the cigar leaf comes through and that makes for a very pleasurable vape.

Anyway Merry Christmas to you and yours Jeremy. Is it your little one's first Christmas or second? Whichever, savor it, as I'm sure your tired of hearing that the years flash by and your children are off to College before you know it.

Oh yeah, I had some of he Honey and it was, well...

p.s. It was PS.

 

[boomerdude]

Finally! I managed to mix a juice from single varietal leaves. Several Virginia's, East Carolina, Cigar Leaf and Latakia. Taste great. Right up there with my favorites like Ashton Artisan, Pen Gap, Etc.

 

[b.m.]

I finally got some tatiana cigars to try out,i got the night cap,and have one soaking now.They smell fantastic,so hopefully it will taste good too haha.Also got some Missouri meercum (or however it's spelled )country gentleman,this one smells good too.Can't wait for these to finish,but they have only been soaking for like 4 days now,so i've got a long wait yet haha.

 

[Smocian257]

Finally! I managed to mix a juice from single varietal leaves. Several Virginia's, East Carolina, Cigar Leaf and Latakia. Taste great. Right up there with my favorites like Ashton Artisan, Pen Gap, Etc.

Thats the way to go IMO , aromatics and pre blended mixes with latakia can produce ADV but nothing fompares to mixing up your own from single varietals. Just crisper flavor.

 

[boomerdude]

I just got around to Night Cap. I suggest you steep the juice for a good long time. After a ten day steep mine is still not up to par as the other Tatiana's. Maybe needs a bit more concentrate 25%, maybe. Have to give it a good month of steeping before going there though.

I finally got some tatiana cigars to try out,i got the night cap,and have one soaking now.They smell fantastic,so hopefully it will taste good too haha.Also got some Missouri meercum (or however it's spelled )country gentleman,this one smells good too.Can't wait for these to finish,but they have only been soaking for like 4 days now,so i've got a long wait yet haha.

 

[b.m.]

I just got around to Night Cap. I suggest you steep the juice for a good long time. After a ten day steep mine is still not up to par as the other Tatiana's. Maybe needs a bit more concentrate 25%, maybe. Have to give it a good month of steeping before going there though.

Did you do a straight cold soak on that one,or heat assisted?All my other extracts i've done so far,i used heat,then let them sit,but these 2 i have started out with the cold method,so just curious if heat would help or hurt these ones.

 

[Ian444]

Finally! I managed to mix a juice from single varietal leaves. Several Virginia's, East Carolina, Cigar Leaf and Latakia. Taste great. Right up there with my favorites like Ashton Artisan, Pen Gap, Etc.

That's fantastic Boomer, you've been at that for about a year that I can remember, at last, success!!!

 

[boomerdude]

I heat the solvent PG to 150F add the tobacco and then cover it and put it away for a cold soak.

Did you do a straight cold soak on that one,or heat assisted?All my other extracts i've done so far,i used heat,then let them sit,but these 2 i have started out with the cold method,so just curious if heat would help or hurt these ones.

 

[miltiades]

Hello.

superb thread here !

A question if somebody of the originals can help.

I've run a series of Net all with the same method. Tobacco + Alchohol + PG using organic tobaccos from a local guy using heat extraction with warm bath for 20-30 min twice. I then filtered my NETs after steeping the mix for 7 days. I've noticed that the final concentrate is black and even after filtering i get a very harsh note back.

I plan to do a cold extraction again using alcohol as i think this dark color originates on the heating process. If i use the same mix Vodka-Tobacco-PG for how long you propose to let it steep ? And if a method is there of getting out the alcohol then without the need to heat the mix.

Many thanks

 

[boomerdude]

If your talking about unprocessed tobacco leaf when you say organic tobacco, then I don't think any method of extraction will improve the vape.

Most of us just extract cased or flavored pipe tobacco and cigars. I settled on initial heat followed by cold extraction as my preferred method and that's after 90+ extractions.

 

[miltiades]

Hello and thanks for the reply.

I've been able to source different tobacco leafs in the correct analogy that a cigar producer is using in order to create a cigar. So it's actually a Corona cigar though it's not yet created. From various heated extractions i've noticed (after a chemical analysis) that a lot of sugars (and gets a very dark color) are produced due to heat and alcohol used. Maybe it's the alcohol that creates the problem. I'll try a PG only extraction (heat assisted) and check again.

Concerning the steeping i also verify that it needs a long steep (15 to 21 days minimum). I've recently tasted one of my first extractions which was a Bolivar Royal Corona and it was excellent. The taste if far more rounded than in the first seven days of steeping.

Many thanks again.

 

[marc42]

Hello and thanks for the reply.

I've been able to source different tobacco leafs in the correct analogy that a cigar producer is using in order to create a cigar. So it's actually a Corona cigar though it's not yet created. From various heated extractions i've noticed (after a chemical analysis) that a lot of sugars (and gets a very dark color) are produced due to heat and alcohol used. Maybe it's the alcohol that creates the problem. I'll try a PG only extraction (heat assisted) and check again.

Concerning the steeping i also verify that it needs a long steep (15 to 21 days minimum). I've recently tasted one of my first extractions which was a Bolivar Royal Corona and it was excellent. The taste if far more rounded than in the first seven days of steeping.

Many thanks again.

the whole leaf cigars are lovely , like them individually and blended. [currently have 5 types brewing]
I just do my extraction by frying the leaves in a pan of pg and decanting into a jar to soak for a few weeks before filtering.[very basic filtering with a teabag currently!]
the flavour is nice even straight from the pan before decanting to soak, got no patience have to try them
complex earthy fruity all sort of nuances very subtle smooth and sophisticated vaping experience.
vape like a cigar smoker too not into inhaling .
use a KFL at 1.3 ,coil and wick life good too. 2.5-4 cc before a scrub and rewick.