DNA 200 not even close.......

[DroopyDroors]

So like I say in title. I must say for all the hype, the dna 200 is nothing but a subpar high wattage device with very sketchy temp control features. They wanted to be fancy with the escribe software but all it really does well is let you change your screens. I have been using temp control since its birth and imo evolv has always been my second choice and on this device they went the whole way to the back.

Like I think a lot of people I was excited to get the device and be able to customize and set it up the way I would like it to run through this amazing software they offer. And yes the software is amazing if it actually worked. The first thing I noticed is like some other devices it likes to drop out of temp mode anytime it senses a problem. This is so annoying when you have a big coil and have the preheat set at 150 watts and then running watts set at 80 - 100. It will work great one moment and then the next it wants to do its own thing. The thing that makes me more upset is you have an option in escribe to set a profile to run in temp mode but it will drop out and go right into wattage mode. Why have the setting if it doesn't do anything. So then you have an atty that is acting up so you put on an ohm lock and guess what........ you got it, the ohms still change. Sometimes the preheat works, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it wants to run in temp sometimes it doesn't. Its just sub par at best. The software is great, if you would like to sit in front of you pc and watch any stat that you can imagine, capture mistakes the device is actually making. But as far as having a good vaping device I would buy a different chip. The only saving grace this thing might have is the upgradeable firmware option. At first I thought is was something I was doing but working in the industry I can't tell you how many people are asking why their $200 device isn't working right. Also any of the rda's I have problems with I through on the sx350j and it works like a charm. So all I can say is I really wanted this chip to take over the temp control game and be a game changer but unfortunately its just another missed field goal.........

 

[MadMeathead]

I quite like mine. Aside from battery life.

 

[sd3614]

So like I say in title. I must say for all the hype, the DNA 200 is nothing but a subpar high wattage device with very sketchy temp control features. They wanted to be fancy with the escribe software but all it really does well is let you change your screens. I have been using temp control since its birth and imo evolv has always been my second choice and on this device they went the whole way to the back.

Like I think a lot of people I was excited to get the device and be able to customize and set it up the way I would like it to run through this amazing software they offer. And yes the software is amazing if it actually worked. The first thing I noticed is like some other devices it likes to drop out of temp mode anytime it senses a problem. This is so annoying when you have a big coil and have the preheat set at 150 watts and then running watts set at 80 - 100. It will work great one moment and then the next it wants to do its own thing. The thing that makes me more upset is you have an option in escribe to set a profile to run in temp mode but it will drop out and go right into wattage mode. Why have the setting if it doesn't do anything. So then you have an atty that is acting up so you put on an ohm lock and guess what........ you got it, the ohms still change. Sometimes the preheat works, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it wants to run in temp sometimes it doesn't. Its just sub par at best. The software is great, if you would like to sit in front of you pc and watch any stat that you can imagine, capture mistakes the device is actually making. But as far as having a good vaping device I would buy a different chip. The only saving grace this thing might have is the upgradeable firmware option. At first I thought is was something I was doing but working in the industry I can't tell you how many people are asking why their $200 device isn't working right. Also any of the RDA's I have problems with I through on the sx350j and it works like a charm. So all I can say is I really wanted this chip to take over the temp control game and be a game changer but unfortunately its just another missed field goal.........

It's good to hear another opinion.

So what is the brand/model mod you keep reaching for since this has not worked out as you expected? Your reference TC mod you have liked the most etc.

 

[spacetime]

What type of build were you running?

What type of wire?

 

[DroopyDroors]

It's good to hear another opinion.

So what is the brand/model mod you keep reaching for since this has not worked out as you expected? Your reference TC mod you have liked the most etc.

Personally I love just parallel mech boxes. The ones I use are my own and with mech boxes they just work every time. So that is my go to device. But if I'm wanting a change of pace, my go to on temp control is my dual 18650 YiHi SX350j. It is far better and I would say much more accurate and simple than the DNA and again it works every time unless there is a problem with the build. But I'm the regional manager of 4 soon to be 5 B&M locations in PA so I have no choice but to keep up with all devices and determine whether or not a certain product should be on the shelves. So as you can imagine when you sell a bunch of these devices you get to deal with all the problems the device has. Of course I put the DNA200 on the shelves because of all the hype and regardless of how the thing actually performs there are people that will buy it and say how amazing it is. I personally have been running one for about 3 weeks before I put it on the shelves and even though I knew I didn't like it and saw the problems, I had to because there were just too many people asking for it. And as I suspected many people are having issues of temp dropping, ohms jumping, lock not working, preheat being random. And then of course on top of all that you have to upload you own graphs for different temp control wires. And although I can create tcr's and upload them (I'm a bit of a computer geek) the average user doesn't want to do that. So I have a pc set up at each shop that with tcr's saved so we can upload them to customers devices if they want. And at the same time show them how to do it. Kind of like a training course. The problem is you get a coil running great with the tcr, its working great. You take it off and put a different RDA or tank on, go to a different profile, then when you go back to the first one and the profile you have set and its a train wreck, as though it forgot all the settings you put in. No more preheat, punch, wrong ohms (even if locked). Its just a total mess. it is not at all user friendly. If you don't like to fiddle with stuff ,do not buy this device, because you will spend more time trying to get it to work right than you will vaping on it.

What type of build were you running?

What type of wire?

Ive tried numerous builds, standard spaced, Clapton, high gauge, low gauge. It doesn't matter what build I use they all decide to act out at one point or another. But you take the exact same thing and put it on the sx and it runs fine.

ni200, Ti, Ss

Like is said this isn't my first rodeo I have used them all. And I mean all. The problem I am afraid of is from the business side. So you have people running the Evic VT with Ti coils and really like to vape and like temp control. They want to buy this device because they want to go to the next step in hardware and they keep hearing about this chip. Well good luck trying to get it to run like that device "Well sir, I'm going to need to see your device and upload this graph onto it. Then your going to have to go to profile 2. Now don't run it too high of a wattage because if it drops out of temp that Ti can be very dangerous to inhale." Its just to much for the average user. Most of the people that come in with them didn't even buy them from us!!! But I feel obligated to help so they don't end up hurting themselves. Personally as a company I have my people know to only sell them to people that understand what they are getting into. I just don't want to have to deal with returns because of it not working correctly.

 

[TheotherSteveS]

mine works great and Ive vape 'em all too including DNA40s, SX350Js and dicodes....

 

[footbag]

Mine hasn't popped out of TC mode, but I've heard it happen. We just need to figure out why. Maybe the build or deck isn't working properly. My Mutation X is finnicky on my SXMini.

I do really like the profiles because it lets you start vaping on a warm atty.

I really like Escribe.

I'm still using the beta firmware on the SXMini. But, I don't think the regulation is that good compared to the DNA. The DNA is so much smoother to drop the wattage. The Yihi gives a rattlesnakey noise.

I haven't had it long enough to compare to the Yihi, but it has a lot of plusses.

 

[jiphone]

User error...now flame me to oblivion... But all mine work flawlessly, and I love my sx minis too.

Personally I love just parallel mech boxes. The ones I use are my own and with mech boxes they just work every time. So that is my go to device. But if I'm wanting a change of pace, my go to on temp control is my dual 18650 YiHi SX350j. It is far better and I would say much more accurate and simple than the DNA and again it works every time unless there is a problem with the build. But I'm the regional manager of 4 soon to be 5 B&M locations in PA so I have no choice but to keep up with all devices and determine whether or not a certain product should be on the shelves. So as you can imagine when you sell a bunch of these devices you get to deal with all the problems the device has. Of course I put the DNA200 on the shelves because of all the hype and regardless of how the thing actually performs there are people that will buy it and say how amazing it is. I personally have been running one for about 3 weeks before I put it on the shelves and even though I knew I didn't like it and saw the problems, I had to because there were just too many people asking for it. And as I suspected many people are having issues of temp dropping, ohms jumping, lock not working, preheat being random. And then of course on top of all that you have to upload you own graphs for different temp control wires. And although I can create tcr's and upload them (I'm a bit of a computer geek) the average user doesn't want to do that. So I have a pc set up at each shop that with tcr's saved so we can upload them to customers devices if they want. And at the same time show them how to do it. Kind of like a training course. The problem is you get a coil running great with the tcr, its working great. You take it off and put a different RDA or tank on, go to a different profile, then when you go back to the first one and the profile you have set and its a train wreck, as though it forgot all the settings you put in. No more preheat, punch, wrong ohms (even if locked). Its just a total mess. it is not at all user friendly. If you don't like to fiddle with stuff ,do not buy this device, because you will spend more time trying to get it to work right than you will vaping on it.



Ive tried numerous builds, standard spaced, Clapton, high gauge, low gauge. It doesn't matter what build I use they all decide to act out at one point or another. But you take the exact same thing and put it on the sx and it runs fine.

ni200, Ti, Ss

Like is said this isn't my first rodeo I have used them all. And I mean all. The problem I am afraid of is from the business side. So you have people running the Evic VT with Ti coils and really like to vape and like temp control. They want to buy this device because they want to go to the next step in hardware and they keep hearing about this chip. Well good luck trying to get it to run like that device "Well sir, I'm going to need to see your device and upload this graph onto it. Then your going to have to go to profile 2. Now don't run it too high of a wattage because if it drops out of temp that Ti can be very dangerous to inhale." Its just to much for the average user. Most of the people that come in with them didn't even buy them from us!!! But I feel obligated to help so they don't end up hurting themselves. Personally as a company I have my people know to only sell them to people that understand what they are getting into. I just don't want to have to deal with returns because of it not working correctly.

 

[Car147]

Evolv chip on the shoulder by any chance lol, its the best board out there!

 

[TheotherSteveS]

well also OPs device may be faulty!

 

[lekixik]

Ok, Gotta agree on everything you said.

There's no point pretending the chip doesn't have faults it obviously has. Quite a few of these things have been giving me major grief.

I'm not an ecig vendor. I'm just a guy using this as his primary device. I upgraded from the DNA40 and these are the only temp control devices I own. I don't know anything about the alternatives you suggested.. but the problems you mentioned are definitely issues I'm struggling with.

The OP should not be shouted down for sharing a fair evaluation of the DNA200

 

[soulseek]

If it's dropping out of TC randomly even with Ti you either have a faulty 510 connection or a bad atomizer.

 

[VapingBad]

Mine have been rock solid performers, have never dropped out of temp limiting once. BTW they don't have a temp mode under the surface, but they will stop temp limiting if the temp doesn't increase by 150 F in the first second IIRC. If you have to use res lock with temp limiting then there is something wring with the build, wiring, atty or 510 it is much better to let the board refine the base res. Res lock is just a quick & cheap way for manufactures to avoid having the deal with these issues and it amazes me that it has become popular.

 

[TheotherSteveS]

Ok, Gotta agree on everything you said.

There's no point pretending the chip doesn't have faults it obviously has. Quite a few of these things have been giving me major grief.

I'm not an ecig vendor. I'm just a guy using this as his primary device. I upgraded from the DNA40 and these are the only temp control devices I own. I don't know anything about the alternatives you suggested.. but the problems you mentioned are definitely issues I'm struggling with.

The OP should not be shouted down for sharing a fair evaluation of the DNA200

I dont think anybody is shouting anyone down, it just seems that there are many, myself included, who dont have the OPs issues!

 

[ThunderDan]

I feel bad for unsuspecting customers in rural PA that take advice from this guy.

 

[lekixik]

Come on friend, it's coming.

We already have a full chorus of the "it's working for me" crowd.

It's great that you aren't having issues but I am. I agree with the OP and I don't think he is being unfair to express his concerns. We are joking ourselves if we think with nobody will try to shut him up. Let's please all chime in about how happy we are... maybe after that we can talk about the problems I'm having with this device

 

[DroopyDroors]

Well believe me there are plenty people that do have the issues. It's not the device. I've had to deal with people with the hcigar, boxer, and most recently the vaporshark all come in with the same issues. Yes I'm sure everyone has a problem with how they build, and everyone has a bad rda. Thats always what the evolv people say. I could give two ....s weather or not yours is working fine. For that matter I could give a .... if mine is working fine. I'm just being honest with what I'm seeing in the industry. I think it's funny how people replied saying that it's user error. Obviously they didn't even read all the posts or the would know it's not just one user. It is many. So everyone that I deal with is doing something wrong? All they are doing is trying to protect the evolv chip and say how great it is. I don't care who makes what in this industry. I just want it to work as described!! Proceed with saying I don't know what I'm talking about and your device is so perfect and it never has errors. Hahahaha

 

[DroopyDroors]

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[footbag]

What kind of coil are you running? I've found that simpler coils do a much better job with TC. Twisted Nickel is about as interesting as it gets for me. IF you are doing simple coils, it's possible that your box isn't working properly. A loose connection inside could be messing up the resistance readings.

Now, I started with the SXMini and only got the DNA200 recently. So I believe them when they say it's the RDA, and not the device. But, if one is working on the SX and not the DNA, something is wrong. What brand? Vaporshark, I'm assuming.

Honestly, EScribe is so awesome, that it makes the whole kit worth it. But, I don't have much to complain about. Mine seems to be working just as good as the SXMini, but with all of the additional features.

My only complaint is the battery life.

Also, your shop sounds cool. YOu can setup Escribe in the store for people. That sounds good in practice, but they really should understand TC. The DNA isn't a beginner device. If a person, doesn't want to learn a bit, they shouldn't buy the DNA. I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about your customers.

 

[ThunderDan]

And this guy would sell you ..... Send you out the door. And have his shop closed up in about 6 months. So ya your a piece of ..... I don't have to say anything to any of my guests they all come in .....ing already. At least I try to help them. Not like you. With 2 evolv dna200 shoved so far up your ... that you can't see there are problems. Thats all.

Again, I feel bad for customers that take advice from you, I don't mean that as a personal attack, so thanks for the name calling. I wouldn't mind stopping by one of your shops to see this type of level headed, mature behavior in person. I'd also like to see some of your mech boxes, I like custom mech boxes, if they are truly mechanical and not just an unregulated box with wires and mosfets.