DNA 200 Watt
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Busardo tries and does a much more thorough job than most anyone else out there but I found myself criticizing him during the 3 DNA200 vids he just released in a few spots.
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What grabbed me was how opinion (read, bias and prejudice) become Gospel.
For instance: I have two K4's that have performed flawlessly in TC, with no variation, as attested in my experience AND eScribe. It's all about knowing how to setup the K4, or any device.
He had a pre-release version of Escribe, it will probably be on the Evolv forum soon.
Yes, 1.0.34 is downloadable now in the forum. Did not show up yet in auto download in Escribe software. I'm waiting on my just ordered Volcano LavaBox DNA200. So I'm just playing with the software on my old Mac, running Snow Leopard, and Windows XP, in Parallels. I didn't realize the only DNA 200 preset was for Nickle wire.
So my question regarding saving CSV files from Steam Engine site, is do you have to create a different wire profile for the various size AWG wire and wraps etc. For example I create a Titanium wire wizard file, and select gauge, amount of coils etc., but do I need to create a different one if I change gauge and amount of coils not wire type? My IPV D2, simply has two GENERIC settings, one for Nickle and one for Titanium, not for specific builds.
And what about using different brands of Titanium wire, most do not have CSV files for their wire, so in steam engine I simply select "Titanium G1". Right now I'm using Unkaman brand Titanium wire and will look around for a generic CSV file if I can find one. A bit confused about creating custom wire profiles!
So my question regarding saving CSV files from Steam Engine site, is do you have to create a different wire profile for the various size AWG wire and wraps etc. For example I create a Titanium wire wizard file, and select gauge, amount of coils etc., but do I need to create a different one if I change gauge and amount of coils not wire type? My IPV D2, simply has two GENERIC settings, one for Nickle and one for Titanium, not for specific builds.
And what about using different brands of Titanium wire, most do not have CSV files for their wire, so in steam engine I simply select "Titanium G1". Right now I'm using Unkaman brand Titanium wire and will look around for a generic CSV file if I can find one. A bit confused about creating custom wire profiles!
Mactavish,
First don't let the concept of setting up for different wire confuse you.
1. Steam Engine will create the CSV files for you for any wire listed in his table.
2. Just upload the CSV file you create in Steam Engine to the profile tab you select.
3. Wire size or length doesn't matter the TCR is the same regardless of those parameters. They are on there but used for different answers that S.E. gives you.
4. You can also just add the TCR value into eScribe and it will calculate a three point curve for you no CSV file required.
5. I use 0.0035 or 0.0034 for Titanium so for that one I just use the TCR value. S.E. uses 0.00366 and that produces too much heat for my liking.
6. I don't know about all this different CSV files for different brands of wire Ti Grade 1 should be the same regardless of of whom you buy it from. (this comment will draw flack but it is the truth). If it is not than vendor is not telling the truth about their wire "Grade".
7. I am not sure what you mean by generating a custom wire profile. If you use Steam Engine it will do all the legwork for you or if you know the TCR value of the wire you want to use you can plug it into eScribe and just use the curve it generates.
8. Steam Engine calls the TCR the TFR (I believe) but they are both the same thing with different names.
Feel free to PM me if you want. Also (again a flack request) remember that Evolv chose Ni because it has very good temperature control qualities i.e. base resistance and TCR. The only other metal I would use is Titanium i.e. better base resistance but not as good a TCR value (lower TCR). The rest of the wire that people use is just pie in the sky and part of the endless search for Utopia. (God am I going to catch He!! for that statement).
Jazz,
I have been on the Utopia Vapor hunt for a couple of years now. While it may be safe it does get costly with time. But I have drawn the line at buying wire from Europe that claims to be Grade 2 Titanium that thru some secret process they make it into Grade 1 and not only that but it produces more vapor and enhances the taste of you juice and makes your battery last longer. And if you buy today we will through in a set of Ginsu knives and you will get all of this for only $29.95 plush shipping and handling.
Mactavish,
First don't let the concept of setting up for different wire confuse you.
1. Steam Engine will create the CSV files for you for any wire listed in his table.
2. Just upload the CSV file you create in Steam Engine to the profile tab you select.
3. Wire size or length doesn't matter the TCR is the same regardless of those parameters. They are on there but used for different answers that S.E. gives you.
4. You can also just add the TCR value into eScribe and it will calculate a three point curve for you no CSV file required.
5. I use 0.0035 or 0.0034 for Titanium so for that one I just use the TCR value. S.E. uses 0.00366 and that produces too much heat for my liking.
6. I don't know about all this different CSV files for different brands of wire Ti Grade 1 should be the same regardless of of whom you buy it from. (this comment will draw flack but it is the truth). If it is not than vendor is not telling the truth about their wire "Grade".
7. I am not sure what you mean by generating a custom wire profile. If you use Steam Engine it will do all the legwork for you or if you know the TCR value of the wire you want to use you can plug it into eScribe and just use the curve it generates.
8. Steam Engine calls the TCR the TFR (I believe) but they are both the same thing with different names.
Feel free to PM me if you want. Also (again a flack request) remember that Evolv chose Ni because it has very good temperature control qualities i.e. base resistance and TCR. The only other metal I would use is Titanium i.e. better base resistance but not as good a TCR value (lower TCR). The rest of the wire that people use is just pie in the sky and part of the endless search for Utopia. (God am I going to catch He!! for that statement).
Thanks for taking your time for such an in depth response. I'm sure I'll be back with more questions. I'll try making a TCR curve next. I remember the debate in the Titanium thread on what the TCR for G1 Ti, being either 0.0034 or 0.0035. Someone else using Unkaman Ti, had good luck with 0.0035, so I'll use that.
so angry. my board bit it after 6 days. I am sure it is gone. luckily there is no shortage now. I mean this happens(to me) but do not let it deter you. it is a fine board. most technologically advanced that actually works right now. 350j gives me some more throat hit but either are the top two boards now imo.
Was the board in a prebuilt mod or in a mod u built yourself? Just curious
I just watched part of the online DNA200 tutorial. In video mode that is narrated.
The part about adding TCR curves says that just using a TCR number, like for Titanium 0.0035, one would get a less accurate curve, a very linear line, I did this and see just a graph with a single divider line. The SteamEngine downloaded curve is better but as has been noted is based on a TCR of 0.0036. Guess I'll try both as well as the available Sweet Spot curve for 0.40 wire, even though I'm using Unkaman titanium wire.
So is entering a single TCR number manually not as good as a true curve?
The part about adding TCR curves says that just using a TCR number, like for Titanium 0.0035, one would get a less accurate curve, a very linear line, I did this and see just a graph with a single divider line. The SteamEngine downloaded curve is better but as has been noted is based on a TCR of 0.0036. Guess I'll try both as well as the available Sweet Spot curve for 0.40 wire, even though I'm using Unkaman titanium wire.
So is entering a single TCR number manually not as good as a true curve?
@Mactavish It depends on both, the wire and personal taste. ATM I like the SE curves for everything except SS 430 for which I prefer the linear TCR.
Also depends on how much of the overall temp range you use. I generally stay between 450 to 500 F. I usually change temps by 10 and often 20 degrees F for warmer/cooler preference as I feel like at the moment. A small non-linearity in the actual TCR curve of the wire within my vape temp range is something I would never notice.
You beat me to it MS,
If you look at the Steam Engine curve (which in my opinion run too hot with Ti his TCR is 0.00366 I use 0.0035) the difference in the operating range is just hardly anything. Unless you allow the thought that more points on the curve is going to give you a better vape. I am with you I sure won't notice 5 or 10 degrees change.
Thanks guys, I sucked at math and charts. Guess I see what you both mean, it's the Temp at the graph points that matter. My first TC mod is the IPV D2, and it has no settings other then profiles for Nickle and Titanium. I find I vape at around 500 degrees F, on my Subtank mini RBA with a 6 wrap, 26 gauge titanium Unkaman wire, at about .28 ohms. Funny having software, but NO mod yet, Volcano LavaBox DNA200 hopefully will come this week, and I can upload these settings.
Any other basic setting I should concentrate on learning before I get my mod, like pre-fire temp etc.?
THANKS for the help, I'm entering into a new chapter with this tech!
Any other basic setting I should concentrate on learning before I get my mod, like pre-fire temp etc.?
THANKS for the help, I'm entering into a new chapter with this tech!
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