DNA 200 Watt

[druckle]

does the dna200 have to be used with a lipo? i mean the snowwolf is a 200w TC device that uses 2x18650s. I personally wouldnt mind a chunkier vaporshark that used 2x18650s rather than have a LiPo in there, and im sure others would think the same. People who are going to be buying 200W box mods dont really put form factor and portability at the top of their lists.

I think the dna 200 needs 3 18650's

 

[YMe1121]

so for those of us with DNA 40 mods now, will there be a way to put a DNA200 in it, or am i going to have to buy a new mod....again lol...

 

[AtmizrOpin]

LOL if I hear anymore Lipo schmipo talk I'm gonna bite into one as hard as I can! More than half this thread has been about whether Lipo's are safe or not. Can we get someone who actually knows about em to lay this to rest. I wanna learn more about the DNA 200's functions, like what are the lowest parameters of of resistance you can set it to in both kanthal and ni200.

 

[druckle]

How about we put away safety issues and just talk about board features and system usability?

Duane

 

[KTMRider]

so for those of us with DNA 40 mods now, will there be a way to put a DNA200 in it, or am i going to have to buy a new mod....again lol...

Highly unlikely. The board dimensions are very different than the DNA40.

I'll most likely buy the VS DNA200 or another built mod first before trying to build my own.

 

[KTMRider]

How about we put away safety issues and just talk about board features and system usability?

Duane

They can't help themselves. They insist on arguing on an internet forum to show how superior they are.

 

[alicewonderland]

I think the DNA 200 needs 3 18650's

why on earth... couldnt we just get a 100w or 150w with 2x18650s. Ive heard many good things about the chip in the snowwolf200w mod (2x18650s), what is it about the dna200 board that requires 3x18650s? This is the first chip i heard of that requires that, if it's true. thjats just ridiculous.

 

[Jazzman]

does the dna200 have to be used with a lipo? i mean the snowwolf is a 200w TC device that uses 2x18650s. I personally wouldnt mind a chunkier vaporshark that used 2x18650s rather than have a LiPo in there, and im sure others would think the same. People who are going to be buying 200W box mods dont really put form factor and portability at the top of their lists.

not exactly sure what mod or battery this was though. but it was on ecr as a summer PSA of a dude who left his mod in his car, and from the gist of what I have so far, lipo batteries are unsafer than li-ion batteries. Maybe im dumb oh well, but that's my choice of not wanting to purchase any more LiPo mods, moreso mainly because I want to be able to change batteries on the fly and dont want to mess with new chargers/LiPo batteries myself.

From what information has been released, no, it can be powered by 3 18650s. That would just mean a bigger mod for those that don't trust LiPos. So no worries if you are LiPo phobic.

 

[USMCotaku]

LiPo has advantages and disadvantages, it's not better in every aspect. For example, one trade-off with LiPo is lower cycle life in certain applications. Depending on what the mod is designed to do, Lithium Ion batteries may be a much better choice than LiPo from an engineering perspective. Remember also that LiPo has been used before in mods (e.g., Innokin MVP), but despite that 18650s have remained quite popular.

18xxx and 26xxx batteries are popular because of mechs. Modders were by and large building around that platform because they were already widely in use.

 

[AtmizrOpin]

Who the h*'ll gets to beta tests these? Like how do you get "chosen" to test one of these. I guess you have to have a huge following on YouTube or FB etc. Or be a known mod builder?

 

[alicewonderland]

From what information has been released, no, it can be powered by 3 18650s. That would just mean a bigger mod for those that don't trust LiPos. So no worries if you are LiPo phobic.

thats crazy. I've seen some triple 18650 mods but theyre mainly unregulated and huge already, add the dna200 board in there and thats a monster size mod lol.

 

[KTMRider]

why on earth... couldnt we just get a 100w or 150w with 2x18650s. Ive heard many good things about the chip in the snowwolf200w mod (2x18650s), what is it about the dna200 board that requires 3x18650s? This is the first chip i heard of that requires that, if it's true. thjats just ridiculous.

I'm gonna guess the Snowwolf can't really do 200w, especially with only 2 18650's (8.4v).

 

[druckle]

why on earth... couldnt we just get a 100w or 150w with 2x18650s.

I was hoping for 60 watts...with thermal coefficient of resistivity support, replaceable batteries so I could have extras available if one needed to be replaced or I was out hiking the mountains. All the other neat computer configuration turns me on as a gadget freak but I'd have been able to live without it.

Since we have 200 watts...I'm hoping one or more mod manufacturers will create a robust replaceable 3s LiPo package. Then I'd be a happy camper. Perfect usability for me.

Duane

 

[KTMRider]

Who the h*'ll gets to beta tests these? Like how do you get "chosen" to test one of these. I guess you have to have a huge following on YouTube or FB etc. Or be a known mod builder?

Hint: you need knee pads

 

[alicewonderland]

I'm gonna guess the Snowwolf can't really do 200w, especially with only 2 18650's (8.4v).

when it goes over 150W I think, its a controlled 'pulse firing'.

to be honest it seems like dna200 is tryign to do too much with one package. I'ts not going to be temp controlled up to 200w is it? If they wanted to get into the watts war they should have just made a refined 70-100w temp control mod, instead of trying to stick high wattage and TC all of that into one board, then be restricted to LiPo only mods. Seems like they are reaching too far.

 

[AtmizrOpin]

Hint: you need knee pads

Oh dam it's like that?! Looks like I'll never be a beta tester. However my girlfriend's decent lookin, maybe she'll take one for the team.

 

[KTMRider]

when it goes over 150W I think, its a controlled 'pulse firing'.

I just saw the specs for it. Output is .5v to 7v. Not very impressive. Evolv has always put out a clean signal. I wouldn't expect any less with the DNA200 and to do it right requires 11.1v.

 

[USMCotaku]

I can't believe the amount of fools in this thread right now. Fools that believe LiPos are evil and can't be used in a safe and effective manner. Guys like @tchavei that is spreading rumors about RC heli guys charging cells beyond 4.2v. Sorry, being an RC heli guy for more than 20 years, and dealing with LiPos in RC helis for the last 10 I know you are full of crap. There isn't a single mainstream charger out there for LiPos for RC heli use that doesn't cut off at 4.2v/cell and as long as a balance charge is used monitor each cell individually keeping the charge voltage between cells at less than .2v. Even a cheap 39.95 charger will do that. If your "friend" charged above 4.2v on any cell he had some homebrew charger that he cobbled together in his garage and didn't have a purpose made charger for RC use. I believe Evolv does have a purpose made charger for LiPo use, and will not present the issues your "friend's" homebrew charger does.

The LiPo argument is just BS in it's entirety since we have years of data on mods like the MVP that have been using them successfully in the real vapers world without serious issue. I haven't heard this argument leveled against the MVP line, but all of the sudden it's an issue for Evolv? Please, think about it for a minute or two. The Evolv DNA200 has a balance charger on board to specifically prevent the issues many are saying will occur. It just won't. LiPo charging is not in it's infancy and the tried and true CC/CV method of charging with balancing between cells is robust, safe and has been used for many years in many different industries and hobby uses. And it has proven to be not the unsafe fire hazard that some here are purporting it to be. It is a mature tech that been proven over time.

I do understand that many people are ignorant of how LiPo charging works and all the safety measures good charging algorithms and monitoring entail. And I would encourage those folks to at least google how this is done before making uninformed speculation on the dangers of LiPo technology. I can tell you that if it is as many have unintelligently presented here really existed, it would not be a mainstream tech for phones, notebooks, RC hobbies, and yes, vape products. Please speak from an informed perspective before coming to an erroneous conclusion.

I stopped barking up that particular tree

 

[alicewonderland]

maybe itll perform well, but I would have rather preferred something with user-changeable batteries and compact (2x18650 mods are pretty big already). Even if it did perform well, I wouldnt buy a big chunky 3x18650 mod. I'm not here arguing about the performance of the mods, im just against the board because it's basically pidgeonholed into LiPo only mods. I really think evolv made a mistake putting this board out, who even vapes constantly at 200watts. I know a people with sigelei 150s who dont even go near the 150w mark, and people who will buy this for TC have no use for the full 200W.

most people who build super subohm and use high wattage dont even go to 200w, and aren't really interested in TC. Most people who are interested in TC find it ridiculous to vape at 200w they are trying to mash together two things that dont fit.

TC range on the snowwolf is up to 70watt I believe as well.

 

[Cotay]

There is no reason that a LiPo cannot be user changeable. Simply wire it up with an XT30, XT60 or Deans (or any number of the other varieties of connectors) for an easy swap out.