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DNA and dicode chips

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  1. tara81

    tara81 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 13, 2014
    canada
    Just curious if anyone can explain what they are , why they are good and more expensive then mods like vapresso with the omniboard chip ? Or is it all subjective? Or if anyone can give me a link with all the functions of dna and dicode chips that would be great too, I cannot seem to find anything
     
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  2. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    I don't know the terminology of all what is so great about that, I can only give you my lived experience that my DNA mod has some of the smoothest vape around, it's also rather gifted at TC.

    Whether it is worth the price to YOU, I can only guess. I get decent TC out of some of my higher end mods that are not DNA and absolutely a good vape. I am rather fond of Teslacig's board for example. It's not a DNA.

    I also like my Smoant Clyon my Eleaf Invoke and my Geekvape legend and it's not like I LOVE DNA mods so much I feel the need to vape them exclusively and some of my FAVORITE mods don't even have TC.

    I don't know that there is some electrical explanation that makes them better, well *I* don't know of one but there is probably one.

    Anna
     
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  3. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dec 14, 2013
    NE FL
    Evolv is an American company and makes all their boards here, in the USA. Evolv also invented Wattage Control (and they have a patent to prove it), Temperature Control, and most recently, a feature called Replay. They have been the leader in power control innovations for vaping since 2010. It seems like they are always a step ahead of everyone else.

    Dicodes is a German company and makes all their products in Germany. I don't see them as quite the technological leader that Evolv is, but they certainly make a very high-quality product and don't do it in a Chinese factory...
     
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  4. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    Evolv has been a leader for innovative regulating chips for years. First with the Darwin mod (the first variable wattage mod) and then the Kick drop in module for mechanical mods. The DNA chip by Evolv has carried on the tradition. It was the first to do wattage control and Temp Control and does it very well.

    My current mod uses the DNA75 chipset (my first DNA). I've noticed superior battery efficiency and arguably a "smoother" vape, and I don't even use TC.

    What is so special about the DNA chip? (Reuleaux DNA 200 vs ...
    Are DNA 200 Mods Worth ALL That Money? | - VapeBeat
    Why a DNA is Worth the Money – Vaping The Way
    DNA30 – What's the Deal? | onVaping
    Evolv DNA 75 Capabilities & DNA 75 Box Mods - Vaping360

    Provari owners would/will argue that their Provari gave a "smoother vape". The owners of DNA devices have said the same. Old article:
    The Rattlesnake Effect- Why the Cheapo VV [Exception Itaste MVP ...





     
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  5. Doffy

    Doffy Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 15, 2014
    Australia
    dicodes is the smoothest vape outside a mech

    TC is reportedly the most accurate too

    but that smooth, smooth vape :wub:

     
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  6. mackman

    mackman Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 19, 2013
    NorCal
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  7. Zaryk

    Zaryk Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 25, 2018
    Ohio
    DNA chips also can be customized with a computer program called escribe. It gives you a lot more control over how the chip works than any other chipsets out there. You have access to options that only manufacturers have on other boards. With the newer DNA color boards (75c and 250c) you can also fully customize the layout of the screen (what is displayed, what colors all the text is, what is in the menus, and backgrounds).
     
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  8. DaveP

    DaveP PV Master & Musician ECF Veteran

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    May 22, 2010
    Central GA
    Years ago there were discussions on ECF about frequency and waveforms in electronic ecig mods. Frequency turned out to be most important for a smooth vape, IMO. The higher the frequency of the synthesized voltage the smoother the vape and you could tell which ones used higher frequencies to approximate a DC voltage. There were square wave, triangle wave, and various other designs in the race for the perfect vape with variable voltage.

    That BTW, was the reason that mech mods were king at one time. Mech mods utilize direct DC voltage straight from the battery to the coil through a fire switch. DC is king in terms of vape quality. Mod makers used various waveforms and voltage synthesizer chips to achieve a mech-like vape that allowed variable voltage, wattage, and eventually temperature control.

    As the technology advanced chips were designed especially for vaping and could be programmed in ROM to deliver most any waveform. After that, it was more about cost, patents, features, and pricing.
     
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  9. DaveP

    DaveP PV Master & Musician ECF Veteran

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    May 22, 2010
    Central GA
    I remember those days! Ecig reviewers were showing us oscilloscope screen shots to explain why one mod produced a better vape than others.

    If I remember correctly, Provari used an 800hz oscillator to get closer to DC voltage. Some were 200hz and others were 400hz mods. Rattlesnake was used to describe the sound at the drip tip for some. Provari was a smooth sizzle!
     
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  10. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    The Different Types of Power In E-Cigs
    Better Vape From One APV Over Another? | E-Cigarette Forum
    Why do my two mods vape so differently? | E-Cigarette Forum
     
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  11. bombastinator

    bombastinator ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    I don’t know much about dicodes stuf other than its both pretty and wildly expensive. My memory about DNA stuff is that they did all the research for TC in the first place. A bunch of Chinese companies tried to copy them but couldn’t get close. Then someone finally just attempted to simply steal their tech. At that point Chinese mods got a lot better, and a lot of them have actually usable TC. Still not as good as DNA, but a lot closer for a lot less money. Evolve has now come out with replay, a drastically simpler and easier to use type of TC, and evolv at this point is the only one that has it.

    I don’t bother using TC on any of my mods except the therion bf (dna75c) because even though it might be functionally accurate it’s still too complex. Replay is easy.
     
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  12. DaveP

    DaveP PV Master & Musician ECF Veteran

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    May 22, 2010
    Central GA
    Even today you can screw a 510 cartomizer on a Provari V2 and get a really good vape!

    These days we want adjustability in voltage, power, ramp, and temperature and we can get that in lots of mods. DNA (among other high end mods) ensures one other important parameter ... Accuracy.
     
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  13. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    Only if you can still find a 510 cartomizer. ;) (But I do agree with you.)
     
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  14. DaveP

    DaveP PV Master & Musician ECF Veteran

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    May 22, 2010
    Central GA

    I have several boxes of 2 ohm Boge cartos in my FDA stash! I juiced one up the a couple of months ago, tried it, and went back to my Hcigar DNA75/Kayfun 2. Go figure! Not bad, but it didn't beat my Kayfun 2 or my Doggy Style attys.
     
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  15. Ryedan

    Ryedan ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 31, 2012
    Ontario, Canada
    That was my experience a couple of years ago too. I know some folks still love cartos, but that's not me. I sold my small stash of them and put the few bucks I got for them into another Doggy. Worked for both of us :thumb:
     
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  16. VapourFlavour

    VapourFlavour Moved On

    Oct 16, 2018
    Ontario, Canada
    Two words, replay mode :) it's changed my whole vaping experience. You find that perfect vape and lock it in. Seriously, all around it's worth the investment. Even if you chose not to use replay, there's no delay when you hit that fire button and overall safety and vape satisfaction are top notch. I still take a Legend with me when not at home and it's very good for what it is, but when I use the dna mod you notice the subtle differences.
     
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  17. barkfunklerbunk

    barkfunklerbunk Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 13, 2014
    Planet Earth
    Damn.. I've been looking into regulated mods.. might just stick with my trusty mechs. Didn't realize how complicated chips were, and how different one was from others.
     
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  18. DaveP

    DaveP PV Master & Musician ECF Veteran

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    May 22, 2010
    Central GA
    Regulated mods these days are plug and play for the most part. Power (wattage) mode just lets you turn the power up and down to find the perfect vape. Once you decide what's best for you it never changes. It's kind of like turning up the volume on the TV until it's just right. If you change atomizers it produces the voltage that produces the vape you like. 10 watts is 10 watts no matter what the resistance of the coil is.
     
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