DNA40 vs SX350j

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Your comparing what? What am I missing here?
Vlad your avatar trips me out. Everytime I see you post I picture your avatar puffing on a SX Mini M Class and it exploded on him and that's why he looks like he does :lol: I'm not saying a SX Mini will ever explode but for some reason that just pops up in my head
 
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Vlad your avatar trips me out. Everytime I see you post I picture your avatar puffing on a SX Mini M Class and it exploded on him and that's why he looks like he does :lol: I'm not saying a SX Mini will ever explode but for some reason that just pops up in my head

I picked up Vlad as an online ID along time ago "Vlad the Impaler" Should be somewhat gruesome shouldn't he. :)
 

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I picked up Vlad as an online ID along time ago "Vlad the Impaler" Should be somewhat gruesome shouldn't he. :)
It was gruesome how Vlad the Impaler died, well depending on which story one chooses to believe. I think there are 5 to 6 variations of his death. If that is his head preserved in honey then that is pretty gruesome :shock:
 
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Do we need another thread to be DNA40 vs SX350j vs Joytech VT?

If we want to discuss who has violated whose TC ideas, from what I am seeing with the new eVic-VT they are using their own chip but seems to be much more closer to the Evolve DNA40 than the Yihi 350J.
 
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I can say Joyetech wouldn't have released the eVic VT if they thought there was the slightest chance they'd be taken to court. They're still the biggest single player in the vaping world, if you count eLeaf and iSmoka. That's a lot of assets to go after, including retail stores in Europe (under the Ovale brand).
 

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Not quite all. It's a very very simplistic conceptual discussion and in the end there's a reason why it took 5 years before it actually made it into a product -- it's not anywhere near that easy.

Anyone notice the mention of self-calibration? :)

Maybe there's a reason why it took years to make it into an e-cig product, but from the perspective of IP law that's often not relevant. For example, prior to the e-cigarette industry, there has been a lot of effort to develop electronic inhalers for the medical industry (as aerosols are a very effective method of rapid drug delivery). Such electronic inhalers described the use of positive/negative temperature coefficients in materials to control heating elements and also described the application of electronic inhalers for nicotine supplementation. If those inventions failed to develop from ideas to actual products, there can be a lot of commercial reasons for that (e.g., lack of investors, bad management) wholly apart from the merits of the ideas.

It's fairly typical to find multiple patents from different inventors describing how to solve a problem well before a commercial product is a success. Temperature control is not an exception to that, as noted by the above cited material. Evolv and other companies should be commended for their commercial success with TC-enabled e-cigerattes, but their commercial success comes well after many others have proposed ways of using the general principle of temperature control for such purposes.
 

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Yihi also has a patent... Gravity Sensor and Shaking Control System..... but no patents for Power regulation that I can find.. and they are now saying (News Statement of 5/22/2015) they will protect their rights (copyright, trademark, and patent). Ironic don't ya think....

SXmini M Class (TEMP CONTROL) | Page 209 | E-Cigarette Forum
 

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Maybe there's a reason why it took years to make it into an e-cig product, but from the perspective of IP law that's often not relevant. For example, prior to the e-cigarette industry, there has been a lot of effort to develop electronic inhalers for the medical industry (as aerosols are a very effective method of rapid drug delivery). Such electronic inhalers described the use of positive/negative temperature coefficients in materials to control heating elements and also described the application of electronic inhalers for nicotine supplementation. If those inventions failed to develop from ideas to actual products, there can be a lot of commercial reasons for that (e.g., lack of investors, bad management) wholly apart from the merits of the ideas.

It's fairly typical to find multiple patents from different inventors describing how to solve a problem well before a commercial product is a success. Temperature control is not an exception to that, as noted by the above cited material. Evolv and other companies should be commended for their commercial success with TC-enabled e-cigerattes, but their commercial success comes well after many others have proposed ways of using the general principle of temperature control for such purposes.

Yeah and it could be a coincidence that the industry suddenly widely released TC independently exactly one cloning/reverse engineering cycle after Evolv released it.

And made it look and work just like the Evolv product, in many cases, or marketed it just like the Evolv product. Coincidentally.
 

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Yeah and it could be a coincidence that the industry suddenly widely released TC independently exactly one cloning/reverse engineering cycle after Evolv released it.

And made it look and work just like the Evolv product, in many cases, or marketed it just like the Evolv product. Coincidentally.

Look and work more reliably and in a far less annoying fashion than the Evolv product.*
 

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Yeah and it could be a coincidence that the industry suddenly widely released TC independently exactly one cloning/reverse engineering cycle after Evolv released it.

And made it look and work just like the Evolv product, in many cases, or marketed it just like the Evolv product. Coincidentally.

I have yet to see a TC-enabled mod that works anything like Evolv's approach. Just looking at the Oscope captures on pbusardo's videos, one can see they are all quite different in how they approach temperature control.
 
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