Do You Believe In Aliens or UFOs?

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Kelly79

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Oh. My. God.

"Lack of evidence does equal lack of existence."

Completely unsupportable. Did the North and South American continents not exist until evidence of them was discovered? Did the outer planets not exist until evidence of them was discovered? Did other galaxies not exist until evidence of them was discovered?

And YET AGAIN, let's make this clear. NO ONE HERE HAS CLAIMED THAT LIFE EXISTS ON OTHER PLANETS. All we've said is that we BELIEVE it does. How many more times are you going to make me say that? Stop putting words in our mouths. Stop attributing arguments to us that we NEVER MADE.

Heck I haven't even said I believe they do exist, only that I don't disbelieve either.
 

Robert

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I believe- Angels,Aliens,Droped off,InterBreeding,Evolution,SpaceMen,it's all true!
just try to believe at little at a time-
this is too much for some- like 48mg

Galielo sp? was imprisoned because he knew the Earth wasn't the center of the universe- it could not be proven that the bible and the church were wrong- or accepted even if they knew- $$$$

So saying you can't prove something that is highly probable just makes you look stupid when it is finally shown to be the truth.
 
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I do not believe that Gashin exists.
There is NO EVIDENCE! All of the posts under that name are probably just a computer negativity response bot. No real person could be that naieve.
No photograph of Gashin would suffice as proof.
If a person were standing before me in real life claiming to be Gashin I still would not believe. If that person had 10 forms of ID I still would not believe, it was all just faked evidence. NOTHING that he/she/it does or says will make me believe.
Nice try but...
Gashin is merely an illusion.
 

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I do not believe that Gashin exists.
There is NO EVIDENCE! All of the posts under that name are probably just a computer negativity response bot. No real person could be that naieve.
No photograph of Gashin would suffice as proof.
If a person were standing before me in real life claiming to be Gashin I still would not believe. If that person had 10 forms of ID I still would not believe, it was all just faked evidence. NOTHING that he/she/it does or says will make me believe.
Nice try but...
Gashin is merely an illusion.

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I come from a biological science background -........................ on theories and models with practically zero hard evidence, what does this tell you about the probability that what they are saying is inaccurate?

I call BS. For one, if you came from a "hard science background" you'd understand the difference between the dictionary definition of Theory and Scientific Theory. They are two completely different things. That's why if someone says "Evolution is just a theory" you can laugh your ... off at them. To be fair, nobody else has made the distinction in the thread either.

A theory, in the scientific sense of the word, is an analytic structure designed to explain a set of empirical observations. A scientific theory does two things:

  1. it identifies this set of distinct observations as a class of phenomena, and
  2. makes assertions about the underlying reality that brings about or affects this class.
In the scientific or empirical tradition, the term "theory" is reserved for ideas which meet baseline requirements about the kinds of empirical observations made, the methods of classification used, and the consistency of the theory in its application among members of the class to which it pertains. These requirements vary across different scientific fields of knowledge, but in general theories are expected to be functional and parsimonious: i.e. a theory should be the simplest possible tool that can be used to effectively address the given class of phenomena.
 

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Zofryer You goota be the smartest guy working at the Long John Silvers! lol j/k

That pic. of you keeps reminding me of Fast Times at Ridgemont High!

Damn this religion thread has been going on since I started vaping. Arguing on the internet is kinda dumb, and hurts my neck-

Here this song might help-

YouTube - The Pixies- Monkey Gone to Heaven
 

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    I do not believe that Gashin exists.
    There is NO EVIDENCE! All of the posts under that name are probably just a computer negativity response bot. No real person could be that naieve.
    No photograph of Gashin would suffice as proof.
    If a person were standing before me in real life claiming to be Gashin I still would not believe. If that person had 10 forms of ID I still would not believe, it was all just faked evidence. NOTHING that he/she/it does or says will make me believe.
    Nice try but...
    Gashin is merely an illusion.

    LOL - you beat me to it - :p
     

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    This thread is a great example of why the evidence would be hidden - UTTER INSANITY would break out worldwide - So many people's self worth would be destroyed when confronted with even the PROBABILITY that we are not the "end all be all" of life in the Universe - ARROGANCE - Their tiny self important brains could not handle the news - Seriously - LOOK HOW VAST the Universe is - HUMANITY is as good as it gets? Man that would sure be mighty SAD - I'd eat the gun myself if it were proven HUMANS are the best thing going -
     
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    To me, the arrogance argument is the biggest reason to believe earth isn't the only life-populated planet. Mankind always jumps directly to the "it's the ONLY one!" scenario... and is practically always proven wrong. People have a very hard time wrapping their minds around the idea that earth may be a very typical and un-extraordinary planet.
     

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    To me, the arrogance argument is the biggest reason to believe earth isn't the only life-populated planet. Mankind always jumps directly to the "it's the ONLY one!" scenario... and is practically always proven wrong. People have a very hard time wrapping their minds around the idea that earth may be a very typical and un-extraordinary planet.

    True DAT -
    Also SM - I've noticed you refuting that Aliens may visit us - Have you not seen all the NASA footage of things flying about on missions? Pretty difficult to explain those away - There are no longer LIVE feeds from space because on one such feed a UFO(unidentified flying object) was clearly seen shooting past in the window - There was also a discussion between the astronauts and mission control concerning this object - This prompted the broadcast delay rule that they now operate under - Note audio of a Shuttle Discovery astronaut referring to an object as an "alien spacecraft"(5:15) - I can see possible explanations for some of these - Reflected light and such - Others defy explanation and none of that explains NASA outright referring to the object as "alien spacecraft" in recordings of offical NASA mission communication -
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlLN_Jcg1pc
     
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    True DAT -
    Also SM - I've noticed you refuting that Aliens may visit us - Have you not seen all the NASA footage of things flying about on missions? Pretty difficult to explain those away - There are no longer LIVE feeds from space because on one such feed a .....
    Aahh, but there is a LIVE feed from space. I watch it now and then too.
    DISH's Earth channel takes a big picture view
     

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    Aahh, but there is a LIVE feed from space. I watch it now and then too.
    DISH's Earth channel takes a big picture view

    I was referring to live feeds from NASA missions - Those went on delay after an object was clearly called an alien spacecraft by NASA - The audio of that is near the middle of the video I posted.(5:15)

    Also - What do you have to indicate that that DISH footage is not on delayed broadcast?
    I do not have DISH - so I can not see that -
     
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    Houdini

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    Also - What do you have to indicate that that DISH footage is not on delayed broadcast?
    I do not have DISH - so I can not see that -
    There is time/date stamp on the feed that matches exactly the one on the info banner at the top. I'm on the west coast. That's why the info banner is 3 hours behind.
    earth.jpg
     

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    Good enough - Nice to know - Still it does not in any way dispute the fact that NASA uses the term "alien spacecraft" - Which is the feed that I was talking about - What are they referring to? The one I posted is just one example - They have been caught many times saying "alien spacecraft" in discussions about something unknown flying around shuttle missions - Why would they not say Unidentified Object? There was a show on the History Channel a couple of years ago that showed a 15 minute long conversation between the Shuttle and Mission Control - They used the phrase "alien spacecraft" repeatedly - Then a warning was given to keep it down and they used more vauge terms such as bogy - I can't seem to find that video right now - They never once called it Unidentified - They seemed very aware of what it was and rather disturbed by it - Orders were given to keep an eye on it and continue to monitor it - Eventually it flew away and they went back to the mission at hand - Space Junk does not fly away - nor does it move in directions that oppose Earth orbit and follow a shuttle - as this one was doing -
     
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    I wasn't trying to dispute anything except there is a live feed from space, just not by NASA.
    That video you posted has many things that certainly look like an intelligence is in control of them. My theory is they could indeed be alien spacecraft but have trouble with our atmosphere and that's why there are many more sightings in space than here on earth.
     

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    I wasn't trying to dispute anything except there is a live feed from space, just not by NASA.
    That video you posted has many things that certainly look like an intelligence is in control of them. My theory is they could indeed be alien spacecraft but have trouble with our atmosphere and that's why there are many more sightings in space than here on earth.

    I was not arguing with you either - Posting for the sake of the Thread to clarify what I was showing - I can find you quite a lot of sightings on Earth as well - I seriously doubt that one could have achieved interstellar or transdimensional travel and have trouble with Atmosphere - There was that widely publicized event over Arizona just a few years ago - Thousands of people saw it for hours - No one ever explained it -
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sONgzwxomLQ
     
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    Bones

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    UFO doesn't equal alien to me. It's just what it sounds like. "Unexplained." Until I see some better hard evidence, I tend to think these are natural phenomenon, top secret military testing or some combination of the two.

    Yea - well - I'm not about to get into the whole "evidence V proof" thing again - LMAO -

    I've seen a couple myself - I'm always open to a logical explanation - and I think that 95% of sightings are something more mundane - But that remaining 5% is pretty convincing to me - Still the whole "military testing" argument does nothing to explain the frequent occurances of saucer shaped flying machines and aliens depicted in art that predates any flight by man - There is nothing modern about the phenomenon

    Ancient Aircraft - Crystalinks
    http://www.alienshift.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/EgyptAliens.jpg
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