Do you feel you need bigger clouds with vaping than with tobacco smoking?

[Rocketpunk]

I think I just won't be happy until I can exhale, spin around, and disappear into a cloud of vapor like a ninja.. Its not about satisfaction...it's about fun!

If I could do this with a mod I just might cave in.

4:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlc3s5bsHuc

 

[jaba62]

I need the nic and throat hit, some vapor is ok, don't need a hugh cloud. To each his own, if that's what your into. I don't get the cloud chasing, but then again I don't get Rap, Hip Hop, women, the Gov't etc..... do what you need to do, It doesn't bother me!

 

[Ryedan]

I've been vaping for 2 1/2 years now. At first all I wanted to do was quit smoking and I did that with low power devices. By month ten I had quit nicotine too.

I started looking for more from my vape experience as soon as I got into it. 10 second drags were not really satisfying for me, but they worked so I stuck with it for a while.

I went up the device and power road slowly. After a year my main vape was a AGA-T at 20 - 25 watts. These days my main vape is a Reo Grand with a dual coil Cyclone RDA at 25 - 30 watts. That makes a fair bit of vapor with my DIY 60% VG juices and I enjoy that, but the main reason I like it is that it's what I consider a more aggressive vape with two to three second lung hits doing it just fine for me. If I feel like it I add a bit of menthol and a few drops of nic to a tank and that gives it a bit of TH. Flavor is always great, or I did something wrong and I fix it.

So, yes, I do set up for more vapor than I used to get from smoking. I would miss that if I had to switch to lower VG juices but what I would miss a lot more is if I had to give up the higher power experience.

There is no wrong way to vape, as long as we're being safe. Vape on

 

[sstarrx3]

I have only been vaping since June so I am a noob. I can't see myself ever being a modder...there are too many good units out there now to need to build one. I guess the whole thing started when that was not the case and it turned into a hobby thing for allot of people...like building model airplanes. I flyfish and started tying my own flys 20 years ago...I started buying them about 19 years ago...did not have the time or patience for that mess!!

 

[Ryedan]

I wonder how many cloud chasers have woken up in the morning with an elephant on their chest, or got winded from walking up stairs, or couldn't go more than an hour without a dose of nic. I wonder how many cloud chasers at one point had a doctor visit and told them that if they didn't quit smoking, they'd surely die. I wonder how many cloud chasers were faced with cancer scares. I wonder because (from my experience, and all I have to go on in life are my experiences) not a lot of them are old enough to feel the cumulative effects of smoking for decades.

Rocketpunk, the OP specifically said this was not about cloud chasing. Just saying man

 

[Ryedan]

If I could do this with a mod I just might cave in.

4:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlc3s5bsHuc

LOL, you would have to really work on your cloud chasing skills . I have a Mutation X dripper I'm using to check this CC thingy out with and I'm not quite there yet ... but give me time

 

[AndriaD]

Nope. To me the vapor is just more or less a placebo; if it's too thin, it's less satisfying; if it's too thick, it chokes me. So I have to strike a happy medium, which actually ends up being pretty similar to the quantity of smoke I produced when I smoked, which makes it an EXCELLENT placebo.

Andria

 

[Rocketpunk]

Rocketpunk, the OP specifically said this was not about cloud chasing. Just saying man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jdPxuQZfaw

You're right, friend.

 

[Nathanallen1978]

When I first started vapeing the size of the cloud wasn't a factor at all. Now 4 months later and hanging out at the local vape shop I like having bigger clouds. It's kinda became more of a hobby now.

 

[gray]

I've met a point where I'm putting out slightly more cloud than a regular cig and I'm done with chasing it for now. I like running some tanks at ~8w and the dripper at ~23w. I like the dripper and the high VG juice much more than I thought I would. Whatever does it for ya.

 

[edyle]

The thickness of the cloud is a measure of how well my setup is working.

There's a financial aspect too. When you pay a high price for your eliquid, you want to know that you're vaping it on a rig that is performing properly

 

[Israfil]

If I could do this with a mod I just might cave in.

4:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlc3s5bsHuc

You can! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaXYpBFTR4A scroll to 19 minutes.

 

[Equilibrium]

.... "Do you feel you need bigger clouds with vaping than with tobacco smoking?"....

I don't feel like I "need" it, but it's pretty obvious that my gear produces more vapor than my wife's cigs produce smoke.

It is what it is, I guess. Keeps me off the smokes.

 

[tj99959]

I can't remember ever noticing the smoke I exhaled, but I have to admit that I do look at the vapor I exhale. But, don't ask me why.

OH-and, my 2 ohm coils on a mechanical mod don't produce all that much. Even a carto tank produces enough to satisfy me.

 

[TomGeorge]

I wonder how many cloud chasers have woken up in the morning with an elephant on their chest, or got winded from walking up stairs, or couldn't go more than an hour without a dose of nic. I wonder how many cloud chasers at one point had a doctor visit and told them that if they didn't quit smoking, they'd surely die. I wonder how many cloud chasers were faced with cancer scares. I wonder because (from my experience, and all I have to go on in life are my experiences) not a lot of them are old enough to feel the cumulative effects of smoking for decades.

I don't even know why I post here anymore, or read ECF, even. I'm taking another self-imposed break from here. Call me old, call me outdated, this place just isn't the same as it used to be.

EDITED: Cloud chasing is all the rage, and it just makes me kinda shake my head. Yeah, it's a hobby, yeah, it's perfect for tinkerers. But vaping originally was about quitting smoking. I understand hotrodding and modding and x-game type whatever, but people are assuming that rebuildables and sub ohming are the inevitable end game, and if you're not doing it, you're not doing it right.

Ok, I'm done. Peace out, ya'll. I'll be back later.

EDITED: One last edit. I understand ex-smokers who eventually became cloud chasers. It's not unknown. But the reason why there's this dichotomy going on between "normal" vapers and "cloud chasers" is that, for the most part, and I can't give hard numbers, a lot of us took this up because we KNEW smoking would kill us. It was literally a life or death situation. Now a bunch of hotrodders come in and take what perhaps saved our lives and turn it into an x-sport. With almost zero respect for what this (vaping) was originally intended.

Mah! I'm an old fart!! I can't help it. But speaking as someone who loved counter-culture anything in my past, as I've gotten older, yeah, the whole "get off my lawn" thing is very, very real.

First off, most of us "Hotrodders" havent been somking long enough like you said to feel the sideffects to that extent so I guess I will just put my gear down and go buy a carton a week from the reservation for the next 15 years so I can finally be accepted by you, as someone worthy of vaping.

Second, most of us "hotrodders" started smoking when it wasn't cool, and when we knew the negative outcomes of smoking but a) got hooked on accident (maybe their parents smoked in the house growing up...)or b) didnt know how else to cope with outside stress.

Third its not all whippersnappers that are "hotrodders" people of all ages enjoy it.

Lastly, the OP was not referring to cloud competitions, he was refering to the amount produced by an average RBA or RTA, just anything thats not a disposable or an ego.


This was not meant as an attack at you but it really gets on my nerves when people paint other people with one big brushstroke...or one big cloud of vape

 

[zahzoo]

The thickness of the cloud is a measure of how well my setup is working.

I think this is key...

One aspect I find after 20 months smoke free is there is a variability factor in vaping gear and the vaper/cloud production... that does not mirror the consistency of cigarettes and smoke production.

These devices are more sensitive to environmental variations that smokes aren't... for example... temperature and humidity can directly effect vapor production. I also find that I get less vapor production and especially flavor under windy conditions than calm air. I believe wind disrupts the ability of the VG/PG to bond with moisture molecules or disperses it before you get a chance to taste or see a good part of it.

There's also the variation due to coils reaching their replacement point from gunking up and the drop off in battery output when they reach the end of their useful charge.

Because of this it's motivated me to ensure my set-up is working at maximum vapor production and most likely more production than is necessary. Probably overcompensating to ensure performance because unlike cigarettes I just can't easily get what I want by drawing more on it...

 

[vince01]

Cloud shmoud ... for me it s all about flavour

but if clouds are your thing, go for it

as long as smokes are just a bad memory I'm good

 

[mountaingal]

I like blowing smoke rings!
That's one reason I like to vape!
I like about the same amount of smoke as a cig. Any bigger and I cough.

 

[bluecat]

Nope not at all. I just need my nic. Clouds just get in my way.

 

[Miata GT]

For me it's about the lung-fill feeling associated with more vapor, which also equals bigger clouds. It's not the clouds, per se.

I will say this though, I was satisfied with the vape from my T3Ss until I tried Kayfuns, then the T3Ss were too weak. Then carto tanks, then drippers, then drippers at lower ohms. Now everything before it feels too weak.

It's a delicious,s but more expensive, slippery slope!