Do you inhale when you vape? I have a question about nicotine delivery....

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Another thing I'd suggest is, don't mix all your 24mg juice down to a lower level at once. If I remember when I started vaping it took me a few days to really get used to the diferent sensation. I still vape mainly 24mg now. Just take shallower draws until you get used to it properly.

Sometimes, I'll take a double or triple draw, other times it's just a quick 2 second taster. It's just a case of taking a bit of time and finding out what works best for you over time :)
 

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Thanks a lot Anja. Just to clarify, this mixing down thing... if I bought say 12mg bottles of the same stuff I have now and used roughly half and half with the 24 into the cartomiser would that work?

That would give you 18 plus you could try the 12 on its own and see how you like it.
 

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Well, now you'll have enough to last MORE than a month...lol

This is true! As luck would have it I still have some 18mg USA Mix left. Funny thing is, I filled both cartos that came with my kit with two different eliquids. They both hold 1.5 ml according to the manual and nearly two days later one is just under half full and the other is almost used. I expected to use 3mls having been an over 20 a day guy from what people were saying but it hasn't worked out that way.
 

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Another thing I'd suggest is, don't mix all your 24mg juice down to a lower level at once. If I remember when I started vaping it took me a few days to really get used to the diferent sensation. I still vape mainly 24mg now. Just take shallower draws until you get used to it properly.

Sometimes, I'll take a double or triple draw, other times it's just a quick 2 second taster. It's just a case of taking a bit of time and finding out what works best for you over time :)

Can I ask which PG/VG ratio you started out with? As I type I'm vaping Ry4 (which is very nice) at 24mg with a 70/30 ratio and there is no way I can inhale a full three second draw of vapour, it's very harsh on my throat. I'm having to exhale first and inhale what's left.
 

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I'd just get 0 nic bottles of the same stuff and dilute it per tank adding more or less as needed while you test.

Yes, that is a great idea!
Makes it easier if you add 0 nic liquid.. to taste. No math, for one :) (I am a blonde *giggles*, so please, no math for me.)

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They both hold 1.5 ml according to the manual and nearly two days later one is just under half full and the other is almost used. I expected to use 3mls having been an over 20 a day guy from what people were saying but it hasn't worked out that way.

hm... you are not using much liquid. If it satisfies you, fine.
If not, you can use a little more :) 3mg a day is about what I normally use, after almost 2 years of vaping.
In the beginning, most vapers vape a lot. It is new, it tastes nice, it is exciting.. and you are not smoking ;). Your body will tell you clearly when it is enough for a while. (like eating: when you are full, then you are full)

believe me I'm not making this complicated for the sake of it but I would not like to think the technique I used meant I wasn't getting enough nicotine and so I was using lots of liquid to compensate. The guy in the tutorial says you should also hold it in your mouth for several seconds I am thinking ... several seconds slow draw, several seconds in the mouth and THEN I can inhale?

hm... I do not know the tutorial, but vaping is not rocket science :) It just takes some getting used to. As the technique is not the same as when you are smoking.

I would say:
get the right nic strength for you, and then just do what feels right. You will get the hang of it after about one day. Believe me.

The advice to fill your mouth and then inhale cautiously is the best advice that I received when I was a beginner. Saves you from coughing a lot. And it worked well. I never heard of holding it in your mouth. But then, I am from Germany :)

After a while - depending on the vaporizer - one can also draw the vapor right in. It is all a matter of practice and personal preference.

Of course, if there is something like a regular vapers meeting (evening out) in your area (we have them in Germany, and newcomers are always welcome), then it may be a good idea to attend.

Can I ask which PG/VG ratio you started out with? As I type I'm vaping Ry4 (which is very nice) at 24mg with a 70/30 ratio and there is no way I can inhale a full three second draw of vapour, it's very harsh on my throat. I'm having to exhale first and inhale what's left.

I got about 50/50 PG/VG.
But I think it is the nicotine that is bothering you :)
 
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I use 24 mg nic & yes it does give a pretty strong TH. But for me that's what I want as I don't inhale at all & want that TH that feels like when I would take a drag off a cigarette.

But there are some flavors that either don't produce much TH no matter what or they're flavors I didn't buy for the TH. Those ones I get in lower nic quantity so I can vape them more frequently for taste rather than TH.

Funny thing is, I filled both cartos that came with my kit with two different eliquids. They both hold 1.5 ml according to the manual and nearly two days later one is just under half full and the other is almost used. I expected to use 3mls having been an over 20 a day guy from what people were saying but it hasn't worked out that way.

The amount of juice you're using might also be because of the high nic content of your juice. I still use 24mg but I don't go through that much juice in a day either (maybe like 1.5ml). But that's because I don't take drags as often simply because too much of that high nic juice makes me feel yucky.

But when I use lower nic juices I do vape more because my body isn't telling me it doesn't want any more nic like it does with the higher juice.

Also, delivery system will affect that too. When I'm using my twist with the evod I take fewer drags than when I'm using a 510 battery & carto. This is because the power of the battery isn't allowing me to get as much juice with each drag so I feel like taking more drags more often.
 
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Anja thanks for taking the time to give such a detailed reply, it's appreciated. Zealous, stupid question probably but how do you get a TH if you don't inhale? Zoe thanks for being there giving great support at all times :)

Well with the higher nic level juices or with higher PG juices (PG will give bigger TH than VG but VG will give more vapor) just having it hit the back of the throat produces the TH. I don't know if one would call that "inhaling" still but in my mind it is not. I don't suck it down into my lungs. It's more of a hit the back of the throat & up through the nose sort of thing (hope that makes sense). Maybe like someone would smoke a pipe.

Since nicotine is not absorbed the same way with vaping as with smoking it's not necessary to inhale it to get the nicotine dosage from it. With smoking the nicotine is delivered through the lungs so inhaling is required but with vaping the nicotine enters the body trough absorption through the mouth.
 

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I tried the first draw off a mod vs the ol cigarette style ecigs and felt the same throat hit as a Marlboro I knew I could do this. I got an 18 and 24 to try both and the 24 is what I have been using as I like that throat hit. The 18 felt too mild and did not give me the same satisfaction. I inhale and 24 has satisfied me just as much as smoking an analog. The biggest difference is I do need a longer draw.


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Forget whatever you've read about the "correct way" to vape. The only correct way is YOUR way. Some go for flavor, some go for throat hit, some go for vapor. Take your time. Find the way that suits you/your delivery system/your device/your juice/ your mood.

There will be contradictory suggestions, but that's because each individual is different. All the suggestions are great. It gives you an idea, but ultimately, it's your preference.
 

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Can I ask which PG/VG ratio you started out with? As I type I'm vaping Ry4 (which is very nice) at 24mg with a 70/30 ratio and there is no way I can inhale a full three second draw of vapour, it's very harsh on my throat. I'm having to exhale first and inhale what's left.

Sorry I took a while to reply, busy day at work today.

I started off with a tobacco juice, that the shop I bought my starter kit from recommended. Tasted eeeewwww. After half a tank, I went back to the shop and got some blackcurrant instead. The juice was an 80/20 mix (heavier on the PG). I found this a bit harsh at first, so tried a 50/50 mix instead. Now I mainly make my own juice in a 50/50 mix, but I do still buy shop bought in various ratios up to 80/20.

Just keep experimenting and find what works for you. Once you get used to vaping, you'll be taking 10 second draws without thinking about it :)
 

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I agree that 24 nic level is probably to high (not that I am an expert by any means).......I started vaping just under 7 months ago and WAS a smoker for 30+ years.....one of my friends said go with 24-36 nic level to begin with, then someone closer to me with more vaping experience said, NO Way that high level will not only make you feel sick, it will keep you from quitting cigarettes as you will hate it.....he recommended I go with 12mg of nicotine. That is exactly what I did and haven't looked back since. I haven't smoked a cigarette since my first vape!

I do inhale as I like the throat hit to replicate smoking.....it is very smooth with the 12 mg of nic. I hope that will work for you!
 

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Sorry I took a while to reply, busy day at work today.

I started off with a tobacco juice, that the shop I bought my starter kit from recommended. Tasted eeeewwww. After half a tank, I went back to the shop and got some blackcurrant instead. The juice was an 80/20 mix (heavier on the PG). I found this a bit harsh at first, so tried a 50/50 mix instead. Now I mainly make my own juice in a 50/50 mix, but I do still buy shop bought in various ratios up to 80/20.

Just keep experimenting and find what works for you. Once you get used to vaping, you'll be taking 10 second draws without thinking about it :)

Hi thanks for getting back to me,

Well I'm nearing the end of Day 3 now and I'm finally getting a feel for what I like. I'm smoking a Mocha 24mg at the moment and
it's not as harsh as the Ry4 on TH though it's still 70/30.

I have a 50/50 Caramel tobacco type thing to try in 24 as well though the USA Mix at 18 seemed to be the closes in TH to the
cigs I used to smoke, maybe a bit milder. I'm going to try some more 18's when I get maybe a week into non smoking and feel 'safe' lol.

I use 18 and feel like I sometime get very little TH so maybe I'll get some 24 ml in same flavor to compare. If that finally gives me the TH im looking for ill be super happy...

From my limited experience, 18 felt like a normal cig and 24 felt like I was lighting up a Marlborough Red and inhaling that. Definitely try a 24 if you're not getting a good TH that suits you.
 

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Like I said, there's a bit of trial and error to start with. Just stay positive and know that you're on the right path now.

Some of my work mates vape 12-18mg and are happy at that level, one guy vapes 36 mg and has done for 12 months now - but he was a cigar smoker originally.

I'm happy at 24mg, but sometimes use 18mg in a dripper. You'll find different flavour juices taste stronger than others. Just enjoy the experience of finding out which ones you like ;)
 
yup :) same here.

However, vaping is not the same technique as smoking.
Draw the vapor into your mouth and then inhale... slowly, cautiously. Tobacco cigarettes contain an additive that suppresses coughing. Our vapor does not. That is why most people who try vaping cough like h*** the first time :)

And I agree about the 24mg nic - that is strong stuff. I myself started with 18mg and stayed with 18mg.
I would also recommend:
keep some of the 24 mg for when you want a tobacco cigarette right now - and mix the rest of it down to 18 mg or so. Makes vaping much more pleasant.

Once you find the nic strength that is right for you, the inhaling technique takes about one day to master, from my own experience.

happy vaping!

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as to "mixing down", that also works well with a lower nic liquid that goes well with yours, taste-wise. Vanilla or caramel tastes great with tobacco flavor liquid :)

Wow thats Crazy, I coughed allot more when I used to smoke so there additive is not working
 

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Like I said, there's a bit of trial and error to start with. Just stay positive and know that you're on the right path now.

Some of my work mates vape 12-18mg and are happy at that level, one guy vapes 36 mg and has done for 12 months now - but he was a cigar smoker originally.

I'm happy at 24mg, but sometimes use 18mg in a dripper. You'll find different flavour juices taste stronger than others. Just enjoy the experience of finding out which ones you like ;)

The experience of finding out which ones I like would be a damn sight easier if I didn't go to put a few drops of a new flavour in and then check to see I've got half a tank! I'm smoking the Mocha because I don't want to throw it away, it's nice enough though.
 

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The experience of finding out which ones I like would be a damn sight easier if I didn't go to put a few drops of a new flavour in and then check to see I've got half a tank! I'm smoking the Mocha because I don't want to throw it away, it's nice enough though.

I remember doing the same thing myself :)

Now, I just have 5 or 6 different set ups at the side of me, all with different flavours in them, so I can swap and change around without having to open a tank. I even take 2 different ones to work with me each day for a bit of variety.

That's what I enjoy most about vaping, hundreds of different tastes to enjoy - I will try them all eventually :laugh:
 
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