i have been giving this direct inhaling thing some thought..

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    to throw some more fuel onto this (interesting) fire.. a product that has an air inlet hole about the size of a pin.. lets say a 901 atomizer.. to someone like me with an engineering background aint designed to be directly breathed thru..

    in fact its bloody near impossible to direct breath thru a pin hole.. and i dont think for one second that anybody trying to breath thru this pin hole is going to get much smoke (vapour) into their lungs..

    now a hookah.. thats a different kettle of fish.... it has something a little larger than pin hole to breath thru.. so its designed to be used differently than a 901 e cig..

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      a semi humorous pic taken a long time ago..

      one single mouthful of e vapour from a device that works..

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      now if that aint enought to wack into your lungs over a two second period.. and give you a nice full flavour throat hit i give up..

      this by the way is way more vapour than could be breathed thru the pin hole.. this huge cloud hits the lungs on the normal inhale.. assuming you smoke properly of course... he he he

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        fisherman said:
        I have to say this; direct lung vaping isn't just about "through the hole". It requires a good deal of "additional" air intake, either through the mouth, or the nose.

        LOL... This is what I keep saying! You don't want to JUST breathe through the atomizer when you direct inhale. It won't work very well at all...
         

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          LOL... This is what I keep saying! You don't want to JUST breathe through the atomizer when you direct inhale. It won't work very well at all...

          Seems to work fine in my Janty Stick with Kissbox atty's. There is enough flow from where the atty sits on the battery threads where I can get a good draw with my lips sealed on the mouthpiece. I dont even need to breathe in through my nose while taking a draw.

          Fisherman was right about model and mouthpiece dependant. Those are huge factors.
           

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            LOL... This is what I keep saying! You don't want to JUST breathe through the atomizer when you direct inhale. It won't work very well at all...
            Yeah, it's like sucking through a straw.

            Which of course makes a logical person wonder about all those complaining about sucking through a straw with these devices. Are they direct lung inhalers trying to find their comfort zone?
             

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              now if that aint enought to wack into your lungs over a two second period.. and give you a nice full flavour throat hit i give up..

              this by the way is way more vapour than could be breathed thru the pin hole.. this huge cloud hits the lungs on the normal inhale.. assuming you smoke properly of course... he he he

              trog
              And I gotta say, I can blow out that much vapor even inhaling directly into my lungs using a 510 model, and I hope we all know by now that direct inhalation to the lungs leads to less vapor upon exhale.

              And no, that much vapor is not enough to wack my lungs.
              It's hardly even enough to give me a woody.

              But then, I was born and raised on a different substance altogether.
              And I learned to get my real cigarette nicotine fix using the same method.

              Let's not just dismiss either side of this question.
              This is a blockbuster question that has significant ramifications.
               

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                Can't really understand the thread at all. I guess that each vaper just does it how they feel best. Trog has a fascination with direct lung inhalers, but maybe that's because it's more relevant to a manufacturer than an end user :confused:. Still a bit mystified myself :confused: Having said that, I've now started to be concious of how I'm vaping 8-o Thanks Trog, you bizarre/completely normal mouth inhaler type thingy:D
                 

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                  Trog has an unequalled reputation amongst vapers in almost every aspect of the genre and is rarely questioned over his musings - 'cos he's usually right :D But I haven't a clue what he's going on about now. It doesn't matter! Unless, of course, if someone is wrongly reviewing his product, then that's different. But if someone does review his product using a method of vaping which he doesn't agree with, then let's hear it - how do you use the product? The mouthpiece and the atty are standard pieces of equipment, the body is classy and the workmanship is excellent - (don't see the bit about how to inhale it 'though:)

                  Maybe it's late, but are you stirring the old spoon for a bit of fun? Wouldn't blame you:D
                   

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                    RenaissancePuffer:
                    I think us direct lung inhalers need to create a group :p

                    After mouth inhaling all last night and throughout the day today, I can say, for me, I taste the flavor much less. Janty Stick, Kissbox atomizer.

                    Wow. Just the opposite for me. Vapor hangs in mouth gets a thorough tasting by the tongue, etc. whereas a lung inhale goes straight through hardly a taste... JS and 510.... IOW, a big difference in flavor.

                    Less throat hit, but I prefer flavor over throat hit.

                    In agreement on that point.
                     

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                      I get the flavor as the atty begins to warm up really good (around 3-4 seconds), then I taste it on my tongue as it inhales into the lungs, then even more so on the exhale.

                      Understood, but still different for me, in multiples... although I was going to add on the other note that I get more on the exhale than on the inhale doing a 'lung inhale', but then I get just as good flavor on a 'mouth inhale' on the exhale as well.

                      I'm probably getting the same 'atty warm up' because I take a few air inhales (french inhales - so I'm 'sensing/tasting/smelling' through the nose as well - which for me, adds flavor) in the process of building up the mouth inhale.
                       

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                        okay.. first point.. most of us mouth inhalers had never heard of you direct inhalers.. so we dont know exactly how you do it..

                        the pin hole factor has brought letting in air from somewhere else into the equation.. .. now how much air and how is this done..

                        also... i dont know this..

                        And I gotta say, I can blow out that much vapor even inhaling directly into my lungs using a 510 model, and I hope we all know by now that direct inhalation to the lungs leads to less vapor upon exhale.

                        to me what come out is directly related to two main things.. number one what goes in.. less in less out..

                        number two how long what goes in is held in.. the longer its held in the more gets absorbed by the lungs and the less comes out..

                        so okay whats the rationed behind the less vapour out with direct inhaling.. could it simple be that after all this extra air is let in.. less actual vapour goes in.. most of what goes in is this extra air..

                        less out means less in.. or in my simple world it does.. i recon you direct inhalers aint quite getting what you think you are..

                        unless one of you can come up with reason for this less vapour out with direct inhaling idea..

                        i think you are all kidding your selves into thinking direct inhaling means you are getting more smoke in when in reality you are actually getting less in..

                        which of course is the simple reason why you get less out... he he..

                        i am really trying to get mind mind around this method of cigarette smoking i have only just heard of.. honest

                        trog

                        ps... anyways i am just trying this letting more air in around the mouthpiece idea.. the result is total wimp land... what am i doing wrong... he he
                         
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