Lol, it fortunately made me stupid enuf that I lost track of where I put them and when to take them.Still finding the packs in drawers years later.....
Do you still trust your Dr.? Re: Chantix
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Lol, it fortunately made me stupid enuf that I lost track of where I put them and when to take them.Still finding the packs in drawers years later.....
I think Chantix is used because smoking is dangerous and hard to quit, justifying the psychiatric risks, which are actually small. I know people here are excited about vaping but different people have different needs, and conventional treatments really do work for some people.
I took Wellbutrin in the past when I was a non-smoker and I totally lost the craving for cigs, which never went away altogether when I quit (using smokeless tobacco, then the patch + peppermint candy). My doctor had to tweak my Wellbutrin dose, though, as I started getting psychotic depression at 200mg. I've honestly considered taking it again as it might help me as I've been in a funk a few weeks. But Wellbutrin was so hard to quit, I had bad withdrawl from it, almost as bad as quitting smoking.
I doubt Chantix would work for me, though. I don't find nicotine particularly addictive and I respond better to whole tobacco alkaloids. It's the ritual bit of smoking, plus the minor alkaloids that keep me hooked, and Chantix only works on nicotine receptors in the brain.
I took Wellbutrin in the past when I was a non-smoker and I totally lost the craving for cigs, which never went away altogether when I quit (using smokeless tobacco, then the patch + peppermint candy). My doctor had to tweak my Wellbutrin dose, though, as I started getting psychotic depression at 200mg. I've honestly considered taking it again as it might help me as I've been in a funk a few weeks. But Wellbutrin was so hard to quit, I had bad withdrawl from it, almost as bad as quitting smoking.
I doubt Chantix would work for me, though. I don't find nicotine particularly addictive and I respond better to whole tobacco alkaloids. It's the ritual bit of smoking, plus the minor alkaloids that keep me hooked, and Chantix only works on nicotine receptors in the brain.
I was on Chantix for three months. I asked my doc about using it to quit smoking, and he was enthusiastic.
I noticed a little less desire to light up, but I never quit.
Next time I'll bring my Halo, and explain how it works to him. Can't really fault the ignorant.
I noticed a little less desire to light up, but I never quit.
Next time I'll bring my Halo, and explain how it works to him. Can't really fault the ignorant.
When I was a young tad, I realized that my mother would lie to me if she thought it was to my benefit. Once you realize that you can't trust your mother 100 percent where does that leave anyone else? I tried quitting cigs and failed miserably every time. Even with some dip maintaining my nic level I still craved that cigarette. Got off the coffin nails with e-cigs and have been lowering my nic levels. I find that I don't really crave the nicotine like I thought I would. I presume that some of the thousand and one additional chemicals in the cigarette were what were making it so hard to quit. Those "flavor additives" to make you come back to their brand perhaps?
Wellbutrin nightmares usually last just a couple of weeks and then go away.
It only takes one person to start a revolution.
I think that doctors are a lot like auto mechanics. They have a pretty good idea whats wrong but can't really tell until they start pulling things apart, a process I try to avoid!
Few years back I was having violent episodes of vomiting. Went to the doc and he said I was drinking too much. Quit drinking, kept puking. Then it was smoking too much. Suffered to quit, still puked. Finally had to go to the emergency room because I was so dehydrated my kidneys were failing. They ran a few test and I have pancreatitis. Doctor could have ran the same test in the office and saved me a $16,000 hospital bill, missed time at work, and 2 years of pain and suffering. I'm just happy they didn't have to "open the hood" to figure it out.
Few years back I was having violent episodes of vomiting. Went to the doc and he said I was drinking too much. Quit drinking, kept puking. Then it was smoking too much. Suffered to quit, still puked. Finally had to go to the emergency room because I was so dehydrated my kidneys were failing. They ran a few test and I have pancreatitis. Doctor could have ran the same test in the office and saved me a $16,000 hospital bill, missed time at work, and 2 years of pain and suffering. I'm just happy they didn't have to "open the hood" to figure it out.
Chantix has worked beautifully for a bunch of people and I think that is wonderful. I tried it several times and it would help me stop but I always went back after I quit taking it. I never had any side effects. I wanted the vivid dreams. heehee
What I am trying to say is "whatever works" is the way to go. Read, research and make informed decisions.
What I am trying to say is "whatever works" is the way to go. Read, research and make informed decisions.
Nope don't trust them at all.
I think its funny (weird) that I can not choose to vape something safer according to current studies over analogs without the interference and government fuss, but its ok to go to someone and pay them to possibly kill me.
I think its funny (weird) that I can not choose to vape something safer according to current studies over analogs without the interference and government fuss, but its ok to go to someone and pay them to possibly kill me.
I took chantix.. and the experience was terrible.. Don't need to bore you with the details.. but does it really surprise you that Doctors prescribe things without caring about the consequences of their patients? (watch "The Oxycontin Express" documentary if you need anymore proof)
Every person I know that has taken Chantix has gone back to smoking within the year.
Every doctor I know that advises and prescribes Chantix also receives "incentives" for the medications they prescribe.
Every doctor I know that advises and prescribes Chantix also receives "incentives" for the medications they prescribe.
I feel the same way. I believe that my doctor is a decent person trying to do the best job he can. If that were not the case, he would not be my doctor. We had a good talk when I first became his patient where I expressed my concerns about prescription medications. I basically told him that if I needed "something" that I could affect though a change in lifestyle or diet that I would rather not take a pill. He respects that.
Some are that way out of choice; I'd like to think that most are that way just to survive.
My mother had a stroke last year. She is on a few different medications specifically for elderly people with dementia and alzheimer's. The side affects (as listed) are absolutely horrifying. Stroke. Heart failure. Death. Seizures.
But the alternative is an angry, paranoid, confused 86 year-old woman that is a danger to herself and others.
What's better?
Prescription medication is often not a wonderful cure, but rather the lesser of two evils. Hopefully the prescribing doctor is aware of the risks and takes into account the impact on the quality of life of the patient.
That is so cool and this is the stuff I like to hear! Visible proof that vaping is a vast improvement over smoking. I'm happy to hear that your wounds are healing better.....
My Aunt and Uncle were married over 40 years. Uncle took Chantix to stop smoking and tried to kill my aunt by choking her in the night. Quit taking it and all was well with them as always was. God bless them both as they both pasted on now but I wondered if my Uncle could have kicked the habit with vaping and saved his life. Died from heart failure due to smoking.
I would never take that due to all the side effects. I'll take my chances with ecig, which after over a year, haven't killed me yet, no caused me to want to kill others.
When I took Chantix back in 2008ish I went crazy, smashed every phone in my house. Good thing I was not a gun collector at that time!
a lot of friends and family members vape and we all go to the same dr so she knows a lot about vaping. She cant believe how much it has helped me. Im still sure she has not recommended it to any other clients because they make money on RX's
We took Chantix before the suicide and erratic behavior warnings came out. I did get the vivid dreams which was waaaay cool, frankly. My husband got the vivid nightmares which was not a good thing at all. We did both quit smoking for the duration of the treatment course and a few months beyond but it didn't "stick".
As to the doctor question, I've dropped several in recent years. One insisted that I increase the dosage of a medication to the "recommended level" even though the lower dosage was accomplishing the goal. Another wanted to "proactively" put me on statins (of all things) despite the fact my test levels were just fine. A third wanted to put me on megadoses of vitamin D for a deficiency - I switched to whole milk and started walking outside (where the big glowing ball is visible), no more problem. Doctor chastised me for the whole milk (even after I explained that vitamin D is fat soluble).
Don't get me wrong, I don't distrust doctors and my current one is terrific about discussing options and researching before prescribing (she knows I don't really like taking meds), but no one knows everything and everyone relies on outside information somewhere in the decision process - unfortunately for doctors, it's often big pharma and the FDA. And I'm not so trusting there.
As to the doctor question, I've dropped several in recent years. One insisted that I increase the dosage of a medication to the "recommended level" even though the lower dosage was accomplishing the goal. Another wanted to "proactively" put me on statins (of all things) despite the fact my test levels were just fine. A third wanted to put me on megadoses of vitamin D for a deficiency - I switched to whole milk and started walking outside (where the big glowing ball is visible), no more problem. Doctor chastised me for the whole milk (even after I explained that vitamin D is fat soluble).
Don't get me wrong, I don't distrust doctors and my current one is terrific about discussing options and researching before prescribing (she knows I don't really like taking meds), but no one knows everything and everyone relies on outside information somewhere in the decision process - unfortunately for doctors, it's often big pharma and the FDA. And I'm not so trusting there.
What about a diet pill that alters our colon discharges. If you take the diet drug Alli and you over eat, its likely you will crap on yourself or have .... leakage. lol
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