Does Anyone Else Hate The Taste Of New Cotton?

[Robert Cromwell]

New cotton tastes much better than old burned cotton.

 

[Andromendous]

I just wonder. If rayon is so cheap and great, how come all these new tanks use OJC? How come they dont jump on the rayon wagon? Just curious thinking.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Some of us are not so fond of rayon.

 

[Bad Ninja]

I just wonder. If rayon is so cheap and great, how come all these new tanks use OJC? How come they dont jump on the rayon wagon? Just curious thinking.

Cotton is easier to source in bulk.

And I think it's actually from India or China, not Japan. ( well, hopefully not Japan).

 

[WillieB69]

And I think it's actually from India or China, not Japan. ( well, hopefully not Japan).

Just check to be sure it doesn't glow in the dark.....

 

[Alter]

I must read too much since I'm leary about using the whatever wire and who knows cotton in stock coils. I take the stock coil apart and replace with my own build if I'm intending on using the heads.

 

[crxess]

I must read too much since I'm leary about using the whatever wire and who knows cotton in stock coils. I take the stock coil apart and replace with my own build if I'm intending on using the heads.

Yes you do.........at least with the major brands. Typically the Clearomizers use Nichrome. The larger tanks use Kanthal type wire(Kanthal is actually a Branding) or onr of the TC wires.<Nickel, Titanium, Stainless(403/316/etc.)

Haven't had any mystery wire issues on over 3 years, but some of the wire sent with RTA's is so thin it is a waste or space.

 

[Bad Ninja]

Just check to be sure it doesn't glow in the dark.....

Lol
That's one reason I use rayon.
No joke.

 

[HauntedMyst]

I prefer silica. It tastes most neutral to me.

 

[Completely Average]

Cellulose is cellulose is cellulose. Doesn't matter if it's "natural" or "synthetic," cellulose is just cellulose. To paraphrase: cellulose, by any other name, would wick as great.

Rayon and cotton are both composed primarily of cellulose fibers. The difference is that rayon, being "synthetic" can be made nearly 100% pure cellulose, whereas cotton, being a "naturally-grown" product, is also full of proteins and long-chain carbon molecules and all sorts of other "organic" stuff you don't necessarily want in there if you can avoid it.

Actually, no, cellulose is not cellulose. There are four different types of Cellulose. Cotton is Cellulose I and Rayon is Cellulose III. Rayon is Viscose Cellulose, a regenerative form of cellulose. To create it the raw cellulose from wood is broken down with sodium hydroxide, carbon disulfide, caustic soda, and finally is pulled through an acid bath to create the fibers. Once the fibers are created they are dried and bleached to make them white.

They are different on a molecular level. Cotton has a molecular chain length between 800 and 10,000 molecules while Rayon typically has a chain length of around 300 molecules.

 

[aceman3330]

Cotton is easier to source in bulk.

And I think it's actually from India or China, not Japan. ( well, hopefully not Japan).

Actually, the organic cotton "I" use are from Japan.


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[aceman3330]

Any link I can get rayon?


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[Bad Ninja]

Any link I can get rayon?


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Sally's beauty supply.
Cellu- cotton (rayon) is about $9 for a 500ft box.
You might have a store locally

 

[aceman3330]

Sally's beauty supply.
Cellu- cotton (rayon) is about $9 for a 500ft box.
You might have a store locally

Got a picture? So I don't buy something that's not.
Edit: I don't live inUSA anymore, so it might be hard to find Sally's.


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[Bad Ninja]

Actually, the organic cotton "I" use are from Japan.


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I personally don't feel confident Japanese outdoor grown cotton is 100% safe.
Lol
And I'm a Ninja!

 

[aceman3330]

I personally don't feel confident Japanese outdoor grown cotton is 100% safe.
Lol
And I'm a Ninja!

That's why I wanna try rayon.


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[mauricem00]

What I have found especially with rayon is that the breakin taste directly relates to how tight the rayon is in the coil. When I first started using rayon, and packed the coil tight I had a severe breakin taste that usually lasted for the first tank, now with experience along with a slightly looser wicking, I can wick my rayon subtank/TFV4 and have no taste what so ever. I did have a brief encounter with cotton eons ago as wicking but didn't like replacing the wick every few days so I used hemp fiber for a couple years in our protank builds, thats another breakin taste altogether, hemp requires removing of all the off colored shards and bunnies or you get a woodzy taste but was a more absorbent and longer lasting wicking material than cotton.
I do store all my wicking in airtight containers(nothing more special than wicking a dog hair into the coil...YUK), wash hands before touching and not pack the coil too tight. Plenty of hits and misses learning to wick but it paid off with almost perfect wicking in every build now.
IMO its well worth ditching the cotton and using rayon as wicking. The rayon box your after is box #44060, thats for the 500' box.

I have the same problem using rayon but rayon shrinks with time so if i wick loosely it becomes too loose and starts giving me a burnt after a while. it only takes about 1 mil of juice or less to break in a new wick

 

[Bad Ninja]

Edit: this is the correct link.

Graham Professional CelluCotton Beauty Coil 500ft.

 

[WillieB69]

I'm wondering if there arw any issues with the rayon and leaking vs cotton?

 

[RipCigs]

Yep, i hate it as well. When i taste it too much, i remove the top cap and just fire the atty for a min. It helps