Travel and Vaping Does Carnival Cruise lines allow e-cig smoking anywhere?

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As far as vaping.. You Betcha!
Smoking is restricted to certain areas of the ship


That is where I first learned of the Electronic Cigarette.
In the Main Dining Room on the Carnival Fantasy.
I also understand that the Captain of one of the Carnival ships is a Vaper.
 

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FYI today on FB from John Heald/Carnival

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The elcronic cigarette is here to stay and is obviously helping smokers. We are about to come out with some guidelines regarding this on the ships with most areas if not all being ones where we will allow them to be used. Anyone have any thoughts they want me to send to the beards before a final desickion is made?
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For those that don't know, John Heald is the Senior Cruise Director for Carnival.
If I personally was going to guess I think if it is not allowed anywhere it will be the main dining rooms/food service areas (such as the Lido buffet). I can live with that.
 

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With all the other places available on a cruise liner I think it only right the Dining Room and other (indoor) eateries be Smoke and Vape free zones.

One thing I do not want to see is non-smokers being disadvantaged by the 'thought' of someone smoking whilst they are having what is possibly a special night out. I don't understand the need to Vape in a restaurant or other eatery.

Some people find smoking (and therefore vaping by default) to be abhorrent. It doesn't have to affect them physically, but mentally the thought it may be doing some harm, or it smells bad, or in some way forcing them to do something (inhale 2nd hand smoke/vape) that they have made a conscious decision NOT to do.

If I can make a 'silly' analogy. If you were in a restaurant eating your favourite meal (which cost a fortune but hey, once in a while, special occasions etc) and somebody comes over and pours an ashtray full of butts on it and casually walks away, wouldn't you be a little peeved. I would and I was a smoker.

Just my 2c worth.
 

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One thing I do not want to see is non-smokers being disadvantaged by the 'thought' of someone smoking whilst they are having what is possibly a special night out.

One thing I don't want to see is things being banned/made illegal just because someone 'thought' they 'might' be slightly put out emotionally. Someone else's emotional turmoil is not my problem, and it shouldn't be made my problem.
 

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With all the other places available on a cruise liner I think it only right the Dining Room and other (indoor) eateries be Smoke and Vape free zones.

One thing I do not want to see is non-smokers being disadvantaged by the 'thought' of someone smoking whilst they are having what is possibly a special night out. I don't understand the need to Vape in a restaurant or other eatery.

Some people find smoking (and therefore Vaping by default) to be abhorrent. It doesn't have to affect them physically, but mentally the thought it may be doing some harm, or it smells bad, or in some way forcing them to do something (inhale 2nd hand smoke/vape) that they have made a conscious decision NOT to do.

If I can make a 'silly' analogy. If you were in a restaurant eating your favourite meal (which cost a fortune but hey, once in a while, special occasions etc) and somebody comes over and pours an ashtray full of butts on it and casually walks away, wouldn't you be a little peeved. I would and I was a smoker.

Just my 2c worth.

Seriously? :facepalm:
 

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Seriously? :facepalm:

Why yes. You don't agree? :shock:

I know to some it may seem an alien concept but I do believe in trying to be considerate of others.

Its not because I am a goody-goody (far from it). Its simply that I would like others to respect my feelings/space/rights etc.

I tend to get a little angry when that doesn't happen, because its not such a hard thing to do.

I do not see the difference in the authorities restricting your right to smoking in certain areas and a vaper forcing his will on others by vaping in areas which could cause confrontation - public transport, planes, restaurants or any other area where a group of people have little choice but to be herded together.

But hey; your entitled to your opinion and can vape away where you like. Just don't complain if someone (pointing to the NO SMOKING sign on the wall) takes your favourite PV from you and grinds it into the ground thinking its just a smoke worth 50c not a PV worth a $100.

BTW. I'll be the one chuckling in the corner :ohmy:
 

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I think it's better to reply line by line.

Why yes. You don't agree? :shock: No.

I know to some it may seem an alien concept but I do believe in trying to be considerate of others. That’s a good thing and shouldn’t that also extend to people that have different values than you?

Its not because I am a goody-goody (far from it). Its simply that I would like others to respect my feelings/space/rights etc. I tend to get a little angry when that doesn't happen, because its not such a hard thing to do. I disagree. It’s impossible to know what each persons feelings are.

I do not see the difference in the authorities restricting your right to smoking in certain areas and a vaper forcing his will on others by vaping in areas which could cause confrontation - public transport, planes, restaurants or any other area where a group of people have little choice but to be herded together. To me this paragraph illustrates the real problem with the relentless brainwashing the anti crowd has foisted upon us, i.e. Vaping = smoking. To me they are intirely different things and should be judged or restricted on their own merits. As a matter of fact I think Vaping is an ultimate form of being considerate.

But hey; your entitled to your opinion and can vape away where you like. Just don't complain if someone (pointing to the NO SMOKING sign on the wall) takes your favourite PV from you and grinds it into the ground thinking its just a smoke worth 50c not a PV worth a $100. I’m going to point to that same sign and give them a thumbs up! I agree! If they try to take my PV away for any reason they will be drawing back a nub.

BTW. I'll be the one chuckling in the corner :ohmy: I’m not surprised.
 
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Just to add to this, I went on the Inspiration during spring break and I vaped almost everywhere except the dining room during dinner. Other than that, I was pretty open about it. I used it the most during the adult comedy shows and for some reason when I was a little...um...wasted, I had the urge to explain it to a crew member who was guarding the adult dance club. He just looked at it, handed it back and asked if I was 18 (to get in).

That was my first cruise. I can't wait for my next one. :)
 

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I know to some it may seem an alien concept but I do believe in trying to be considerate of others.

You don't expect the same courtesy from others? If your vaping is not harming them, what right to they have to object in the first place? Why is it any of their business - and why do you assume that vaping in public is rude? It's not rude... it's just vaping.
 

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You don't expect the same courtesy from others? If your vaping is not harming them, what right to they have to object in the first place? Why is it any of their business - and why do you assume that vaping in public is rude? It's not rude... it's just vaping.

I may have given the wrong impression somehow. I have absolutely NO objections to Vaping in public. My concern is where people are forced in some way to be at close quarters with others eg, elevators, restaurants, toilets. In these situations I think it is just good manners not to vape. If you feel the need to vape, step outside. Its not that hard a thing to do. If you have ever been in an elevator with a pig farmer whose boots were caked in pig..... you might find it a little offensive to your nose. Has he done anything wrong. No. But he could have changed his shoes before going into a crowded space if had bothered about others.

I understand that some people just don't get it. I don't understand how people can go through life thinking they are the centre of the universe and they can behave any way they like with impunity, but I can't. I sometimes wish I could. If I bump in to somebody, I say I'm sorry, not watch out ......... If someone bumps into me accidentally, its not a problem, not a reason to give them a mouthful or worse. I'd love to be the type (at times) who pushes into a line because he's in a hurry or she's only got a few items.

You don't expect the same courtesy from others?
Not really. Its not about that. If I am afforded the same courtesy, I am grateful. If not, well, that seems to be somewhat normal behaviour now-a-days.

The original question about vaping on board a ship is a great question. It has the whole structure of civilization crammed into a small area. Frankly, I never found it too hard to walk 40 or 50 paces out on to deck for a smoke, and I met some really interesting people out there at the same time.
 

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arjay, I agree with what SC said. I'm all about being polite, but sending out the "thought police" just seemed a little over the top to me. As did the analogy (i.e., vaping in someone's personal space used in comparison to eating your favorite meal at a restaurant and having someone dump an ashtray full of cigarette butts on it).
 
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In these situations I think it is just good manners not to vape.

This starts from the assumption that vaping is somehow harmful/offensive. I disagree with your basic assumption.

If you have ever been in an elevator with a pig farmer whose boots were caked in pig..... you might find it a little offensive to your nose.

This starts from the assumption that vaping=horrific smell. I disagree with this basic assumption, too. As does the - non-smoking - girl I bought sunglasses from yesterday. She asked me what my ProVari/MAP tank was. I demonstrated it by pulling in a nice, deep drag and exhaling a cloud of vapor. Ms T's Bakery Apple Pie. Her initial look of shock almost immediately gave way to a smile, and she asked me to do it again because it smelled delicious. She wasn't offended - why would anyone else be?

I suggest you change your juice if what you're breathing out smells like a dirty pig farm. It can't be pleasant tasting.
 
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The starts from the assumption that vaping is somehow harmful/offensive. I disagree with your basic assumption.

I suggest your change your juice if what you're breathing out smells like a dirty pig farm. It can't be pleasant tasting.

I agree. More fragrantful (i know not a word) type e-juices will help win them over.
 

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This starts from the assumption that vaping is somehow harmful/offensive. I disagree with your basic assumption.



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I suggest you change your juice if what you're breathing out smells like a dirty pig farm. It can't be pleasant tasting.


This starts from the assumption that vaping is somehow harmful/offensive. I disagree with your basic assumption.

At no time have I stated I thought vaping was harmful/offensive. Your assumption that I have that assumption is somewhat misguided. To clarify; I do believe that until e-cigs and vaping in particular becomes more commonplace Joe Public (right or wrong) will initially think the vapour is indeed smoke. Therefore any restrictions on cigarette smoking Joe Public (right or wrong) might also be in place for e-cigs and vaping. To get in there face and blow vapour on them to show the difference is somewhat confrontational. So what you might say. If they are that ignorant of the difference they should be taught otherwise.

The way I would do that obviously differs with many others as I don't believe confrontational-ism (in this case) is the answer. In fact I think it is detrimental to the cause. You can thumb your nose at society all you want but if you want something like Vaping to be accepted especially when its facing stern opposition from government agencies and politicians, it is getting society (Joe Public) on your side. That imo is your only chance of succeeding.

Of course, this is my opinion. It may or may not work in my part of the world and other methods may work better in your part of the world. Of course, you guys would be the best judge of that.

On a separate note if you've never vaped pig...., then you've missed out badly. :) Its a bit like Camel, only more throat hit. lol
 
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