Does this seem right to you?
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Funny thing.
When I searched this Document for "Derived of" I don't get any Matches.
Federal Register | Deeming Tobacco Products To Be Subject to the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, as Amended by the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act; Regulations on the Sale and Distribution of Tobacco Products and Required Warning Statements for Tobacco Products
But when I search for "Derived from", I get 28 Matches. And when I search for "Derived from tobacco", I get 25 Matches.
I wasn't an English Major in college. I Majored in Mathematics. But it seems that there Is a Difference of "Derived of" and "Derived from".
I you Think the FDA can Regulate Batteries, or Cotton Pads, or Spools of Wire, or USB Chargers or Empty LDPE Bottles. That's Cool.
But I really Think you are Reaching with the Semantics here.
Derived of
Derived from
Guacamole
Semantics... now that's hilarious. (But not in a funny - funny way, in a ... funny...... funny...... way)
Tapatyped
oil is a product.plastic is a derivative of oil.the plastic bag at the grocery
store is a derivative of plastic,hence a derivative of oil.
a biodegradable plastic bag has no plastic in it. it is not a derivative
of oil,nor a plastic bag. it is however derived from the plastic bag.
it mimics the plastic bag.it takes the place of the plastic. it
was invented to take the place of the plastic bag.did i mention
it has no plastic in it?
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mike
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Replace "derivative of" with "derived from" in your post.
Does it have the Same Meaning?
Yeah... I wasn't Thinking very Clearly.
Maybe there is some Truth that Avocados curry one's Brain?
Consumption of Potatoes, Avocados and Chickpeas and Cognitive Function in Older Adults - Full Text View - ClinicalTrials.gov
no,not in the context how the FDA will view it.
that's why it has changed from a derivative of,
you need the tobacco or tobacco product to make it,
too,derived from, its a substitute in whole or in part
of tobacco or a tobacco product.
regards
mike
Come on, I quoted you all the definition from the regulations themselves:
Section 201(rr) of the FD&C Act (21 U.S.C. 321(rr)), as amended by the Tobacco Control Act, defines the term "tobacco product" to mean "any product made or derived from tobacco that is intended for human consumption, including any component, part, or accessory of a tobacco product (except for raw materials other than tobacco used in manufacturing a component, part, or accessory of a tobacco product).
Some think that cotton balls, kanthal, and batteries could count as the product, a component, part, or accessory. Some think that they can't be.
Guess who's right? The FDA, until a judge tells them otherwise.
If they wanted to seize all shipments of KGD cotton into the US, they could, and then KGD would have to file an injunction, with evidence of financial harm, in order to have their case heard and possibly have their products released.
Section 201(rr) of the FD&C Act (21 U.S.C. 321(rr)), as amended by the Tobacco Control Act, defines the term "tobacco product" to mean "any product made or derived from tobacco that is intended for human consumption, including any component, part, or accessory of a tobacco product (except for raw materials other than tobacco used in manufacturing a component, part, or accessory of a tobacco product).
Some think that cotton balls, kanthal, and batteries could count as the product, a component, part, or accessory. Some think that they can't be.
Guess who's right? The FDA, until a judge tells them otherwise.
If they wanted to seize all shipments of KGD cotton into the US, they could, and then KGD would have to file an injunction, with evidence of financial harm, in order to have their case heard and possibly have their products released.
if they mean the same thing,why did they change it?Sure thing Mike.
mike
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the difference mike is talking about is between "Derivative of" and "Derived from"
not "derived of" and "derived from"
Not saying there IS a difference, but maybe that will clear a little bit up?
the difference mike is talking about is between "Derivative of" and "Derived from"
not "derived of" and "derived from"
Not saying there IS a difference, but maybe that will clear a little bit up?
Maybe this is a Good Thing.
I mean when the FDA Starts Regulating Cotton Pads and Batteries, think of All those people who use Cotton Pads and Batteries for their for Odd Ball things like a Flashlight. Or to take Makeup off ones face.
Maybe we could get the 99.8% of the People who buy Cotton Pads for something besides Vaping to get on Our Side? And all those Flashlight Freaks who wake up one day and Release that all the 18650 Batteries are Gone.
That, or we could Push to have the Grandfather Date moved up from 2007 to say 2012. Or maybe even 2014? Oh wait, Cotton and Batteries were sold before 2007. So they can probably apply for Significant Equivalence.
The FDA has said they need the authority to regulate before they can investigate. Government studies take years and years...
I didn't say they would, or that it would make sense for them to, only that the regulations as currently written do not preclude them from doing so. And I believe that is entirely intentional.
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