Does this seem right to you?

[bluecat]

I see you haven't abandoned the progressive debate strategy of insults when you can't make an intellectual argument.

Like you know me. Guarantee there is nothing progressive about me. Pure traditional conservatism. What insults?

Spew - Mt Baker Vapor - Electronic Cigarettes

Unicorn Vomit | Vapor Geekz

Facts don't lie, sir.

You have your right to think that those names are a great marketing strategy. I, however, feel it isn't. I feel it is plain, downright stupidity.

 

[bluecat]

If we had Larry Flint on our side, we might actually have a chance...

Oh man... you had to bring up that memory. Back working 14 hour on the night shift and going through school during the day, I ran a Solna machine at a print shop. We hired some dude. Man, if that boy did not come in one day with a Flynt magazine and say. "Hey Blue.. my wife is in a magazine wanna see?" Ohhhh geeeesh, I will be laughing all day..

Ohh and for all you real men.. she wasn't bad either.

 

[caramel]

I still think my idea for the perfect label for e-juice bottles should be the standard labeling requirement.

I would add the flag and a few other patriotic artwork items. Just to savor the discomfort created for those trying to attack them.

 

[DC2]

All those ANTZ are paid by BG.

And Big Pharma.

 

[DC2]

Ohh and for all you real men.. she wasn't bad either.

Pictures or it didn't happen...

 

[bluecat]

Pictures or it didn't happen...

Oh man this was in the middle 80's. Big hair.. no silicone... Just God's gift. He even tried to get me to go on a double date with them. Man.. I had horrible vision of what would happen. I ain't no switch hitter.


Anyway.. it really doesn't matter what we do. Even if we go armed with facts... The government will ignore it. That is not an excuse to stop. It is just reality.

 

[DC2]

I would add the flag and a few other patriotic artwork items

Now that brings up an interesting thought on potential "lines" of e-liquid...

I can't even begin to imagine if someone came out with a "Patriotic" Line.
Or a "Support the Troops" line.

It boggles the mind to even consider how the politicians and ANTZ would handle that.

 

[Lessifer]

Some people really don't like pornography, some people realize it's none of their business what other people want to look at, as long as it's not harmful to others. The law tends to side with the latter.

 

[deepsouth]

Like you know me. Guarantee there is nothing progressive about me. Pure traditional conservatism. What insults?

Spew - Mt Baker Vapor - Electronic Cigarettes

Unicorn Vomit | Vapor Geekz

Facts don't lie, sir.

You have your right to think that those names are a great marketing strategy. I, however, feel it isn't. I feel it is plain, downright stupidity.

My point is as distasteful as it may seem and wether you a agree with it or not. Your opinion doesn't really matter because their liberty outweighs your opinion of what they name their product or the labeling they use. Regulations that force a certain opinion on such things wind up biting everyone in the rear because it will be something else next.

 

[caramel]

Now that brings up an interesting thought on potential "lines" of e-liquid...

I can't even begin to imagine if someone came out with a "Patriotic" Line.
Or a "Support the Troops" line.

It boggles the mind to even consider how the politicians and ANTZ would handle that.

Imagine bottles featuring the flag, poppy fields, and the promise that $1 from the bottle price goes to a veteran supporting charity. Even better if the owner of the business is a war vet himself.

 

[beckdg]

All those ANTZ are paid by BG.

Nope.

Antz are everywhere in every facet of life.

Just like smokers and vapers.

But where they get their money has nothing to do with whether they want vaping gone or not.

By the very moniker that defines them, of course they want it gone...

ANTI NICOTINE and tobacco ZEALOTS

Yep, that about says it...
It's who they are that decides what they want, not how they're paid.

Tapatyped

 

[beckdg]

Now that brings up an interesting thought on potential "lines" of e-liquid...

I can't even begin to imagine if someone came out with a "Patriotic" Line.
Or a "Support the Troops" line.

It boggles the mind to even consider how the politicians and ANTZ would handle that.

Swept under the rug.
Pushed past.
Changed subject.
Etc.

Tapatyped

 

[caramel]

They're the Zealots not the Brain. It's the Brain that decided to pursue a certain interest and is paying the Zealots to help achieve that goal.

 

[bluecat]

My point is as distasteful as it may seem and wether you a agree with it or not. Your opinion doesn't really matter because their liberty outweighs your opinion of what they name their product or the labeling they use. Regulations that force a certain opinion on such things wind up biting everyone in the rear because it will be something else next.

The day my opinion doesn't matter is the day I move to another country. Of course it matters. If it truly didn't you never would have responded.

My whole point. If it not the picture or the name, it will be something else. Other than that, the name is stupid. How does it matter? They lose my sale for the stupid name. Do they care they lost my sale? I let you muddle through that thought.

 

[beckdg]

They're the Zealots not the Brain. It's the Brain that decided to pursue a certain interest and is paying the Zealots to help achieve that goal.

I'm not going to argue that.

Though this is where this particular discourse was initiated...

If all e-liquid makers switched to plain labels TODAY, the ANTZ would simply find old images, like some people have done in this thread.
If all old images were magically removed from view, the ANTZ would simply point to the flavor names, like they already do.
If all flavor names were changed to use alphanumeric codes, like S1 for Strawberry, the ANTZ would hold up a black labeled bottle of S1 and say this strawberry flavored liquid appeals to children, it smells like strawberries.

The only way to appease someone who wants vaping, as we know it, purged from the earth, is to purge it from the earth.

The subject was purely ANTZ.
In that context it is correct from beginning to end.

Once the waters are muddy and we start inferring things such as money has to motivate someone to dislike nicotine and show up at town hall, then this discourse no longer makes sense.

If you'd like to discuss where you're headed with this on its own merit, I'd be happy to.

But it's not going to change the fact...

Tapatyped

 

[bluecat]

Now that brings up an interesting thought on potential "lines" of e-liquid...

I can't even begin to imagine if someone came out with a "Patriotic" Line.
Or a "Support the Troops" line.

It boggles the mind to even consider how the politicians and ANTZ would handle that.

I think a patriotic line would be nice.

I would buy some "Rockets Red Glare" or some of Martha's grape wine.

 

[DC2]

They're the Zealots not the Brain. It's the Brain that decided to pursue a certain interest and is paying the Zealots to help achieve that goal.

Can't disagree with that.

But the Zealots are the ones winning the "Hearts and Minds" of the public nanny-gooders.
And making them look like idiots is where the payoff is.

Can we do it?
Not looking too good right now.

 

[Jode]

Just as FYI there are several juice companies that have patriotic themes, juices and support the troops as well as gear specifically designed with military in mind.

 

[DC2]

Just as FYI there are several juice companies that have patriotic themes, juices and support the troops as well as gear specifically designed with military in mind.

So the ANTZ are leaving then alone for now I guess?

Or maybe they aren't aware of them yet.
If I'm not aware of them, they may not be either.
:shrug:

 

[Jode]

I'm just curious and maybe a little dense but I am trying to figure out why ANTZ would have a hissy fit (cause that is what they have in my opinion) about vape stuff having a patriotic or military (support the troops) theme? Last time I checked our military personnel were all adults.