Does your KFL do this?

[Firestorm]

There IS a top and bottom on the chimney, and unfortunately I forgot how to tell them apart... I will see if I can find something about it.

I saw a post about this recently. I checked my authentic KFL+ and my R91s but both sides of the chimney are identical (no tapering on one side like I saw in a photo). Perhaps this is specific to a brand of clone?

As for over-saturating a wick, I don't know how that's possible. If you get too much liquid into the chamber it will gurgle and likely leak out the air hole. You may have reduced vapor production while you vaporize the excess liquid, but if you later get dry hits it points to an underlying wicking problem and I can't envision it being the result of over-saturation.

 

[xxJollyRogerxx]

With mine (hcigar KF3.1), I noticed that the bottom chimney part looks the same but as soon as I try to screw it on there is resistance to it if it is "upside down". I found that really odd as it looks the same but I can repeat it over and over again so at least with the one I have. I don't try to force it to screw on but flip it over and it glides right on so I can only assume the threads are milled slightly different for the 2 sides but they do look exactly the same.

The only time I get dry hits out of mine is if I over top-fill it. Then the vacuum is all messed up. I cut the wicks using the bunny ear method and it has always been right for me. Never had an issue with the wicks in that sense.

So how are you filling it? And how much juice are you putting in there?

 

[vapdivrr]

There IS a top and bottom on the chimney, and unfortunately I forgot how to tell them apart... I will see if I can find something about it.

As mentioned, if there is a specific side to chimney base, it's not in the authentic kayfuns. I have looked many of time and there is no difference. Even if there was a difference that I cannot see, it doesn't make a difference any how because either orientation works exactly the same.

 

[vapdivrr]

I saw a post about this recently. I checked my authentic KFL+ and my R91s but both sides of the chimney are identical (no tapering on one side like I saw in a photo). Perhaps this is specific to a brand of clone?

As for over-saturating a wick, I don't know how that's possible. If you get too much liquid into the chamber it will gurgle and likely leak out the air hole. You may have reduced vapor production while you vaporize the excess liquid, but if you later get dry hits it points to an underlying wicking problem and I can't envision it being the result of over-saturation.

I read that post as well, maybe he was unsure of actual question because over saturating an initial wick is not that big of a deal, like you said, maybe a slight initial gurgle and that's it

 

[vapdivrr]

I saw a post about this recently. I checked my authentic KFL+ and my R91s but both sides of the chimney are identical (no tapering on one side like I saw in a photo). Perhaps this is specific to a brand of clone?

As for over-saturating a wick, I don't know how that's possible. If you get too much liquid into the chamber it will gurgle and likely leak out the air hole. You may have reduced vapor production while you vaporize the excess liquid, but if you later get dry hits it points to an underlying wicking problem and I can't envision it being the result of over-saturation.

I read that post as well, maybe he was unsure of actual question because over saturating an initial wick is not that big of a deal, like you said, maybe a slight initial gurgle and that's it

I saw a post about this recently. I checked my authentic KFL+ and my R91s but both sides of the chimney are identical (no tapering on one side like I saw in a photo). Perhaps this is specific to a brand of clone?

As for over-saturating a wick, I don't know how that's possible. If you get too much liquid into the chamber it will gurgle and likely leak out the air hole. You may have reduced vapor production while you vaporize the excess liquid, but if you later get dry hits it points to an underlying wicking problem and I can't envision it being the result of over-saturation.

 

[vapdivrr]

With mine (HCigar KF3.1), I noticed that the bottom chimney part looks the same but as soon as I try to screw it on there is resistance to it if it is "upside down". I found that really odd as it looks the same but I can repeat it over and over again so at least with the one I have. I don't try to force it to screw on but flip it over and it glides right on so I can only assume the threads are milled slightly different for the 2 sides but they do look exactly the same.

The only time I get dry hits out of mine is if I over top-fill it. Then the vacuum is all messed up. I cut the wicks using the bunny ear method and it has always been right for me. Never had an issue with the wicks in that sense.

So how are you filling it? And how much juice are you putting in there?

Good point on over filling, you need at least a slight bubble of air after a fill.

 

[Monotremata]

Pretty sure the chimney with the "tapered" end is the EHPro v2.. That's the only one I've ever seen this mentioned with.. My Infinite is exactly the same on both ends and I'm pretty sure its been flipped around a few times after taking it apart..

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[Smann245]

I don't think I saw your juice ratio mentioned. Thick juice needs a larger diameter coil. I vape 100% vg and use a 7/64" bit to wrap coils. It chain vapes just fine. And as mentioned, overfilling locks it up. What's your coil i.d.?

 

[nasca]

In my experience, thicker liquids like 100% VG / max VG are slower to get sucked up into the wick in a suction-based system. and the kayfun has very narrow liquid channels. sometimes it's fine, sometimes I have to dilute the liquid with distilled water -- depends on the particular liquid. thinner liquids = more frequent bubbles which means things are working well.

 

[pauly walnuts]

This may or may not be a constructive comment, but Ill say it anyways.

My vaping experience has never been better since I ditched my kayfun. I loved it for a while and its flavor was unmatched by the protanks that preceded it, but it was a picky picky fickle system. It would run perfectly for weeks at a time, then all of a sudden, malfunctions after malfunctions. I would spend hours re wicking, re coiling, and changing juices. It would eventually get better, but not before it drove me absolutely insane.

I then got a mechanical and a plume veil rda, problem solved. Experimentation yes, hopeless hours of work to fix a simple problem, no. I gave up the convenience of having a tank for the need to drip occasionally. But the best part, the flavor blows the kayfun away, period.

 

[vapdivrr]

This may or may not be a constructive comment, but Ill say it anyways.

My vaping experience has never been better since I ditched my kayfun. I loved it for a while and its flavor was unmatched by the protanks that preceded it, but it was a picky picky fickle system. It would run perfectly for weeks at a time, then all of a sudden, malfunctions after malfunctions. I would spend hours re wicking, re coiling, and changing juices. It would eventually get better, but not before it drove me absolutely insane.

I then got a mechanical and a plume veil rda, problem solved. Experimentation yes, hopeless hours of work to fix a simple problem, no. I gave up the convenience of having a tank for the need to drip occasionally. But the best part, the flavor blows the kayfun away, period.

Authentic? Or clone? Even authentic attys like you said can be picky, believe me I know but clones even more so. No argument on flavor compared to a dripper but it's not night and day imo although I don't own a plume vail. I personally just don't like dripping but no doubt, if one doesn't mind, it's way easier to build and vape a dripper compared to an rta. So for ease of use and flavor, a dripper is king, but for those who don't like to drip, a kayfun is one of the best around and does take many many builds to perfect.

 

[deach]

It can take a bit if fiddling to get a dripper right too. I have a Valkyrie that I use a lot and just last night had to redo the cotton in it. The flavor was just muted beyone belief. I simply used less (which is usually better) and it came back to where my favorite juice was just that. I got lucky with the Kayfun I guess. Bought authentic right off the bat. The fellow at the vape shop showed me how to do it with yarn, and when I don't feel like messing with that I just use one of the many videos I've seen online and it just works. Yes, when it's fuller I have to sometimes crack the top a bit open to prime it better but, all in all I've never had a tank that worked so well and had such flavor.

Also the airflow in the KFL+ v2 is not what most drippers so, that yields to a different type of inhale. I don't think honestly there is any rebuildable that doesn't have a bit of a learning curve to get it "just right".

 

[Tontus]

Hey gys i just wanted to post an update. Short story is that my problems have finally been solved!

Short story is that i posted about my problems in a local thai forum, turns out one of the mods lived close to me and he offered me to come over n take a look at this frikin kafun that was driving me insane!

He ttok it appart and said that even though its an authetic the juice channels were really shallow! He took a dremel to the juice channels and made them a bit deeper and wider, built a 1.7 coil and wicked it with rayon filled it up and told me to see how it vapes. The thing is now a steam and flavor monster!

I rewicked it myself and still vaping perfect! Im really happy to know that it was not really me and that incan in fact make a proper wick for the kf! One of my hobbies is flyfishing and i tie flies, knowing i can do that and not be able to wick an atty was just driving me mad thinking it could not possibly that complex and inwas right!

So if others are having some issues like me maybe think about taking yenold dremel to them juice channels!

Cheers!
Tontus

 

[wheelie]

Glad you got it working. CHEERS!

Dremel did nothing to help my Kayfun Mini's from FastTech. One head I could never get enough juice to the wicks. They went in the garbage can. LOL

 

[crxess]

Any atomizer that works good should always work good - Authentic or clone.
The only variable is HUMAN intervention.

Any change is almost always created in error not malfunction. Poor rebuild, Drop Damage, Heat Damage, Etc.
None of which it the atomizers fault.

Like I have often said, I have many Kayfuns and now am venturing into Orchid RTA's. They work and they work well. I rarely have any issue and when I do, it is obvious I screwed up. The fix is quick and the reward - Outstanding Vaping.

Op says 1-n-5 builds, always about the same works great.
This tells me the builds are on the edge of failure and need to be adjusted.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results.

For a simple Kayfun build that generally works well visit my blog.
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*of note - The wicking does NOT have to be to thin or to thick to induce problems. To long is even worse. (think blocked channels)

**Note 2 - Kayfun chimney:
Some Clones come with a main section with tapered end on one side. This is in case one decides to install an o-ring in the chimney cap. It allows the cap to remain flush to the main chimney.
Two of my clones came this way.

 

[vapdivrr]

Any atomizer that works good should always work good - Authentic or clone.
The only variable is HUMAN intervention.

Any change is almost always created in error not malfunction. Poor rebuild, Drop Damage, Heat Damage, Etc.
None of which it the atomizers fault.

Like I have often said, I have many Kayfuns and now am venturing into Orchid RTA's. They work and they work well. I rarely have any issue and when I do, it is obvious I screwed up. The fix is quick and the reward - Outstanding Vaping.

Op says 1-n-5 builds, always about the same works great.
This tells me the builds are on the edge of failure and need to be adjusted.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results.

For a simple Kayfun build that generally works well visit my blog.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

*of note - The wicking does NOT have to be to thin or to thick to induce problems. To long is even worse. (think blocked channels)

**Note 2 - Kayfun chimney:
Some Clones come with a main section with tapered end on one side. This is in case one decides to install an o-ring in the chimney cap. It allows the cap to remain flush to the main chimney.
Two of my clones came this way.

Good point my friend. Not sure if it was the OP's post you were responding to or another post I was responding to but your right. In the one post I was responding to, I did ask if it was a clone or authentic and didn't realize they had mentioned that sometimes it worked and sometimes not. I do have to agree that if the device works half the time and not the other, then it has to be a build issue and not the device.

 

[deach]

Yes if it works once it should work every time unless something breaks. (seal, tank, etc…) I know even in drippers I have experienced times where it was good and not. As I don't own any kayfun clones I cannot comment on some of what was said here but, I agree if it worked once it should work every time if built right.