Doesn't add up for me...

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Shadoza

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Hello. Well, I am pretty new to vaping. I smoked a pack and a half a day for about 20 years. I didn't go to vaping to quit smoking, it was more of a curiosity thing for me. I have done quite a bit of research involving how much juice equals a pack of regular cigarettes blah blah blah. My estimates show me that about 1 ml of 24mg juice is equal to about 1 pack of cigarettes. My juice use backs that up as well. There have been about three or four times where I have vaped so much, that I KNOW I was having a nicotine OD. I was jittery, shaky, and I couldn't stop pacing for about a half hour.

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I have read posts of people vaping about 10ml per day. HOLY COW, I mean, I love nicotine, tobacco. I have used tobacco/nicotine in every way imaginable except through injection. Snus, Snuff, Chew, Cigarettes, Cigars, Pipes, and recently, VAPING. If there are more ways let me know.

I have gotten more of a nicotine buzz from vaping than by any other source. Except from when I was a teenager and a cigarette gave me a hell of a buzz.

I just don't see how you guys can vape 10 ml a day of high nicotine content juice.

The question is...

AM I DOING SOMETHING WRONG? I would consider myself a moderately heavy smoker, but my vaping habits are minimal to what I have seen here. Also, I am not really smoking cigarettes. I have one every few days.
 

DivisionMatrix

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First, you're not doing anything wrong. Everyone's vaping habits are different. For example I usually start my day with some 12 or 18 mg/ml juice but settle down to 6 mg/ml to chain vape at night (I vape 3-4ml a day). It's whatever works for you. If you find yourself getting to much nic but still wanting to vape you should try some lower strength juice
 

JonnyKain

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You are definitely not doing anything wrong. Personally when I started vaping I read all the calculators that said that my pack a day habit meant I should be vaping on 24mg juice. 24mg gives me od symptoms as well, and does the same to all of my friends that have had a similar pack a day habit. I have found that 11mg-16mg works great for me, and it takes less puffs to feel satisfied than off of an analogue. I don't think I've ever been able to vape through 10ml in a day.

Cheers, and happy vaping!
 

Rosa

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...My estimates show me that about 1 ml of 24mg juice is equal to about 1 pack of cigarettes.


Except that we don't absorb nicotine as well from vaping as we did from smoking (because of the chemicals they add).

So, for example: newport 100's (and camel unfiltereds) have about 3mg nicotine per cig in them (per INHALED smoke) so if you smoke a pack a day that's 60mg of nic. absorbed.

Now, the average vaper uses 3ml of 24mg juice per day and that's 72mg per day BUT studies have shown we only absorb somewhere between 10%-40% of the nicotine we inhale from vaping so we are actually only getting about 30mg or so (fully half the amount as when we smoked).

Notice for this comparison I used the cigs that have the most nicotine per cig and the 40% absorption estimate rather than the 10% estimate -- so it should be pretty fair/accurate.

So, folks like Hoosier who actually DO use 8ml of 36mg are probably getting about 100-120mg per day, equal to about 2 packs of smokes BUT if Hoosier is only absorbing 10% then he's getting about 30mg per day, same as the rest of us. (If my math is good, which I think it is)
 

Jennie O

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I can't imagine 10ml...but I don't use it hardly at all during the day except on weekends. I wasn't a heavy smoker either though, and ultra lights at that. So when I got 24mg samples that gave me way more a buzz than I was used to, but 18mg is good for me. I've never figured out the math part of liquid vs cigarettes. Don't really care actually, I no longer smoke, that's all I care about!
 

Pneathery

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I smoked between 3-5 PACKS a day (the 5a day was when I was really stressed) I found myself at times buying a carton of smokes on Monday after work, and by Tuesday when I came home there would be only 2-3 packs left in the carton, my wife smokes too, but after I quit she bought a carton, and it lasted her TWO WEEKS! So I was a pretty heavy smoker, and am a heavy vapor. I have at times found myself having emptied a newly filled, inserted tank in under 15 minutes. What is that like 1.5 ml, well I fill them 3/4 full so they drain well. But I do go through ALOT sometimes. I was just at church, waiting on my wife. I was out in the car surfing this site, for an hour, and ended up emptying one new tank cart, refilling it, and by the time I got home that one was empty as well. So in less then an hour and a half.....3ml.
I VAPE 24MG. When I first started I bought 90ML of 16MG, and it made me feel sick, actually physically sick. I felt "chemically" all over, I wanted to smoke so bad, thought that this vaping thing was a HUGE mistake, couldn't stand to inhale anymore, and didn't know what I ever saw in it (when I first started I had a plain bottle of clear juice from a friend, I have no idea what was in it, or the strength. But I will say that I could BARELY VAPE it. I definatley couldn't chain VAPE it. When I did.......I felt like I had smoked way to much) my wife was going to try vaping, but thought 16 was WAY too low for her, so I ordered her some 24MG menthol juice, and I started chain vaping that when I got it. All of those symptoms went away! My chemically feeling went away, I LOVED vaping again, and all of that. The 24 didn't do it for my wife, so I then purchased 36MG for her, and when that came in, WOW i also got my new tank system with that order, and I was way more excited about the juice. Jenny vapes the 36 all day, I VAPE it every now and then only when I'm REALLY CRAVING, but everyone is different.
Think about it, when I smoked, on really bad days I would smoke up to 200 cigarettes a day! I literally chain smoked all day, I haven't added up how much I VAPE, but I'm guessing it would be between 6-12 tank cartridges.
 

LastoftheBreed

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I can't imagine going through 10ml of juice per day and my PV seems to be stuck to my face some days! On average, I probably go through about 3-5ml. On a really bad day I can go through 6, but that's about the max.

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