Dont Dry Burn Your Kanthal
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Nah mate, when wire is oxidising it will give off a smoke and taste harsh so dont let your wick go to dry if your gonna try this no oxidising the wire trick to get amazing flavour & make sure you fill your coil fully with wick nice & snug orelse if not you will get hot spots, a gap between the wick and coil which will oxi while your vaping on it and it dont taste good atall, wash your wire with dish soap and rinse off well before coilling, skip the dry burn or any flaming of the wire
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I pulse all my new microcoils and have never seen smoke come off of one, unless a random cat hair or something happened to get onto it (3 cats and a dog here so yeah it happens). As State O' Flux already pointed out, the wire is coated so it develops a layer of alumina when its heated that helps insulate it and conduct heat more efficiently. This is the whole point of pulsing a brand new coil before its wicked. Kanthal is specifically designed for industrial heating applications like furnaces and whatnot, it certainly does not get 'destroyed' when its heated. Annealing it with a BIC lighter, now thats completely unnecessary since Kanthals already annealed.
i know you werent quoting me but i did also mention smoke on the annealing, what i really ment was that wire will give you a funny taste if your trying to vape it whilst its annealing, the taste was my so called smoke, the first coils i tried like this i had rayon wick to loose and one outside wrap from each of the coils oxidised on the first pull, i changed to cotton wick after this as its a little less hit and miss on the snuggness with the end wraps, if anything the cotton swells so for me was a no brainer.
I presume so long as you have properly dish soap washed and rinsed or ultrasonic cleaned your wire or are not oxidising/annealing your coil while your vaping it then all is safe?
i dont taste any metal from unoxidised wire, so far i've tried SS317l, Ti & A1kanthal, nichrome is nxt on the list....
i dont taste any metal from unoxidised wire, so far i've tried SS317l, Ti & A1kanthal, nichrome is nxt on the list....
I've never tasted metal (unless it's a brand new RTA) and I always pulse my coils lightly (usually with a regulated device set to a low wattage, usually around 10-13 watts)... I don't know if it's just because I've developed the habit but I just don't think I'd trust it to be completely free of hot spots if I didn't make sure before wicking, but I pretty much exclusively used a (tensioned) micro coil. It's also necessary to clean and continue using a coil while re-wicking, I've no intentions of wrapping a brand new coil once a week. But hey, if it's an improvement for you, that's great and thanks for sharing.
Nichrome is more resistant to oxidation and is said to be corrosion resistant, so if that's the concern why not just use nichrome?
Nichrome is more resistant to oxidation and is said to be corrosion resistant, so if that's the concern why not just use nichrome?
With regard to Kanthal: spaced coils is where it all began and are in fact really good. But if you use contact coils you pretty much have to pulse to get rid of hot spots, because if you don't pulse it the hot spots will be in the coil while you vape. Choose your poison.
Yeah contact coils almost always have hot spots in them. Nothing 3 or 4 short pulses cant fix though. Id rather take care of it right away then have the coil pop on me in the middle of a vape.. Even using a Coil Master to make 'perfect' micros, theres always one lurking about in there youll need to pulse out.
yeah guys you are now talking of contact coils and that you'd rather pulse but the whole idea here is to use spaced coils with no parts of the coils touching legs etc so you dont have to worry about Hspots and the main gain here is the not oxidising and it is a big gain, i've taken my stapled staggered fused clapton super coils out of all my atty's and swapped to this as its far superior and not hard, even my cotton wicks have stayed as clean as when i installed em and i'd go as far to say they look to outrun the wicks in a coil/s that have been oxi'd, shiney coils clean wick
ive been converted for sure, try it, and as i said ive made pretty much every kind of fancy coil going, im not gonna say no more lol
ive been converted for sure, try it, and as i said ive made pretty much every kind of fancy coil going, im not gonna say no more lol
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Not, dry burning Nickel and titanium is probably good advise. BUT that advise is not really valid with Kanthal OR nichrome. Both or these wires USE the oxidation as a PROTECTANT for the wire. Oh and HOT spots are NOT reserved for contact coils. Hot spotting is a property of the wire NOT the build.
Heavy you are a genius. This really works, who woulda thought!
I'm not all that clued up on wether certain metal's can be bad or not if they havent been dry burned but i've been going at it with a spaced dual 22g, SS317L, 2.5mm id, 5wraps, 0.1ohm & cotton for a little while and .. well .. im loving it, its defo better taste, i have some 20 or 21g titanium i will be trying aswell very soon, thanks
ps. i cant stop looking at my shiney coils, im gonna havta take a pic for you hahahaa
HI Sippery,i have vaped about 3 mills so far with the ''unburnt'' Kanthal coil in my Magma dripper and the coils are still shiny,the coils do not gunk up as fast thats for sure.Im still getting nice flavour from the KF4 still too.
Hi Heavyrocker, im around 24hrs in so far on one atty with this 'unburnt' wire, it's 0.08ohm 21g Ti, 2.5id dual, 8wrap each and it tastes exactly the same as when i took my first vape from it, very impressed, for such a hot build it's probably also guzzled about 3ml of juice but the cotton wick is still that off white colour as it was new and i have no gunking, nothing appearing on the coils or between wraps, they still look spanking.
I said to someone over a year ago that there is something kinda special about a fresh coil that tastes so dam good! but its short lived and that maybe this was the reason why i wasnt contented enough to just stick with my latest coil, i think you found the thing that i was chasing, no need for me to make any fancy coils anymore.
Thankyou
I said to someone over a year ago that there is something kinda special about a fresh coil that tastes so dam good! but its short lived and that maybe this was the reason why i wasnt contented enough to just stick with my latest coil, i think you found the thing that i was chasing, no need for me to make any fancy coils anymore.
Thankyou
yeah sure, wrap it tight on your kuro first then disgard your kuro handle, leaving the coil on the mandral grab both the legs with pliers and pull them apart, away from each other along the mandrel then using fingers push them together a little then take mandrel out and squeeze the wraps back together with finger and thumb and that should be it, you should have even spaced wraps.
dont forget to wash with dish soap and rinse good before wrapping and no burning the wire or pulsing untill you have it installed with wick and juicey
Yep. Send two wires into your Kuro Coiler like you normally would do one, and proceed to wrap (what is basically) a parallel wrap. Then, take one of the wires and unwind it and pull it out when done with that one coil. What you will have remaining on the coiler is one coil completely even and equally spaced! Easy. Breezy. Beautiful. Cover girl.
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The man that created them (JKuro) is a genius! I just bought a mechanical from him, but that's another story altogether.
Another way to get the spacing nice and even is to wrap onto a small bolt, and then unscrew the bolt from your coil. UNC or metric course, not fine.
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