Don't understand people!!!

[Bwilly]

So my neighbor came up to me today and was interested in vaping. She was aware that I quit smoking with and e-cig and wanted to show me her new kit she just ordered. It was the traditional one that looks like a cigarette with only 2 flavors (tobacco and menthol). I of course showed her mine. My Echo and my VMod. Showed her how I drip with different flavors and gave her one of my cartos with blueberry muffin flavor in it.

Seen her today and she said "I just have to quit" In other words not interested. I am so frustrated she is the 4th person I told about the benefits of vaping and I keep getting the same exuses 1. I don't want to replace one addiction for another. 2. I don't own a computer 3. It's too expensive. 4. I just want to quit period (which most of them won't quit).

I get the whole thing about people won't quit until they're ready, but it seems like a no-brainer. No tar, no chemicals DUHH!! Just feel like shaking people and say ARE YA KIDDIN ME!!!

I just wanted to share this whole vaping experience and let em know they don't have to smoke analogs anymore I thought they would be just as excited as me. It just seems no one is listening

I have decided from here on if someone has ??? I will direct them to this site and give them a card. Then drop the subject.

Thanks for listening. I don't expect any replies just wanted to vent. Because obviously I don't have any one outside of this forum who are willing too listen. Thank you to any one who reads my rant

 

[classwife]

Awww... ((hug))...keep in mind, you have planted seeds, it's in their minds. You've done good.

 

[Ratchet]

You're going to run into those kid of people everywhere. One of them is my own husband. Even after 3 months of me not touching a real cigi, he is refusing to even try my Lavatube or even my old Greensmoke............. He thinks vaping is ridiculous, sucking on a battery. There is no convincing him so I pretty much gave up on that.... He calls my LT a "peace-pipe" and doesn't want to switch. I even still have lots of Greensmoke cartos that he could use but nope, he doesn't want to.....

 

[sawitall]

nice sig ...anyway ive had that issue a few times as well. most common one ive ever heard is "its cool but these ecigarettes dont work...i have a blu"

 

[erictho]

i had a few coworkers seem really interested in my pv's cuz they said they really wanted to quit. maybe i am idealistic, but if people bother to expend the time and energy to say something i will believe them.
those coworkers are still smoking while whining that they need to quit, but they don't want to bother with acquainting themselves with the alternative. it has been 5 months since i've started there...yep, they're all still smoking. i remind them that even though their goal is to kick the entire habit, they can vape for now and still quit cigarettes. i get a little more than a shifty eyed glance and a small "yeah" in response. i guess despite my idealism, people don't always mean what they say. i've received all the above you have. maybe smoking while announcing to the world you want to quit, need to quit, and will quit soon is reassuring and can be classified under "***t smokers say". >.>
i have two coworkers from another job vaping. one is vaping exclusively, the other i haven't seen vape since march but she says she uses it. they spent at least three months smoking cigarettes because they "just wanted to quit altogether".
i warmed my mom up to the idea of vaping. when my precise + came in i gave her my two 1100mah ego batts, 20 ml of liquid in two different flavors, 4 cartos (2 prefilled), some drip bottles, and a case. i suggested that she give one to my dad to use, and that if they only use them half the time that they should last all day. she hasn't told my dad about it at all, nor has she used them since i've given them to her on tuesday.
my dad may be a little more receptive in humoring me while helping himself, but i don't know for sure yet. i'm just glad i didn't go through with my plan of setting them up with starter kits and liquid.
i dunno, whatever. if they love smoking their cigarettes, i hope they'll love their oxygen tanks too.

 

[Sev00]

Agreed you planted the seed. My buddy gave me the information 8 to 10 months before I switched over. I kinda thought he was nuts. For me it was really a lack of knowledge on the subject. Or lack of willingness to listen or find it. But finally I was in the right mental place, and my buddy was still willing to help me get started.

So I am saying your efforts are not in vain. When you plant some crops come up quickly, others take time to germinate. And there will always be a portion of the seeds that don't sprout. But a harvest will come in.

Sev

 

[jj2]

So my neighbor came up to me today and was interested in vaping. She was aware that I quit smoking with and e-cig and wanted to show me her new kit she just ordered. It was the traditional one that looks like a cigarette with only 2 flavors (tobacco and menthol). I of course showed her mine. My Echo and my VMod. Showed her how I drip with different flavors and gave her one of my cartos with blueberry muffin flavor in it.

Seen her today and she said "I just have to quit" In other words not interested. I am so frustrated she is the 4th person I told about the benefits of vaping and I keep getting the same exuses 1. I don't want to replace one addiction for another. 2. I don't own a computer 3. It's too expensive. 4. I just want to quit period (which most of them won't quit).

I get the whole thing about people won't quit until they're ready, but it seems like a no-brainer. No tar, no chemicals DUHH!! Just feel like shaking people and say ARE YA KIDDIN ME!!!

I just wanted to share this whole vaping experience and let em know they don't have to smoke analogs anymore I thought they would be just as excited as me. It just seems no one is listening

I have decided from here on if someone has ??? I will direct them to this site and give them a card. Then drop the subject.

Thanks for listening. I don't expect any replies just wanted to vent. Because obviously I don't have any one outside of this forum who are willing too listen. Thank you to any one who reads my rant

We've all run into that. In one case, when I told the daughter the I don't want to pick up a different habit, the daughter just shook her head like I'd done several times.

Awww... ((hug))...keep in mind, you have planted seeds, it's in their minds. You've done good.

And Classy is right!

 

[Filibuster]

I wouldn't sweat it, man. You found an alternative that works for you, but for one reason or another it's not for everyone. Personally, I don't try to impose vaping on anyone but if someone has questions, and they generally do, I'm happy to give them as much information as they are comfortable listening to at that time. I know it's difficult, especially when it is someone who is close and you and you care about their health.

I do lots of cool stuff that in my opinion everyone else should be doing... Vaping, have a Tivo, (no commercials, yay!) shave with an older DE razor, (15 cent blades that give a better shave than those 5 blade monstrosities, woohoo!), build my own computers for gaming (2x the performance for the same price). After a while of being a walking commercial of how folks should be doing something your way, you may find that they start avoiding you in the hallways!

 

[Zooker]

You've given your neighbor the info, and I'm sure you've made yourself available should she have any questions or need help with something specific. It's really all you can do.

My friend who got me vaping suggested it to me several times when I expressed I was having difficulty quitting smoking. She quit smoking and started vaping a full 2 months before I finally asked her where she got her stuff and how much was it--I went to that shop immediately that day after work and bought a kit. Done.
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My husband on the other hand, jeez---I've tried all I can. I offer him vapes constantly, trying different flavors, different throat hit, all to no avail. He might take a vape or two if he's out of smokes and doesn't want to drive to the store, but that usually ends with him making a pathetic choking noise and saying "I just can't do it, it makes me cough" (uhh you're not doing it right dear) or "It's just not the same as a cigarette" (no dear, it's not.) Then I have to listen to him hack at night, and exclaim that "tomorrow I'm going to quit smoking" and then tomorrow comes and he spends another $10 on a pack of cigarettes.

A couple weeks ago, I thought I'd finally converted him. He vaped all day on my sweet Koa Ha-y-n wood mod, with a carto filled with USA tobacco flavor. The next day, he was back smoking. I told him he was a vaping sissy.

I'm well stocked with a wide assortment of pv's, mods, cartos, clearos and juice--so if and when he decides that he's finally ready to "come over to the dark side" I'll be here waiting, and ready to set him up. Pfffft.

 

[Wickedvalve]

I know how you feel. I've been vaping for a couple of months and everyone seems so interested in it, but when it comes down to it they still smoke. I bought 2 starter kits, one for my wife and one for my aunt. My aunt hasn't touched hers and my wife says she uses it but I know she doesn't (one carto seems to last her about a week) I call BS on that one. I guess in the end people well do what they want to do.

 

[icanbreatheagain]

this is the worst aspect of vapeing in my opinion. You get that huge feeling of accomplishment after that point that you know you wont touch cigs again and all you want to do is share the experience to help others, but they heard from somewhere they are bad or explode and wont or cant research the facts. i decided today after a long talk with a smoker, that im all about me and my family living healthier from now on. ill still be willing to help anyone whos interested. but i will no longer go out of my way to explain the benefits to a smoker in an attempt to convert them.
selfish? absolutely, but its far better to just know that we are healthier with our decision to vape and not stress over other peoples weakness or ignorance.
just my opinion

 

[Bwilly]

Some people are so resistant to change. It's annoying sometimes. Thank You Classwife for you post made me feel better and Thanks everyone for your support. So glad we have this forum nice to know there are people who understand our new journey.

 

[Iffy]

I went though a couple of episodes similar to yours early on into my vaping conversion. I just couldn't understand how anyone could ignore my success (after 45 years of 2 PaD)!

Looong story short... I just kept on vaping any and every where I could. Believe me, there are many 'rewards' to be reaped. I don't push, but am ready to unload my happiness, vaping knowledge and aid to assist those that have a true desire to drop da 'bakky.

Thus far I have 18 v'verts (vaping converts) that I support in their journey into and through their dramatic life change and vaping evolution. I try to give them my links to da sites I use, but no! I'm now their anchor, supplier (aka 'pusher') and mentor in their vaping experiences (lil' cure for insecurity or laziness).

Hang in dere and don't stress yourself out. Just do your thang and the willing will seek your guidance and knowledge!

How many can claim being a factor in extending someone's life... ?

 

[Mr.Mann]

Yep, been there. I think we all have to remember, the majority of us (I believe) sought this out for ourselves. So, others might be looking for instant gratification and satiation, where as we spent a great deal of time and effort figuring it out.

 

[TravTech]

I wasn't even looking to quit, had no intentions of trying to quit any time soon. If anything I was really more concerned with saving money. Smoking 5-6 cartons a month @ $60 per carton was just getting out of hand.

So I at first I just got curious, then I got sucked in by all the cool gadgetry. Realizing we could DiY our own juices was the icing on the cake so to speak.

Next thing you know, I'm 2 weeks without cigarettes and didn't even notice until someone asked me. Then it was a month, then 2 months, and on it goes...

I guess the key is that if it's done right, you're not really depriving yourself of any of the pleasure you're convinced you're getting from cigarettes. Though I recommend finding a juice similar to your old habit to start off with in order to help with the initial "fooling of the mind and body" process, once you're passed that, all of the other great flavors end up making it even more pleasurable than before.

Not sure how many would consider smoking a hobby, but I see the hobby aspect of vaping as also adding to the pleasure. Though not everyone wants or needs a new hobby, but that aspect is pretty much optional anyway.

None of the above even begins to address any of the added health or community aspects involved either.

There's gotta be a way into their heads, your challenge is to find the angle that might interest them. Whether it be through health, financial, community, tinkering, DiYing being similar to cooking, or any other positive aspects I may not have mentioned.

 

[Lightseeker]

Don't get discouraged Bwilly. Sometimes it just takes time. People I take breaks with have seen me day after day with my KGO. I go out there and vape away. There were a few questions at first. I let a few try a battery and a cartomizer for the day but no real interest. Then one guy in my department out of the clear blue asked me about my KGO..he then purchased his own and he's been happy. No questions..he's just doing his thing. Then recently a gal from another department was very serious about vaping. She asked me what I was using..next thing I know she said she ordered a KGO starter kit...wow! I think she's really going to be successful. We bought our first clearomizers together awwwww talk about bonding And now that there is talk about yet another cigarette tax increase one of her co-workers is very interested and she's going to let her borrow her battery. That's what so neat..generally we're all so willing to share what we have with others to help them find a better way.

It just takes time and perseverance for people to see us vaping day after day and being totally happy with it. Some of them do lose their apprehension about vaping..hmmmm there must be something to this after all

 

[Pappy]

A friend of mine quit last summer and used an e-cig kit purchased at the mall to help her through. She let me take a couple of puffs on it. Then I quit smoking cold turkey in August using the patch. But in February, I started having some family trouble and the stress drove me back to smoking.

So I remembered my friend and her e-cig, and I did some research online. Just as I was trying to decide between Blu, Greensmoke, etc., I discovered a link to this forum and learned about the many options for much better PVs. I bought a KGO, some cartos, juices, etc. and I'm well on my way to becoming a non-smoker.

The point of this story is that sometimes an idea gets planted but the person doesn't act on it for a while. Perhaps you have planted the idea with your friends and it will sprout when the time is right. Don't get frustrated. You've done a good thing. But, ultimately everyone has to live their own life and make their own choices.

 

[VapRon]

I had similar expieriences as mentioned befor. One friend of mine whom I desperately wanted to quit refused right out.
It did not help any that I was living proof that after40 years one could quit smoking without the drama.
At one point I decided not to talk about it anymore as well as not talk about smoking in general. And watcha know? One day he said" gimmie that thing. Now he doesent smoke anymore go figure.
I have tried to convert some neighbors but they look at vaping as most in the public do and thats where I see the problem.
As long the FDA and ANZT are successful painting the picture they prefer the public to see, thats how it will be seen.
Something wierd, not good for your health or whatever. That will however change. Guys and Gals from the vaping world will slowly but sure change that in there imidiate surrounding and science as well as Dr's will do the rest. There is no way they can keep a lid on that in the long run.

 

[AttyPops]

Re: Title
1) I don't understand them either
2) They don't understand me, so we're even.

<snip> Hang in dere and don't stress yourself out. Just do your thang and the willing will seek your guidance and knowledge!

How many can claim being a factor in extending someone's life... ?

The guy with the giant green ostrich looking at the mail truck is correct. Don't quit setting a good example. But don't set yourself up for having your expectations dashed either. So, grain of salt on these things. It works for some, but not everyone. And like you said they have to be ready for it and really want to quit.

 

[jkmtwo]

A quick story, there is a guy I know, who recently stepped, and I mean, stepped, in to vaping, before he did he was telling me that he was going to buy one of the more well known kits *cough* sold at Walgreens *cough*, I practically begged him not to, I told him, its overpriced, it sucks, I tried to get him to an 808 or an Ego, but his response, "well my friend has been using this and he likes it", how long I ask, "2 weeks", I tell him, 8 months for me.

Needless to say, some people have more money than they have sense, he bought this worthless piece of turd..........and guess what..................2 months later..........



HE STILL SMOKES