Why do some people think you have to quit vaping after quitting smoking??

[srpurdy]

I get asked this a lot and my answer is I was a smoker who loved smoking but didn't love the side effects. Now as a vaper I love vaping and thus far the lack of side effects. If I can vape without impacting my health I don't plan to quit because I enjoy it.

Addicted? Possibly. But in my opinion it's more akin to a person dropping processed foods for organic, they still enjoy eating but in a healthier manner.

I'm addicted, and also addicted to coffee which most people are lol. Pizza also! So whatever. I mean we all have something. That's what I say to people usually. We are not really any different. It is society that decides to group us into a group of "bad" people. It's okay to be addicted to coffee, and some people are now addicted to energy drinks. That .... will kill you faster than cigarettes, but we don't see giant warning labels on those lol. To me it's hypocritical, and I personally have no time for that. I'll just make my life simple and enjoy doing what I enjoy doing lol. I'm a social anomaly. Normality is not my forte

 

[Jman8]

My dual using self keeps wondering why people feel the need to quit smoking. LOL.

I think smoker's guilt is the reason why 'we' feel that quitting is a good thing. Doesn't help that ANTZ are around to make sure that guilt is propped up and met with propaganda in case anyone chooses to stick to something they actually enjoy doing.

 

[Rizzyking]

My need to quit smoking had nothing to do with guilt of any kind or anyone else's opinion it was spending the first ten minutes of every morning coughing my guts up, wheezing like a man 30 years older then I am and waking up in the night as my breathing was so bad. There are many valid reasons to give up smoking that are completely personal and as adults it isn't anyone else's business why someone gives up.

 

[Lessifer]

My dual using self keeps wondering why people feel the need to quit smoking. LOL.

I think smoker's guilt is the reason why 'we' feel that quitting is a good thing. Doesn't help that ANTZ are around to make sure that guilt is propped up and met with propaganda in case anyone chooses to stick to something they actually enjoy doing.

This is just my personal opinion/experience, but I don't feel like I HAVE to continue to not smoke. I don't want to smoke anymore. I now don't think that smoking was as bad for me as I was led to believe, but I do feel demonstrably better than I did when I was smoking. I'm not sure I could smoke moderately like you, but the few times I've had a puff or two over the past three years have solidified the fact in my mind that I don't want to. It's no longer enjoyable for me. That is not a put down on you, you enjoy smoking and I'm glad that vaping allows you to do it at a level that you are comfortable with.

 

[AndriaD]

I went from 12mg to 3mg within less than a year.

I went from 10mg to 5mg between April and December 2015, very easily -- really I barely even noticed it, other than the milder TH. But it sure has helped my Popsicle Paws this winter! Mission accomplished, because that's really the only reason I cared about reducing my nic level. Now that I know how easy it is, I know I could easily drop to 3mg, if it seemed necessary or desirable to do so. Right now it doesn't; I have normally-warm hands -- I can operate touch-screens without them giving me a bunch of backtalk!

Andria

 

[smacuser]

edited out - my bad. sorry.

 

[srpurdy]

My need to quit smoking had nothing to do with guilt of any kind or anyone else's opinion it was spending the first ten minutes of every morning coughing my guts up, wheezing like a man 30 years older then I am and waking up in the night as my breathing was so bad. There are many valid reasons to give up smoking that are completely personal and as adults it isn't anyone else's business why someone gives up.

Yeah same here. the breathing trouble, and having trouble falling sleep because I had trouble to find a position I could actually sleep in without feeling like I was gonna die lol. That's all completely gone now too which is awesome. I don't miss that nasty taste in the morning either.

I never once gave a .... what other people think of me, or any habit I have. everyone has their problems. Some people just like to pretend they're saints when they're really not better lol.

 

[93gc40]

Because some people started vaping, to quit the HABIT of smoking. Vaping covers the smoking part, but not the HABIT part.
As of this point, at 1 year SMOKE free. Goody, I will be less likely to die from cancer.?.?
It's OK, I didn't want to quit smoking. I wanted a cheaper way to smoke. I still spend my day inhaling something that looks a lot like smoke when I exhale. Granted with much better flavor and healthier. But at this point, I am still "smoking" just without the smoke and stink. Heck I am even saving some money. Cool.... The HABIT part???? Well that may even be worse. Considering the time and effort to smoke cigarettes vs to Vape. It's MUUUUUUCH easier to smoke cigarettes. I know that if I had to stop vaping today, Saturday night.... I would be at a shop by Monday for, a pipe and some tobacco or a box of cigars.. I doubt I will ever go back to commercial packaged cigarettes, but a stoagie or a bowl would be required.

 

[haleysdadda]

I love it when smokers come up to me and ask me questions about my mods (I hold one in each hand, my eVic with Cyclone tank and Dimitri mech mod with dripper) If they're feeling brave, they'll ask to try it. I'll gladly hand it over and they puff on it and go 'Wow...does that taste good'
If I had a nickel for every time that's happened, I'd have a buttload of nickels.

Y would you put nickels in your ....? He said with a look of concern on his face! ROTFLMAO!

 

[mcclintock]

Smoking is an on-demand administration of nicotine. The patch is a constant input of nicotine and therefore requires INCREASING total nicotine input. It shows either a misunderstanding of the usage of nicotine, or an attempt to make it less desirable. NRT gum is on-demand but has a slow effect. Vaping is slower acting than smoking but you get to vape while you wait!

It is true that vaping is very appealing and enjoyable, and that can make it hard to quit if that is desired, but the dual assault of inhaling pleasure and nicotine can be isolated so it is not at the level of smoking. If the goal is maximum self-improvement as defined for some reason to fully quit, it is still a powerful means but not as clearly advantageous, at least until it is found other methods don't work due to the disadvantages listed in my first paragraph.

I think there will always be things humans enjoy that aren't perfectly healthy, and denying that is fighting your own nature. Vaping can be part of a good compromise.

P.S.: Both NRT and vaping generally involve a withdrawal from Whole Tobacco Alkaloids (WTAs), naturally-occurring chemicals not part of refined nicotine known to have MAOI-like effects. Whole tobacco is more satisfying and more addictive than vaping. The vaper really has quit something.

 

[AndriaD]

P.S.: Both NRT and vaping generally involve a withdrawal from Whole Tobacco Alkaloids (WTAs), naturally-occurring chemicals not part of refined nicotine known to have MAOI-like effects. Whole tobacco is more satisfying and more addictive than vaping. The vaper really has quit something.

Unless the vaper buys WTA and adds it to the vape. Before vaping, I don't think there was any way I would ever have gotten free of cigarettes, because there was no other way to get WTA, except smoking (or sticking tobacco in your mouth, which I WON'T do). It's never been about the nicotine to me, after spending the last 20+ yrs of smoking, smoking ultra-lights, because they just don't have much nicotine -- but they've still got the full alkaloid cocktail.

Andria

 

[Brandon David]

Initially, I started out with quitting in mind but after getting into the hobbiest aspect of building and DIY juice, it became so cheap that I don't think about it anymore. The only things ive bought in the last 6 months was an rx200 when my istick 50w died, a couple more 18650s and a sapor rda when i decided to try top airflow so... $85-90? (Edit: that's a lie- I bought an anarchist cap try try out of the classifieds for $30 3 or 4 months ago. Even though i dont buy often, i still check the classies a couple of times per week). Other than that, ive been content with my tugboat, derringer and mechs for quite a long time. Point of fact, the only expenses I forsee in the next 6 months is $100 or so on DIY flavors ive either run out of or am running low on which I'm going to buy in bulk this go around and another 2 gallons for $50ish order of VG. I will be buying a mymod squonker from paulw as I committed to that when he first started developing them a couple of years ago and I think it will be cool to own a well made piece that I've followed the development of for so long. Besides that, I've still got enough nic for 1.5-2 years in the freezer so not really concerned there.

I will eventually go to 0 nic as I've been on 2-2.5 for months but likely won't stop as I enjoy it and haven't even been tempted to have a cig in over a year. I lit one for my gf in the courtyard of the tavern a few months back when she was having issues in the wind and it was awful.

The only aspect I don't care for is not being able to find an e pipe that I like for under $300. I enjoy cool mornings on the weekend outside of the coffee shop puffing a pipe or sitting by the wood stove on a cold evening doing the same. No biggie, though. If I can't find one, I'll probably pick up a new pipe and a bag of organic local pipe tobacco.

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[spartanstew]

My goal all along was to eventually quit vaping too, and so far I'm right on schedule. I started with 18gm, went down to 12 after about 9 months, then down to 6 after 6-9 months, then 3 mg and I just went to 0 nic a couple of weeks ago. Originally, I planned on stopping vaping at about the 3 year mark and this July I'll probably stop.

Why? As someone else mentioned, I just don't want to be dependent on something. Also, it costs money which I could spend on other things and sometimes it's a hassle : making sure things are charged, having juice, changing coils, carrying around a bag of stuff, etc.

It's not burdensome, but it can be a hassle.

Yes, I enjoy it, but I'd enjoy fewer hassles and having more disposable income more.

I might keep a pipe handy to vape on weekends and such, but don't want to be vaping every day, all the time.

 

[cocacola31173]

When I started vaping I had no intention to quit smoking. The plan was to vape at home and in my car but still smoke at work. But after a couple of weeks I found myself vaping at work too because I liked it better!

I finally just quit buying anymore cigs and haven't had one in 3 years.

 

[Coolguforeal]

I don't think it is expected to quit vaping becuAse "that is an addiction too." I think the main reason to quit vaping is because the long term health effects are not clear. Obviously they are healthiER than cigarettes, which is seen clearly By lung improvement after switching, and even in some lab studies.

I applaud anyone who has made the switch from smoking to vaping, and I am not here to come off as judgemental or condescending (I smoked and vaped, and am currently struggling to quit vaping for good). But to assume that vaping is healthy is silly. I always see people defending nicotine and comparing it to caffeine, however it isn't the nicotine that raises most of the health concerns. It's everything else, including PG and VG themselves. Common sense aside (that inhaling large quantities of any aerosol probably isn't great for your lungs...) there is plenty of preliminary data out that suggest long term health implications of vaping (chronic inflammation, constricted airways, immune-supression, ect.).

So vape on, no one is stopping you. And congratulations on kicking a much more devastating habbit (of course people say things like "I will smoke until it kills me",but I have never met a smoking victim hacking their lungs out or going through chemo who didn't regret smoking). But you shouldn't go around spreading misinformation that vaping is "safe". Just because so far there is no definitive evidence that it is unhealthy doesn't make it healthy. (lots of things were assumed "safe" before realizing how bad they really are, cigarettes included.)

 

[Rizzyking]

I'll quit vaping when I quit breathing I enjoy it and if it does harm it only does it to me not those around me and I'm far from convinced it's harming me. I enjoyed smoking as well but I see vaping as the best of both worlds I get the enjoyment I got from smoking and none of the physical downsides and it keeps my brain working making my juice and building my coils even though I prefer simple single wire coils. Give it enough time and things you were told were bad turn out to not have been as bad as previously thought and things you were told were good become bad in someway. Find something you enjoy and just enjoy it sooner or later for whatever reason we're all going to die gotta have some fun .

 

[Coolguforeal]

I'll quit vaping when I quit breathing I enjoy it and if it does harm it only does it to me not those around me and I'm far from convinced it's harming me. I enjoyed smoking as well but I see vaping as the best of both worlds I get the enjoyment I got from smoking and none of the physical downsides and it keeps my brain working making my juice and building my coils even though I prefer simple single wire coils. Give it enough time and things you were told were bad turn out to not have been as bad as previously thought and things you were told were good become bad in someway. Find something you enjoy and just enjoy it sooner or later for whatever reason we're all going to die gotta have some fun .

No one told you to quit. And you should do wwhat makes you happy. But just because something doesn't "feel" like its harming you doesn't meant it is not harming you.

 

[AndriaD]

I don't think it is expected to quit vaping becuAse "that is an addiction too." I think the main reason to quit vaping is because the long term health effects are not clear. Obviously they are healthiER than cigarettes, which is seen clearly By lung improvement after switching, and even in some lab studies.

I applaud anyone who has made the switch from smoking to vaping, and I am not here to come off as judgemental or condescending (I smoked and vaped, and am currently struggling to quit vaping for good). But to assume that vaping is healthy is silly. I always see people defending nicotine and comparing it to caffeine, however it isn't the nicotine that raises most of the health concerns. It's everything else, including PG and VG themselves. Common sense aside (that inhaling large quantities of any aerosol probably isn't great for your lungs...) there is plenty of preliminary data out that suggest long term health implications of vaping (chronic inflammation, constricted airways, immune-supression, ect.).

So vape on, no one is stopping you. And congratulations on kicking a much more devastating habbit (of course people say things like "I will smoke until it kills me",but I have never met a smoking victim hacking their lungs out or going through chemo who didn't regret smoking). But you shouldn't go around spreading misinformation that vaping is "safe". Just because so far there is no definitive evidence that it is unhealthy doesn't make it healthy. (lots of things were assumed "safe" before realizing how bad they really are, cigarettes included.)

I agree with you that the Pg and VG and flavors are undoubtedly somewhat more of a risk than the nicotine, and sure, it's surely true that NOT vaping is healthier than vaping. But let's get real here: there was no way in hell I was ever going to stop smoking, as long as I could draw breath -- in 1985 I was hospitalized because of an asthma attack so bad that even 2 shots of epi couldn't make it stop -- and 3 days later, when I could breathe a little better, I sneaked down to the smoking area and bummed a smoke -- 2 drags and I was coughing my brains out, but I persevered! I had at least 5 hits before the nurses tracked me down and made me go back to my room. so yeah, I'm gonna keep vaping -- because if I stop, I'll be back to setting fire to tobacco and inhaling that, and inhaling Pg, nic, and flavors is so many orders of magnitude better and safer, I can't even find words for it. I smoked for a full 3/4ths of my entire life, tried 4 times to quit, and I know I am speaking the literal truth -- the only thing that has ever enabled me to do without cigarettes since i was 14 yrs old is vaping, and stopping vaping will mean returning to smoking.

Andria

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

I enjoyed smoking when I did it but didn't enjoy the coughing and the smell that came with it.

Nobody in my family smokes I'm the only one, I had a lot of people ask me why I still use "That thing" I tell them this..

You know I smoked for 22 years, I knew it was bad for me and I tried quitting for 15 years, you probably remember some of my attempts, despite all the things I tried I couldn't quit because I actually like smoking, how the nicotine makes me feel, it helps a lot with my anxiety, you know I may still use this, I may still be addicted to nicotine but really at my levels 1.5/3mg it's not really harmful, I quit the cancer, I quit the heart disease and I quit the emphysema but I continue what I enjoy...

Most people get it right away, If anyone ever becomes interested or cites any studies saying they are bad I keep a USB drive on my keychain, I have a copy of firefox portable on it with bookmarks for all the studies etc. I just show them and they get angry that the TV lied to them >.>

 

[srpurdy]

All I know this stuff was put on the planet for a reason. It is a sign from. Wait no.. I don't beleive in anything... Anyway it's there. Why not smoke it. Too much milk is not good for you also.

Nobody in my family smokes I'm the only one, I had a lot of people ask me why I still use "That thing" I tell them this..

You know I smoked for 22 years, I knew it was bad for me and I tried quitting for 15 years, you probably remember some of my attempts, despite all the things I tried I couldn't quit because I actually like smoking, how the nicotine makes me feel, it helps a lot with my anxiety, you know I may still use this, I may still be addicted to nicotine but really at my levels 1.5/3mg it's not really harmful, I quit the cancer, I quit the heart disease and I quit the emphysema but I continue what I enjoy...

Most people get it right away, If anyone ever becomes interested or cites any studies saying they are bad I keep a USB drive on my keychain, I have a copy of firefox portable on it with bookmarks for all the studies etc. I just show them and they get angry that the TV lied to them >.>

and you're 1 hour away from 1 full year!

TV lies all the time about all kinds of things. Why I don't watch the news lol. Congrats on kicking that smoking. I can relate. I tried quitting for more than a decade, finally vaping has allowed me too.