DR Farsalinos weighs in on the importance of flavors!

[2coils]

I haven't seen this anywhere yet. I thought it was interesting! As always, Thank you Dr F for the good work you do!

From the Study:
On average they were using three different types of liquid flavours on a regular basis, with former smokers switching between flavours more frequently compared to current smokers; 69.2% of the former subgroup reported doing so on a daily basis or within the day. Fruit flavours were more popular at the time of participation, while tobacco flavours were more popular at initiation of EC use. On a scale from 1 (not at all important) to 5 (extremely important) participants answered that variability of flavours was “very important” (score = 4) in their effort to reduce or quit smoking. The majority reported that restricting variability will make ECs less enjoyable and more boring, while 48.5% mentioned that it would increase craving for cigarettes and 39.7% said that it would have been less likely for them to reduce or quit smoking.

See more here: IJERPH | Free Full-Text | Impact of Flavour Variability on Electronic Cigarette Use Experience: An Internet Survey

 

[AegisPrime]

6. Conclusions

The results of this survey indicate that EC liquid flavourings play a major role in the overall experience of dedicated users and support the hypothesis that they are important contributors in reducing or eliminating smoking consumption. This should be considered by the health authorities; based on the current minimal adoption of ECs by youngsters, it is reasonable to support that any proposed regulation should ensure that flavourings are available to EC consumers while at the same time restrictions to the use by youngsters (especially non-smokers) should be imposed in order to avoid future penetration of EC use to this population.

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[AgentAnia]

Thanks for posting this, 2coils, and thank you again, Dr. F, for your good work!!!

Rhetorical question for today: Why is it that legislators/regulators think that limiting availability of ecigs is needed to solve the youth-use problem, when simply enforcing existing sales limitations would do the trick? Oh, and second question: Why do the L/Rs think the alleged risk to youth from flavors outweighs the proven benefits to adult vapers?

 

[Orb Skewer]

Thanks for posting this, 2coils, and thank you again, Dr. F, for your good work!!!

Rhetorical question for today: Why is it that legislators/regulators think that limiting availability of ecigs is needed to solve the youth-use problem, when simply enforcing existing sales limitations would do the trick? Oh, and second question: Why do the L/Rs think the alleged risk to youth from flavors outweighs the proven benefits to adult vapers?

Because a liar will stick to the first thing that came out of their mouths-regardless of how random it is ?

 

[Talyon]

Thanks for posting this, 2coils, and thank you again, Dr. F, for your good work!!!

Rhetorical question for today: Why is it that legislators/regulators think that limiting availability of ecigs is needed to solve the youth-use problem, when simply enforcing existing sales limitations would do the trick? Oh, and second question: Why do the L/Rs think the alleged risk to youth from flavors outweighs the proven benefits to adult vapers?

It's because they have nothing else to hang their hats on.

Oh and because they are dirty rotten scare mongering scum buckets, in which we pay their salary to bend us over and tell us how to live.

 

[r77r7r]

I haven't seen this anywhere yet. I thought it was interesting! As always, Thank you Dr F for the good work you do!

From the Study:
On average they were using three different types of liquid flavours on a regular basis, with former smokers switching between flavours more frequently compared to current smokers; 69.2% of the former subgroup reported doing so on a daily basis or within the day. Fruit flavours were more popular at the time of participation, while tobacco flavours were more popular at initiation of EC use. On a scale from 1 (not at all important) to 5 (extremely important) participants answered that variability of flavours was “very important” (score = 4) in their effort to reduce or quit smoking. The majority reported that restricting variability will make ECs less enjoyable and more boring, while 48.5% mentioned that it would increase craving for cigarettes and 39.7% said that it would have been less likely for them to reduce or quit smoking.

See more here: IJERPH | Free Full-Text | Impact of Flavour Variability on Electronic Cigarette Use Experience: An Internet Survey

Good article.

This part here makes me wonder if it's about having flavors at all or finding a flavor that's vapeable enough to make the experience pleasurable enough to continue??

I wonder how many of us would go back to smoking if they took away most flavors, and how many people would not even try to vape?

I guess as an unflavored user, I just can't wrap my mind around someone have "increased cravings". For me, it's always been about getting the nic in my system, the warm vapor, and the hand-to-mouth motions.

 

[BuGlen]

Good article.

This part here makes me wonder if it's about having flavors at all or finding a flavor that's vapeable enough to make the experience pleasurable enough to continue??

I wonder how many of us would go back to smoking if they took away most flavors, and how many people would not even try to vape?

I think the biggest impact would be the ability to attract current smokers to switch over to vaping. For current vapers, it's difficult to tell how many would return to smoking (I wouldn't), and how many would just vape flavorless or add their own flavor. There is probably a very small percentage of vapers who would just stop everything, but they were probably already on that track anyway.

 

[2coils]

It's because they have nothing else to hang their hats on.

Oh and because they are dirty rotten scare mongering scum buckets, in which we pay their salary to bend us over and tell us how to live.

Bravo my friend!!! Bravo!!

 

[2coils]

For me??? I just don't know? I have hundreds of flavors in my cabinet. I use the majority of them, as I get bored quickly. Flavor restrictions would hurt new vapers more IMO. I remember going through a ton of different flavors and vendors, before I figured out what I REALLY liked and wanted. Now, for most of us that are experienced, I believe we would "survive" with variety restrictions. We are all capable and knowledgeable enough to DIY or add our own flavors. Its just another way for regulators to stun the growth of the industry. I have a big problem with that . I will not be happy until we can convert as many smokers as possible.

 

[r77r7r]

I think the biggest impact would be the ability to attract current smokers to switch over to vaping. For current vapers, it's difficult to tell how many would return to smoking (I wouldn't), and how many would just vape flavorless or add their own flavor. There is probably a very small percentage of vapers who would just stop everything, but they were probably already on that track anyway.

I like that flavors might bring someone to vaping early in their smoking career, yet I wonder how many of those people also give up at the first leaky clearo.

I remember early on in my vaping being somewhat shocked when someone posted that they were afraid they would go back to smoking because their ADV delivery was delayed.

 

[Berylanna]

Good article.

This part here makes me wonder if it's about having flavors at all or finding a flavor that's vapeable enough to make the experience pleasurable enough to continue??

I wonder how many of us would go back to smoking if they took away most flavors, and how many people would not even try to vape?

I guess as an unflavored user, I just can't wrap my mind around someone have "increased cravings". For me, it's always been about getting the nic in my system, the warm vapor, and the hand-to-mouth motions.

I suspect half of us would be OK if they took away all but our favorite single flavor. The trouble is, they'd have to keep almost all the flavors currently on the market to meet that goal!

I'm told by quite a few people the reason I have not managed to kick the last 3-4 combustibles a day is that I don't switch flavors enough. (I don't switch at all, even though I carry other flavors with me. Gotta try ramping that up...)

 

[2coils]

The other thing I still can not comprehend......If we were limited to "tobacco" flavors only, who is to say what is acceptable?? Each liquid maker has their own take on tobacco flavors. Some are sweet, some are dry, some are Virginia, or burly. There are probably hundreds if not thousands of variations of a tobacco flavored e-liquid. Is the FDA really going to dictate what "tobacco" is supposed to taste like?? If and when this happens, I will be the first one sitting on the front porch of the FDA waiting to fight it!

 

[2coils]

I suspect half of us would be OK if they took away all but our favorite single flavor. The trouble is, they'd have to keep almost all the flavors currently on the market to meet that goal!

I'm told by quite a few people the reason I have not managed to kick the last 3-4 combustibles a day is that I don't switch flavors enough. (I don't switch at all, even though I carry other flavors with me. Gotta try ramping that up...)

Yea, I get it. Feburary will be two years without a smoke for me. I STILL get cravings when I catch a whiff of someones lit cigarette. Its just not easy (for everyone) period!! As much as I say, I'd NEVER go back, In my heart, I know that is just not a true statement. I always ENJOYED smoking. If things were significantly different within this industry, I cant say for sure what I would do. I think I know, but thats as far as I can go.

 

[AgentAnia]

The other thing I still can not comprehend......If we were limited to "tobacco" flavors only, who is to say what is acceptable?? Each liquid maker has their own take on tobacco flavors. Some are sweet, some are dry, some are Virginia, or burly. There are probably hundreds if not thousands of variations of a tobacco flavored e-liquid. Is the FDA really going to dictate what "tobacco" is supposed to taste like?? If and when this happens, I will be the first one sitting on the front porch of the FDA waiting to fight it!

This discussion has brought out the fundamental flaw in regulating flavors: there are so many flavors already in play, catering to a large population of vapers. I suspect that your question, 2coils, is precisely why we worry about how FDA is going to go about it.

Those in charge of regulating tobacco and recreational nicotine products are not vapers. And if they are ex-smokers, they are familiar only with the relatively few flavors of tobacco cigarettes, a few menthols and a few tobaccos. This is what worries me, that they think they know enough to write "reasonable" regulations when in fact they most likely don't.

(Or, perhaps they do realize what they're faced with and it's keeping them up at night...)

 

[Talyon]

My biggest fear is that many smokers out there might never get a true shot a quitting if they can't have what we exp Vapers now have.

Sure some, and that's a good thing well suffice just fine with prefilled carto's from BT. But how many we'll die a horrible death that possibly just possibly could have easily been prevented.

I better stop now, anger filling me..........

 

[Orb Skewer]

Flavours were invented around 70 million years ago ?, grandfather rights are in the bag.

 

[Jman8]

I will be the first one sitting on the front porch of the FDA waiting to fight it!

I've been camped out on the FDA porch since 2011, just waiting to fight it. But I'll save a spot for you so you can be second in line.

 

[Uma]

This is why I share about water based Flavors whenever I can in articles & IRL. I want the public to be able share the word when called upon. "Oh, I read somewhere dear, that water based flavorings are used, why don't you pick up a few Flavors...."

Great survey, thanks for posting! I needed to hear another positive today.

 

[Trenton J. Elkin]

They will never stop DIY therefore they cannot stop flavored juice from being made and potentially sold.


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