Dr. Siegel's New Website!

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LaceyUnderall

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Lacey, thanks for that. Do you know Dr. Siegel's reputation, haven't done any looking yet, but do have this bookmarked. Gotta check creds, I'm getting paranoid about everything these days. Wonder why, I'm a trusting person, was anyway.

I do know this tad of info: He has been shunned, I guess is a good word for it, from the anti-smoking movement as far as the large Health Organizations are concerned.

Word is that at one time, he was a part of them and when the group decided to take the direction of "quit or die", he just couldn't do it. He felt that tobacco Harm Reduction was the way to go considering people are going to do what they want to do so offering less harmful choices is the best way to handle the situation.

This is mere gossip. IMHO, good gossip, that makes me think even more highly of him :)
 

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I have to disagree with some of this. 99 percent of all smokers know the risk of smoking and 2nd hand smoke. And I believe if you smoke around your children then you are placing risk of a lot more than just breathing problems....studies have shown that 2nd hand smoke can also lower the childs IQ...lower attention span....also can cause as many problems as regular smokers. I believe smoking around a child is child abuse. The child cant just walk away and a child doesn't know the difference unless you taught them. honestly it wrong to smoke around children or indoors period. 2nd hand smoke can be a killer in the long run just as much as regular smoking.
 
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Excuse me, but I have smoked around my children all of their lives except the first year. My daughter is only 5 so hasn't had much standardized testing, but I was told she was the smartest kid in her kindergarten class. My son is almost 18 and has tested in the 98th - 99th percentile in all of his standardized testing including the PSAT's. Maybe if I hadn't smoked around him he would have inched up into the 100th percentile. Considering that I am in pain just walking to the bathroom or kitchen when I have to and changes of temperature have a major affect on my health, going outside is just not an option. But thank you for your opinion that I have been abusing my children for their whole lives.
 

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I have to disagree with some of this. 99 percent of all smokers know the risk of smoking and 2nd hand smoke. And I believe if you smoke around your children then you are placing risk of a lot more than just breathing problems....studies have shown that 2nd hand smoke can also lower the childs IQ...lower attention span....also can cause as many problems as regular smokers. I believe smoking around a child is child abuse. The child cant just walk away and a child doesn't know the difference unless you taught them. honestly it wrong to smoke around children or indoors period. 2nd hand smoke can be a killer in the long run just as much as regular smoking.

We have to agree to disagree. I am a school psychologist and I do assessment of IQ and learning disorders such as ADD. Nothing can be farther from the truth to these claims of lowered cognitive skills. I am a smoker who raised 3 intellectually gifted sons prior to the 2nd hand smoke scare tactics...according to you I abused my children. By the way they didn't have allergies, asthma, increased ear infections and so on that are popularized in the media. Read the Surgeon Generals findings on environmental smoke and you will find that the ADD/ADHD and cognitive dysfunction allegations to be NOT PROVED. Further, there is no causal association between developing asthma and 2nd hand smoke.

Jeez...I wonder how I ever survived the era when everyone smoked? Much less made it thru grad school. How did humans ever progress when they lived via smoke from fires in caves and fireplaces. Jeez...the indians must be nuts because they use tobacco in smoke filled teepees. I hear the North American natives stll heat via fire.

If you actually read the Doctor's blog you will see this nonsense has been dispelled as not scientific nor even in the realm of possibility given the process of homeostasis and the miracle of human biopsychsocial adaptibility. But perhaps you are more educated about the topic than myself, the Doctor, and the Surgeon General combined...If so I humbly apologize for attempting to dispel myths. ;)
 

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I have to disagree with some of this. 99 percent of all smokers know the risk of smoking and 2nd hand smoke. And I believe if you smoke around your children then you are placing risk of a lot more than just breathing problems....studies have shown that 2nd hand smoke can also lower the childs IQ...lower attention span....also can cause as many problems as regular smokers. I believe smoking around a child is child abuse. The child cant just walk away and a child doesn't know the difference unless you taught them. honestly it wrong to smoke around children or indoors period. 2nd hand smoke can be a killer in the long run just as much as regular smoking.

Well all the constant brainwashing has certainly worked in this case.
 

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OKay then explain this:
Secondhand smoke contains more than 4,000 substances. More than 40 of these substances are known to cause cancer in people or animals.

Infants and young children whose parents smoke have more lower respiratory tract infections, including pneumonia and bronchitis. Secondhand smoke causes between 150,000 and 300,000 such infections every year in children under age 18 months, and between 7,500 and 15,000 are so severe they require hospitalization. Children who breathe secondhand smoke also have more ear infections, and infants exposed to secondhand smoke run a higher risk of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome. <----- ( WOW no real worries eh)

The EPA estimates secondhand smoke worsens asthma in between 200,000 and 1 million children with the disease. What’s more, children who are exposed to secondhand smoke are more likely to develop a new case of asthma as well.

Secondhand smoke is estimated to cause between 38,000 and 65,000 deaths among nonsmokers every year, making it the third leading cause of preventable death in this country

Second-hand smoke linked to cognitive impairment (Previous findings suggested that second-hand smoke exposure could impair cognitive development in children and adolescents.)

Children of smokers have more than 5 times higher levels of a nicotine toxin Nearly 40% of under-fives are believed to be exposed to tobacco smoke at home, and smoke may be responsible for up to 6,000 deaths per year in young children.

Children's IQ Can Be Affected By Mother's Exposure To Urban Air Pollutants, Study Suggests the study found that children exposed to high levels of PAHs in New York City had full scale and verbal IQ scores that were 4.31 and 4.67 points lower, respectively than those of less exposed children. High PAH levels were defined as above the median of 2.26 nanograms per cubic meter (ng/m3).


If these above links dont make you think twice before lighting up around children and adults then your nuts. Even if they dont have problems now your still looking at a chance of problems later...my fiance has asthma (bad) b/c her grandmother smoked around her as a child.....her medications sometimes could reach up 600 plus dollars every month (thank GOd for insurance and free samples). If she didn't get these medications she could die from asthma. ( its called not being able to breath and then sufficate to death) So not taking asthma seriously is wrong. Putting a child at risk of health problems (present, future) is child abuse.....if you think its not then that is like saying IM going to dangle this child over a rail that is 200ft in the air. The child may have a chance to fall but thats okay if the child falls I didn't mean to. Im sure you guys are great parents but how would you feel if your child developed cancer or some kind of problems that will cost them thousands later in life all because of 2nd hand smoke....Jeesh folks a child's body is growing, you dont know what your child is sensitive to. You can damage brain cells, the lungs, or who knows what. Then by time there older it will be to late to reverse its damage.
 
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So, since Gramma's smoke caused the asthma, now that she's in your non-smoking house she doesn'thave it anymore, right?

Correlation != causation, sorry.
nope once the damage is done its done. thats asthma for ya. very rare to change that fact. again when smoke damages the body its at a cellular level. it cause many issues....and most of her flare ups now happen when the smoke from the neighbors apartment gets into our apartment.
 

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Lacey, thanks for that. Do you know Dr. Siegel's reputation, haven't done any looking yet, but do have this bookmarked. Gotta check creds, I'm getting paranoid about everything these days. Wonder why, I'm a trusting person, was anyway.
Kate, Dr. Siegel was one of the first big pushers for tobacco control. As the years went by and truths were distorted for the sake of the anti agenda he rebelled, and began to criticize the lies publicly. While he remains strongly anti, he wants regulations to be handled fairly, and based on facts.

He's now, unfortunately, paying for his honesty and fairness, as his voice is no longer carries the weight it did in anti-smoking circles. Truths that don't fit the agenda aren't want the antis want seen.
 

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Interesting that my son's one ear infection occurred during his first year, when I was still going outside to smoke. And my daughter was rarely sick until she started school and was exposed to many illness from other kids whose parents send them to school no matter how sick they are. In her fist 5 years she has only had to see a doctor for annual checkups and shots. Same for my son and he is almost 18.

When my husband was diagnosed with asthma as a child (and he was around no one that smoked) his doctors told my mother in law to get rid of all her pets, the carpet, the drapes, and all upholstered furniture and buy everything new. She did none of those things and he survived, got over his allergy to cats and is healthy enough to work in a factory doing heavy work every day. Was it child abuse that she refused to do all of the things the doctor recommended?

By the way, according to your reasoning living in a city with children is also child abuse. Do I think it is better for my family now that I'm not smoking in the house? Of course. Do I think it was child abuse that I did before? No! And it is incredibly insulting to those who have suffered real abuse to equate abuse with second hand smoke. I have friends who had horribly abusive parents and they would be rightfully offended to hear this theory. "Gee (insert name here), sorry your father raped and beat you, I know exactly how you feel because my mom smoked while I was in the house."
 

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nope once the damage is done its done. thats asthma for ya. very rare to change that fact.

Bullcrap. I know at least a half-dozen people that had childhood asthma, from both smoking and non-smoking households. All are now symptom-free.

You want to state opinion, that's fine - but quit trying to pass them off as gospel truth.
 
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