Dripping and Sub-ohming is ridiculous!

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RubyRoo

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Ridiculously AMAZING!!!

Just built my first dual coil today on my new Igo-W. Used a small coil (I wouldn't call it "micro" as it is not compressed because I am all out of 28 gauge and had to use 32) and some cotton and went to flavor town. Turned out to 0.8 Ohms (using a 30 Amp limit battery, being EXTRA safe) and producing some really excellent flavor and vapor. And I realize that it is not the most beautiful build, but it is really delicious and vaporous. I get it now . . . I really do. I love the idea of not committing to a whole tank, I love the smoothest vape EVER with no gurgles in sight. I wasn't interested in dripping at first, because it seemed too fiddly, but now I realize how very un-fiddly it really is. Just thought I'd share in my excitement with you all!

 

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Good for you RubyRoo. This is fun isn't i! I've been using mech mods and RBA/RDA's for a while now and love them. I got a Trident clone a couple of weeks ago which was my first dual coil machine. My first setup was at 0.6 ohms with slightly modified micro coils and cotton. I re-did it a couple of days ago at 0.45 ohms with proper micro coils.

Right now I think this is a bit too aggressive for me, but I'm still playing with it. I'm taking very short hits specially with a fully charged battery. I find with the dual coils I get so much flavor I'll probably end up modifying some juice recipes to suit this. And yes, it is very nice to be able to change flavors before the tank is done. Also nice to be able to mix juices on the fly :thumb:
 

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Thanks everyone for your replies and sharing with me my journey into dripping and sub-ohming. I generally prefer a mellower vape, but I've been chasing flavor lately and have found that rebuildable systems are simply the best solution. I freaking love dripping. And rebuilding is so much fun! Can't wait to get my 28 gauge back in stock and rip out a few more coils! Thanks guys!
 

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Thanks everyone for your replies and sharing with me my journey into dripping and sub-ohming. I generally prefer a mellower vape, but I've been chasing flavor lately and have found that rebuildable systems are simply the best solution. I freaking love dripping. And rebuilding is so much fun! Can't wait to get my 28 gauge back in stock and rip out a few more coils! Thanks guys!

No need to wait just twist your 32 and go!
 

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Whoa! That looks crazy! I just ordered some new 32 and 28 from Temco, so it'll be here soon. That build looks so nutty!
Twisting smaller gauge wire is a way to 1. Decrease the wires resistance - by 1/2 if done correctly - and 2. Compensate for the fact that you have run out of thicker wire. :laugh:

When twisting wire, there is also an arguable increase in wire "surface area" for a given resistance, with increased surface area, all else being equal... a good thing. An extreme example of this, and you can do a search to see what I'm talking about, is "Alexander Mundy's Magic Twisted Ribbon".
 

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Can someone explain to me why sub ohm and using a mech mod is better? I have a few RBA's but I use them on VV devices, dipping into sub ohm and mech mods frightens me a little with the battery worries. I get a decent vape but I'm sure it could be better but I just haven't ever really tried it.

Not better if you've a decent VV/VW device...just another way of getting 'more watts' out of a PV.

These days there are high drain batteries capable of supporting up to 30 amp currents, where most of the VV/VW stuff out there is intended to work at under 4 amps (maybe as high as 7 for some of them, counting booster circuit draw). They achieve this by boosting the 'voltage'...either in pulses, or stored up in some other kind of circuit. With higher voltage, you don't need as many 'amps' to achieve the same 'watts'.

Jucing a 20+ watt multiple coil super atty can be kind of fun I guess...but it's not very practical for a regular all day vape (at least not for me). Such a setup is a serious juice hog and battery drain.

Much of what goes into cloud chasing...people were doing 3 years ago with tiny single coil atties and stacked batteries at 5+ volts. It was mostly about getting the air flow and wicking ratios balanced out.

So, if you want to blow massive plumes of vape...sure, a sub-ohm or 5+Volt mech setup is good to have. If you want 'flavor' and enough vapor to fill your lungs and kick the back of your throat...a good 3.7v based VV/VW mod from 4w - 12w on a single coil is plenty for most of us. Even on a dual coil setup at 5 watts per coil...you can get very good results if your air and wicks are right.

If you want to venture into cloud chasing builds...unless you've got plenty of extra money to spend on liquids, you might want to look into DIY (do it yourself) for liquids.

If you're just in love with dual coil cartos, and simply want to get a little more 'heat' out of them than your current PV can muster up...an HV setup 'might' be a better option than sub-ohming 3.7v (better battery life for sure, and much safer current draws (amps), if you don't want to stack batteries you could go for an 18650 5v NiMH cell [like sub-ohiming, stacking is not recommended unless you do the battery/PV research and are VERY CAREFUL] ).

Now, if you HAVE a mech, and like a pretty hot coil in an oversized RBA (Like the REOMizer), then slightly under 1 Ohm is considered a really sweet spot for a single coil build with micro coils. This lets the battery give a good hot vape throughout the entire charge cycle of the battery. With a regulated PV, you could maintain a good hot coil like this without going sub-ohm.

Larger RBA platforms might need a few more watts, because they are 'larger' and channel air differently than a tiny atty platform. They are built on a principle that 'more coil surface is better'. This is something else to consider...a smaller barrel and air flow setup won't need as much power to tweak out for great flavor and good vapor. The trade off will be a 'tighter/longer/slower draw' and a smaller deck to get your fingers into when building.
 
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Ridiculously AMAZING!!!

Just built my first dual coil today on my new Igo-W. Used a small coil (I wouldn't call it "micro" as it is not compressed because I am all out of 28 gauge and had to use 32) and some cotton and went to flavor town. Turned out to 0.8 Ohms (using a 30 Amp limit battery, being EXTRA safe) and producing some really excellent flavor and vapor. And I realize that it is not the most beautiful build, but it is really delicious and vaporous. I get it now . . . I really do. I love the idea of not committing to a whole tank, I love the smoothest vape EVER with no gurgles in sight. I wasn't interested in dripping at first, because it seemed too fiddly, but now I realize how very un-fiddly it really is. Just thought I'd share in my excitement with you all!




I too am a HUGE fan of sub ohm.

Love getting clouds so thick it feels like a marshmallow in the back of your throat.

Welcome to sub ohm. The possibilities are only limited by your imagination

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I am being safe, don't you worry! I know the amp limits of all of my batteries and use my Ohms law calculator app regularly to see the amps that I will be drawing for every build. I always calculate on a fresh charge as well (4.2 volts) just in case. Thanks everyone for your support and celebratory posts!

My safety opinion is to drill vent holes till you can freely blow though mod regardless of batt size or lock clocking.
It is entirely possible for venting batt to swell/shed and restrict inadequate factory vent holes. I've drilled all my mods except my new Nemmy; Nemmy does need drilling IMO.
 

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Once I discovered rba's and builds that would support 15 watts, it was all over for me, that's when I jumped into mechanicals. The difference between vaping at 7 watts and 15 watts is incredible. So it wasn't that hard for to try .5 ohm builds.

To me an rba is like a block of ice, each one has a perfect build inside, and it's up to the vaper to discover what it is. Once you find it's optimum build, it doesn't matter what ohms it is. Some vape best at sub, some don't.
 
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