There is a time and place to listen to your doctor and family, this isn't one of them, lol. Congratulations on quitting and cut down slowly. Do what works for you.
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There is a time and place to listen to your doctor and family, this isn't one of them, lol. Congratulations on quitting and cut down slowly. Do what works for you.
As a newbie I actually started at 16mg but the juice recommended was just plain nasty - even so, I VAPED IT! 
JUST like you khaugust I chain vape - figured as long as I wasn't feeling ill I was ok
as ok as I ever am 
Ironically that particular flavor was supposed to be like my old stick friends (ex-friends!) I'm lucky to have a test bar at a local B & M.
Even though I was 1 to 1.5 PAD July 26th 13 I vaped and never looked back - here's the kicker. It wasn't the nic levels that got me - I was lucky enough to find some just DELECTABLE coffee/mocha's/machiatto flavors that I'm now down to zero already! Do I want to stop vaping = NO Should I = NO In the back of my mind there's a lil monster going TOO soon. YES I was lucky enough to be able to drop down without destroying anything
I actually still have some of the 16mg that when I need a kick, maybe a stress day I add it to my tank that normally has a zero in it so I guess it's working!
I'm new to ECF and learning a LOT in here = SHOUT OUT Thanks to everyone, cause there's always something that makes me say hmmm !
Every one I've asked has said JUST KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING - you 're NOT smokin!
JUST like you khaugust I chain vape - figured as long as I wasn't feeling ill I was ok
as ok as I ever am Ironically that particular flavor was supposed to be like my old stick friends (ex-friends!) I'm lucky to have a test bar at a local B & M.
Even though I was 1 to 1.5 PAD July 26th 13 I vaped and never looked back - here's the kicker. It wasn't the nic levels that got me - I was lucky enough to find some just DELECTABLE coffee/mocha's/machiatto flavors that I'm now down to zero already! Do I want to stop vaping = NO Should I = NO In the back of my mind there's a lil monster going TOO soon. YES I was lucky enough to be able to drop down without destroying anything
I actually still have some of the 16mg that when I need a kick, maybe a stress day I add it to my tank that normally has a zero in it so I guess it's working!I'm new to ECF and learning a LOT in here = SHOUT OUT Thanks to everyone, cause there's always something that makes me say hmmm !
Every one I've asked has said JUST KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING - you 're NOT smokin!
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I use 24 and have only fluctuated down to 14-16 for a month or less
when I first started then back to my usual 24 where I've been for the last 3 years.
I have never understood why people feel like they "MUST GO DOWN" on their nicotine consumption.
Unless you believe all the bs about it being linked to "heart disease" and causing cancer etc. like the extremists do perhaps....
Why are vapers in such a rush to go down to zero?
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That's the whole core/ central theme about vaping. It's all very personal and if someone wishes to decrease their nic intake that's okay. If someone's wants to quit vaping completely that's also ok. And if someone wishes to vape @ 12, 18, 24 or 36 mg that's also okay. Bottom line to me is as long as they don't smoke another analog it's all good
That's the whole core/ central theme about vaping. It's all very personal and if someone wishes to decrease their nic intake that's okay. If someone's wants to quit vaping completely that's also ok. And if someone wishes to vape @ 12, 18, 24 or 36 mg that's also okay. Bottom line to me is as long as they don't smoke another analog it's all good
Agreed!
I am though curious as to why so many feel that is a necessary part of vaping....
I want to find out why.
C.B.
Some people are sick of being addicted to nicotine so maybe for some of them, kicking the nicotine is a huge personal goal.
Agreed!
I am though curious as to why so many feel that is a necessary part of vaping....
I want to find out why.
C.B.
I gave a seminar to 43 Healthcare professionals over a yr ago- Doctors, surgeons, dentists, naturopaths, etc and the common thought that was agreed upon was the stigma and negativism attached to nicotine because of tobacco. I have no issues with nicotine at all. 37 of 43 attendees were extremely supportive of vaping as a means of smoking cessation and have had great success with many patients who had failed using other cessation progs.
I still meet with many of these professionals and after seeing the success of vaping they are absolutely "ticked off" by the various govts and agencies that are against vaping. Legal or not they will always support vaping until such time it's proven to be less healthy than smoking.
Question that's probably here somewhere...but I all day vape. Thought it would be smarter to drop from 18 to 6 mg if I'm going to never let the vape leave my lips....problem is I feel crappy. Almost like I've had too much? I chain-vaped on 18 and seemed ok. There were the odd time I would have to put it down...but not for long. Now I feel like I've had it down more than in my hand? Does this even make sense? Could it just be the juice?
You might be going a little too fast. Take it slow. I would advise to try and cut down on the vamping a little first and then slowly drop down on nic. Try mixing the juice to get a level that your comfortable with. I started at 24mg and am now down to 4mg. It's taken a while to get there. I did it in a step process. When I first started I too vaped all the time. I made an effort to try and not vamp so much. I would actually set a time on when I could vape again. Once I got comfortable with that then I mixed an 18 mg with a 24 mg and then just slowly dropped down. I am now at a point where I think I could stop if I wanted to. Just don't want to yet. Maybe one day, but it's sooo good, LOL
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Agreed!
I am though curious as to why so many feel that is a necessary part of vaping....
I want to find out why.
C.B.
The reason I have worked on lowering my nic is due to extreme high blood pressure. At one point I was in the ER two nights in a row with 208/129 blood pressure. I'm not positive whether chain vaping at night affected me other than at night when I was at home doing nothing but chilling by myself and chain vaping while watching t.v., my blood pressure would start soaring. I was in my kitchen popping extra blood pressure pills and cutting them in half, etc. So for me, that's why I have tried to lower my nic. Am I positive it is helping? No. But it sure can't hurt in my case. Also, it's alot cheaper to DIY my juice now that I'm down on my nic level and I enjoy it just as much as when I was vaping at a higher nic, so why not. That's at least my story. I don't sit around though telling everyone they MUST lower their nic. Everyone is different. And I discourage new vapers from trying to lower their nic too soon. I vaped 2 years before I decided to start lowering my nic.
Agreed!
I am though curious as to why so many feel that is a necessary part of vaping....
I want to find out why.
C.B.
#1 I don't like being a slave to man nor substance. I also recently quit caffeine.
#2 more and more employers are denying employment to people who test positive for cotinine, which is what nicotine metabolizes into in the body.
#3 it is just a matter of time, IMHO, until a positive test result will result in higher health insurance premiums, even through private insurance. My company already tests us yearly as a part of a health and wellness program. Right now it is voluntary and you get a discount for participating. That could easily change. Obamacare already stipulates a 50% increase for smokers.
I am simply preparing for what is coming down the pike.
Agreed!
I am though curious as to why so many feel that is a necessary part of vaping....
I want to find out why.
C.B.
Some of us want to be done with nicotine entirely. I am one. Vaping has made the transition possible. I'd tried everything under the sun just about to quit smoking. Vaping is the only thing that has worked. Stepping down is going to one day free me from nicotine.
Very true what ZNinja says above ^^ It's not right and I despise it, but it's coming. It's already happened to some people in here I've read about. I personally have also tried to cut back on my coffee. Too much coffee with chain vaping at higher nic sure doesn't help me. On weekdays I was drinking 4 cups of coffee a day. I've gotten it down to 2 1/2 lol. I tend to drink more coffee when I'm at work and on the comp all day. Weekends I only drink 2 cups. Well, sometimes a third one around dinner time. ahem. Anyhow, luckily my meds have been regulated and now my blood pressure is okay with the meds. But I still want to stay down at 6 mg nic if possible because my nic lasts really long and it's way cheaper for me, and I'm just cheap. lol.
Excellent advice as always and interesting posts. I used to vape at 18mg and had to lower it to 16 cuz' it was making me dizzy and ill. I don't know if I'll lower my nic intake, I'll just have to vape on that
I do believe that for most folks nicotine is not as addicting as we have been led to believe.
Certainly that has been borne out in my case.
It was impossible for me to go more than a few hours at best when I was smoking 3 PAD with a patch on for a year or so.
Just a little history; I have had a tricuspid valve replaced so I had open heart surgery,lobectomy {portion of a lung removed simply} also PAD and currently have a couple of clots in my lower right leg in addition to a slew of other issues.
Anyway I did have Asthma, and the usual host of breathing issues.
So I had been looking trying anything to stop smoking through the 37 years I smoked.
Myself I don't have high blood pressure and indeed I have not seen any increase in my pressure even while vaping continuously for hours though I did feel "cloudy" the first few weeks I vaped.
I've not seen any increase in blood pressure even while chain vaping at my Doctors office .
I do however have low blood pressure but figured if anyone's should go up mine would.......odd?
I have quit using the 5 inhalers I was dependent on, the anti-depressant's and everything except my pain meds.
I am hopeful that the next person who is booted for using a legal drug from their job will bring a lawsuit to stop the madness and insanity the insurance companies are forcing on us.
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Certainly that has been borne out in my case.
It was impossible for me to go more than a few hours at best when I was smoking 3 PAD with a patch on for a year or so.
Just a little history; I have had a tricuspid valve replaced so I had open heart surgery,lobectomy {portion of a lung removed simply} also PAD and currently have a couple of clots in my lower right leg in addition to a slew of other issues.
Anyway I did have Asthma, and the usual host of breathing issues.
So I had been looking trying anything to stop smoking through the 37 years I smoked.
Myself I don't have high blood pressure and indeed I have not seen any increase in my pressure even while vaping continuously for hours though I did feel "cloudy" the first few weeks I vaped.
I've not seen any increase in blood pressure even while chain vaping at my Doctors office .
I do however have low blood pressure but figured if anyone's should go up mine would.......odd?
I have quit using the 5 inhalers I was dependent on, the anti-depressant's and everything except my pain meds.
I am hopeful that the next person who is booted for using a legal drug from their job will bring a lawsuit to stop the madness and insanity the insurance companies are forcing on us.
C.B.
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For some people on certain insurance plans through their employer, if nicotine shows up in their blood work, they pay a hefty fee or increase in premium regardless of whether they actually smoke or not. They won't get fired, but they are fined excessively. Even if it's from using a nicotine patch and not smoking. There has to be a better way to handle this issue. People shouldn't get fined even while trying to quit smoking. Luckily I haven't had to deal with it yet but my office manager at work says she is waiting to get all the details as to the cost and rules soon from the government.
I vaped to get off of cigarettes. I succeeded! I'm not worried about nicotine, though I've been cutting down on my mg concentration due to less demand by the old body (g). Using nicotine makes you an easy target for the anti's (gives them someone they can legally vilify) and insurance companies (gives them someone they can legally charge more). If I do stop using the nicotine, then that will make me happy, primarily because of all of the people and corporations I've pi$$ed off by "stopping smoking". Hopefully with no one to vent their 'outrage' against they'll turn purple and blow up!!!!
I love and adore nicotine. That and coffee. I have only cut back due to extenuating circumstances which sorrow me. Lol. If otherwise I would gladly Vape higher nic and drink more coffee. Oh, and I do miss those diet cokes too! Lol. Just saying, I'm all for it but I can't anymore
I usually vape 6mg, unfortunately have some 18mg juices that are wayyy too good not to vape, but I actually just bought the 0mg versions of them. I'm going to use the 0mg as base, and mix in my 6mgs / 18mgs to essentially cut them in half (drop-by-drop), or even quarters, of their former levels. Thus 18 -> 9 -> 4.5; 6 -> 3 -> 1.5 mgs total.
I don't think I can go below 6 mg nic. I don't want to. Lol. I can't even contemplate zero nic. Lol. If I can't have 6 mg nic at least, I need to hang it up. Lol. Just saying...glad if others can but not me. Lol.
Yes, and like trumps said, I've been working on making coils to allow satisfaction from lower nic.
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