E-cigarette fans descend on St. Louis

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Vocalek

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Good for the reporter. At least she contacted the FDA and asked questions. Like the rest of us, unfortunately, she got BS for an answer.

When asked by the Post-Dispatch whether e-cigarettes are more harmful than regular ones, Siobhan DeLancey, an FDA spokesman, responded that the more relevant question is whether they're as safe and effective as FDA-approved smoking cessation products.

"The FDA will not know the answer to this question until the marketers of e-cigarettes seek FDA approval," DeLancey said in an e-mail.

I wish the reporter had asked DeLancey to specify the quantity of nitrosamines in e-cigs, FDA-approved smoking cessation products, and real cigarettes.
 

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I wanted to Digg this story, but there wasn't a button on the page. I tried to submit it to Digg and found that had already been done, but as far as I can see the only way to Digg it is to click on the 'share' button and find Digg in the list.

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Last year, the agency analyzed several brands from China — where most e-cigarettes are made — and turned up traces of toxic chemicals in some. One brand contained diethylene glycol, an ingredient in antifreeze. Several other brands, the FDA reported, had chemicals such as nitrosamines, the carcinogens found in tobacco

We need to learn the art of lying, without lying, too. It's so easy to tell only half the truth without putting it into context isn't it?
Forget the fact that all NRTs also have the same small amounts of nitrosamines and carcinogens too ehh?
Couldn't someone put up a blog post about how NRTs contain cancer causing nitrosamines?
Turn the tables on them?
 

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I wanted to Digg this story, but there wasn't a button on the page. I tried to submit it to Digg and found that had already been done, but as far as I can see the only way to Digg it is to click on the 'share' button and find Digg in the list.

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We need to learn the art of lying, without lying, too. It's so easy to tell only half the truth without putting it into context isn't it?
Forget the fact that all NRTs also have the same small amounts of nitrosamines and carcinogens too ehh?
Couldn't someone put up a blog post about how NRTs contain cancer causing nitrosamines?
Turn the tables on them?

Dr. Siegel has already done so. The Rest of the Story: Tobacco News Analysis and Commentary: Tobacco-Specific Carcinogens Found in Nicotine Replacement Products; Will Anti-Smoking Groups Call for Removal of these Products from the Market?

I wrote to the reporter and provided the specific quantities of TSNAs found in 1 g. of e-liquid (8 ng), the Patch (8 ng), a day's supply of Nicorette (16-20 ng) and a day's supply of Marlboros (110,000 ng)

I hope she will be inspired to dig deeper and expose the FDA's lies.

Those of us who rely on electronic cigarettes are in desperate need of an investigative journalist to print the truth about e-cigarettes before it’s too late.

It’s already too late for millions of people. Many foreign countries have banned the products, stating that the United States FDA determined that the products are dangerous. In the US, some who had switched to electronic cigarettes switched back to smoking, believing that was safer. Some smokers were considering making the switch, but decided not to. I wonder if the FDA is proud of doing such a good job of preventing smoking abstinence.
 

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What's this?!?

"Electronic cigarettes are battery-powered devices that deliver a spray of nicotine without any flame or smoke — just a puff of steam."

I have never had that spray feeling... Maybe I have a bad kit! lol!!!

:p

Might give a better throat hit!
 

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Gawd, y'all are making me want to crawl into a hole and pull it in after me. :oops:

What's really embarrassing is that I know for a fact that the reporter spent more time speaking with Treece than me . . . Treece provided a ton of background information that made the article possible. And then, of course, the reporter spoke with Spike both before and during Vapefest, as well as many vapers and vendors who attended Vapefest Friday afternoon.

I was really impressed with the reporter. She asked some tough questions and did her research . . . and managed to digest quite a bit of rather complicated information in an incredibly short time. I thought it was a fair and balanced article. I wish more reporters would do research like this one did.
 

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Gawd, y'all are making me want to crawl into a hole and pull it in after me. :oops:

What's really embarrassing is that I know for a fact that the reporter spent more time speaking with Treece than me . . . Treece provided a ton of background information that made the article possible. And then, of course, the reporter spoke with Spike both before and during Vapefest, as well as many vapers and vendors who attended Vapefest Friday afternoon.

I was really impressed with the reporter. She asked some tough questions and did her research . . . and managed to digest quite a bit of rather complicated information in an incredibly short time. I thought it was a fair and balanced article. I wish more reporters would do research like this one did.

Indeed, she did ask hard questions. Too bad that she didn't call out DeLancey for side-stepping the question that was actually asked.

When asked by the Post-Dispatch whether e-cigarettes are more harmful than regular ones, Siobhan DeLancey, an FDA spokesman, responded that the more relevant question is whether they're as safe and effective as FDA-approved smoking cessation products.
 

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Indeed, she did ask hard questions. Too bad that she didn't call out DeLancey for side-stepping the question that was actually asked.

I hear you. But then I remind myself that it took most of us awhile to come to the profound conclusion that we were being betrayed by the "Alphabet Soup Group." :(
 
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