E-Cigarette Forum Discussion Thread

[MagnusEunson]

Then you'd need similar clearances from the other individual states you'd be visiting. Unless you're the kind of person that thrives on paperwork and loves red tape I think it might be somewhat tedious!

This is one of the benefits of having been in SCI so long, this sort of thing works itself out well enough. The weight is the only issue and that's minor in comparison to the existing weight and case I'll be bringing. So I think if I take any of my gear, bringing the double is not an issue. It should be about 244oz so a bit over 15lb. It's way overkill for a asiatic buffalo but again, if I bring anything, might as well bring that too.

Following on from my previous question, I would have thought that having it regulated to 100-120 metres or thereabouts would be rather "distant" for that sort of weapon? It's not really the sort of distance at which one would be likely to use it, surely?

You're not wrong which is why I said "stupid" in my last response... regulating to parallel must be a term somebody thought up when trying to peddle to a rich Texan who was going to hunt Mexicans with it. Realistically anything more than 30m is useless to me. And in reality, especially w/ Hippo or Elephant, you're really taking 15m so regulating at 30m is more-or-less the maximum. -Magnus

 

[MagnusEunson]

I think the Q board and I to a point sees E cigs users as a way of still getting nictine-so basically it seem you're still a slave to nictine like we were when we smoked.

Slave? Some may be, I'm not. I use 0mg most of the day and weeks. And when I need a stimulant I use 10mg - 25mg. I go weeks at a time on 0mg. The habit has grown on me and has replaced others.

So the habit I'm addicted too but the nicotine, not so much.

And really, seriously.... this idea of being a "slave" to nicotine versus alcohol or many other things. There is a pretty big difference and failing to recognize the obvious is what seems to be the biggest issue at the Q. -Magnus

 

[nitejanitor]

So, you gonna buy one?

I'll get a price later-something with green & flowers would be cool.

 

[DC2]

Really!!!!!...........Warn me before you decide to do that...LOL

probably right tho...all the spectators watching this thread...and yes I DO LOOK...

Sorry dude, sometimes my fingers and my brain conspire to get ahead of my common sense.

 

[MustangSallie]

I think the Q board and I to a point sees E cigs users as a way of still getting nictine-so basically it seem you're still a slave to nictine like we were when we smoked.

That's what you got out of that entire post? Seriously? Pffft.

 

[MadmanMacguyver]

Sorry dude, sometimes my fingers and my brain conspire to get ahead of my common sense.

s'ok just caught me a little off guard...I could have left it there Magnus followed me or backed me up...however he wants to look at it but I kinda dislike being the only one standing alone in the center of a circle of peers...bad memories...

 

[DC2]

s'ok just caught me a little off guard...I could have left it there Magnus followed me or backed me up...however he wants to look at it but I kinda dislike being the only one standing alone in the center of a circle of peers...bad memories...

You'd think my brain would play a large part in the whole "common sense equation" but apparently not.
At least not for me.

I find that my common sense can only assert itself after all of my other senses and inclinations have had their say.
So my common sense seems to serve as nothing more than a brake on my primal instincts.

And it seems my primal instincts want to kick some ....

 

[MagnusEunson]

Sometimes MadMac loses me. I need a better thread following system than this default mess. *rubs chin* -Magnus

 

[Randyrtx]

Slave? Some may be, I'm not. I use 0mg most of the day and weeks. And when I need a stimulant I use 10mg - 25mg. I go weeks at a time on 0mg. The habit has grown on me and has replaced others.

So the habit I'm addicted too but the nicotine, not so much.

And really, seriously.... this idea of being a "slave" to nicotine versus alcohol or many other things. There is a pretty big difference and failing to recognize the obvious is what seems to be the biggest issue at the Q. -Magnus

That's kinda like me and coffee. I drink caffeinated in the morning for the stimulant, then switch to decaf. I'm more a slave to the ritual (and my favorite mugs) than I am the actual caffeine I think. I do tend to get headaches if I don't have my morning boost, though.

It's ludicrous to compare nicotine use to even alcohol, let alone other harmful drugs.

It's striking to me, that after a few weeks of lowered nicotine, my body's adjusted to it and it has the same effect now as it did previously at the higher level.

 

[kristin]

UMMMM Godiva chocolates...good stuff!!

(madman)looks up and decides to rummage around in the pantry to see what the wife has stashed..."be back later"..."if she doesn't catch me"...

I'm actually partial to good ole Hershey's. Their new Hershey's Bliss is awesome. (And very affordable on sale and with coupons, lol! )

I think the Q board and I to a point sees E cigs users as a way of still getting nictine-so basically it seem you're still a slave to nictine like we were when we smoked.

What we have here is a failure to communicate.

You can only be a slave to something if it's against your will.

I could choose another route and quit altogether, but since I have e-cigarettes, I don't have to. I CHOOSE to use an e-cigarette rather than try to quit altogether, since I see no point in quitting nicotine anymore. The only reason I ever wanted to quit nicotine was to quit smoking for health reasons. I felt I had no other choice - quit nicotine or smoke forever. THAT made me a slave to SMOKING. Now I have quit smoking without having to quit nicotine. I have CHOSEN to quit smoking and continue nicotine. If it's my choice, how can I be it's slave?

Yeah, I know - "junkie/addict" thinking, as they would say on QSMB. I'm just "rationalizing."

Again I ask them - if I'm happy, healthy and not destitute because of it, who cares if I'm addicted/dependent on something? An addiction is only bad if it HARMS YOU. My nicotine use is not harming me any more than my drinking coffee & Pepsi every day is. If I had to quit everything that I enjoy that may harm me then my life would be pretty sad and miserable. Name me one thing that people do or consume that doesn't carry SOME risk.

Maybe I could start running or walking instead? I could get skin cancer from sun exposure. I could get hit by a car. I could get robbed or even worse, abducted, raped and murdered. I could trip and hit my head on the sidewalk and get a brain aneurysm.

Maybe stay home and read? I could suffer from lack of sunlight. I could die in a house fire. I could get killed in a break-in. I could die from a carbon monoxide leak. A plane could hit my house. I could die of boredom. lol

Nothing is 100% safe and all of those things I listed above are just as likely as my nicotine use to kill or injure me.

There is just no valid reason for the QSMB folks to expect me to quit doing something I enjoy that isn't harming me just because "it's an addiction." I'm comfortable with this "addiction" and it isn't harming my health, my family's health or my finances. So they have yet to give me one good reason why I should quit other than "it's an addiction."

Maybe I should take up base jumping instead of vaping. They should be ok with that since at least I wouldn't be an addict.

 

[kristin]

I honestly don't think I even need the nicotine anymore. If Drew would just get off his .... and make me the Octane Mochaccino in 0mg I'd switch to that in a heartbeat! For me, it's more the habit, feel and taste than anything else. I'm already down to just 10mg. I have to badger Drew some more to make me some 0mg or learn to make it myself!

That's kinda like me and coffee. I drink caffeinated in the morning for the stimulant, then switch to decaf. I'm more a slave to the ritual (and my favorite mugs) than I am the actual caffeine I think. I do tend to get headaches if I don't have my morning boost, though.

It's ludicrous to compare nicotine use to even alcohol, let alone other harmful drugs.

It's striking to me, that after a few weeks of lowered nicotine, my body's adjusted to it and it has the same effect now as it did previously at the higher level.

 

[DC2]

Maybe I should take up base jumping instead of vaping. They should be ok with that since at least I wouldn't be an addict.

I'm thinking if you really want to kill yourself, rock climbing or riding a motorcycle should both suffice.

But it might take awhile.

 

[Randyrtx]

I'm at 6mg now... in another few weeks I'll likely drop to 4mg.

 

[MadmanMacguyver]

Sometimes MadMac loses me. I need a better thread following system than this default mess. *rubs chin* -Magnus

LOL...that would probably make it worse...I have a tendency to flutter around like a butterfly with a ZPE powered laser on its belly...and occasionally becoming so focused people worry it's going to rip holes in the fabric of the universe...or is it that you have been covering MY tracks...

no really I can barely follow me so how should I expect anyone else to...

Finally...no sleep for a few days.....its finally cooling off so I am going to take a breather...wish I had CBs pond now...not that I swim much but water is a great way to cool off...

 

[kristin]

You know, another good thing about e-cigarettes is that if I decided to quit vaping tomorrow and my husband didn't, his vaping wouldn't trigger me the way it did when we smoked and I quit but he didn't. First of all, my triggers are no longer valid - it's kind of a consistant thing rather than at set intervals. Second, his vapor smells different than mine (when I can actually smell it) and usually I can't even smell it. With smoking, smelling another smokers smoke always triggered a craving.

The other day we took a long walk with the little one and our boxer. My hubby brought his e-cig and I didn't. We were gone a couple of hours and even though I saw him puff on his a few times, I didn't have a "nic fit" like I used to when we were smoking. I didn't even run for my e-cig when we got home.

I guess that is another reason why I don't feel like a slave to my e-cig.

 

[nitejanitor]

I like these stories-its like yeah you can vape or whatever but also can choose not to-thats interesting & weird. By weird it seems like you'd do it like you did cigs but most of you say no its not that way-in a way its like why bother?

 

[Randyrtx]

The only trigger I get from being around a smoker now is to get out of range as quickly as possible!

 

[Randyrtx]

I like these stories-its like yeah you can vape or whatever but also can choose not to-thats interesting & weird. By weird it seems like you'd do it like you did cigs but most of you say no its not that way-in a way its like why bother?

I do it because I like to... I like the taste, and I like blowing vapor... and I can blow vapor rings!

 

[MadmanMacguyver]

Agreed...anything burning leaves a horrible taste in my mouth whether I breathe in much or not...

and to make a point...I said this earlier and removed it as It seemed I was the only one answering a comment that went away...

Most of my eliquids I make are no nic...I have some for when I wake up or get over stressed and thats anywhere from 16-24mg/ml but it is not my all day vape...my all day vape is 0 nic...why...1) because I still vape like I smoked...like a freight train...2) the nic affects the flavor and I am constantly working out new flavors to try...

 

[kristin]

I like these stories-its like yeah you can vape or whatever but also can choose not to-thats interesting & weird. By weird it seems like you'd do it like you did cigs but most of you say no its not that way-in a way its like why bother?

Why bother eating sweets? Why bother drinking soda or coffee (no nutritional value at all?) Why bother having a hobby? Why bother posting on internet forums?

Because we like it!

ETA: You know, sitting here vaping I realized that if I wasn't using my e-cig I would probably be eating something that wasn't good for me or biting my cuticles or nails. Vaping keeps me from doing something else that I wouldn't want to be doing because I wouldn't like the results of those behaviors. (So I know I definitely have a hand-to-mouth thing.)

My mom is morbidly obese. She has an eating disorder tied to depression. She has struggled with her weight all my life, even on anti-depressants. She had tried everything short of stomach staples to lose weight and always put it back on. I'm not exactly skinny (could lose about 40 lbs) but I know I'd probably have to lose 150lbs (like my mom) if I didn't smoke (now vape.) My family has a history of eating disorders, alcoholism and drug abuse - which I think all stems from a genetic chemical depression that my grandparents, aunts and uncles on my mom's side self-medicating. Ironically, very few of them smoked. I smoked, but didn't end up morbidly obese, alcoholic or a drug abuser. Being "addicted" to e-cigarettes just pales in comparision to what COULD have been for me. The cigarettes could have killed me, but the the vaping won't - and it keeps me from other distructive behavior. I can't see the bad in that.