E-Cigarettes and Deposits in lungs

[StealthBombing]

Hey all,

Quick question, when using e-cigarettes since they produce a "mist" (lack of a better word). Everytime you use it is it depositing water in your lungs, specifically when you stealth vape ? also does the use of e-cigarettes affect the cilia in your lungs.


Thanks, sorry if this is the wrong spot to post

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

I've heard that inhaling the vapor into the lungs may slow down the healing of your cilia if you just quit smoking, but they do heal in the end so I don't think it actually harms. I'm not a medical professional by any means though. Also, you don't need to inhale the vapor in order to get the nicotine. Nicotine in this form is absorbed through your mouth, not you lungs. If you are concerned, you don't need to inhale.

 

[jefsview]

Hey all,

Quick question, when using e-cigarettes since they produce a "mist" (lack of a better word). Everytime you use it is it depositing water in your lungs, specifically when you stealth vape ? also does the use of e-cigarettes affect the cilia in your lungs.


Thanks, sorry if this is the wrong spot to post

There is a wealth of medical and health information here:

Health, Safety and E-Smoking

 

[Vaslovik]

All I can say is that your lungs are already quite moist, breathing in fog does the same thing, so does a hot shower, and since I gave up smoking for vaping I'm a great deal healthier, I don't cough up gunk anymore, my lung function is vastly improved, I can smell things again, and the Peripheral arterial disease I had from smoking has ceased.

That my lung function has so drastically improved over my year of vaping and not smoking tells me not to worry about vapor building up fluid in my lungs, because it's not happening. A fluid buildup in the lungs would be quite painful and distressing, and I feel none of that, nor does anyone else posting here or we would have heard about it long ago and often.

So the point of your question is.....???

 

[e-pipeman]

I rather like your username. What does it mean?

There is no evidence to suggest that vaping will give you water-filled lungs. Now if we were talking about tobacco....

 

[AgentAnia]

Hey all,

Quick question, when using e-cigarettes since they produce a "mist" (lack of a better word). Everytime you use it is it depositing water in your lungs, specifically when you stealth vape ? also does the use of e-cigarettes affect the cilia in your lungs.


Thanks, sorry if this is the wrong spot to post

Vaping does not "deposit water" in your lungs any more than taking a steam bath or hot shower, or even, as I do, living in a climate where the humidity is generally about 70%. As for your cilia, perhaps a pulmonologist would be the person to ask.

Remember that the human lung has evolved to handle a tremendous variety of conditions, with or without vaping added to the equation.

 

[Traver]

The vapor you see is water most of which comes from your lungs. Vaping will remove water from you lungs. So does breathing.

 

[Anjaffm]

Not to worry. Actually, vaping may be beneficial due to the germicidal effects of propylene glycol.

Propylene glycol in e cigarettes might keep us healthy, says researchers

Propylene glycol, the primary ingredient in the electronic cigarette cartridge, may be a powerful deterrent against pneumonia, influenza, and other respiratory diseases when vaporized and inhaled according to a study by Dr. Oswald Hope Robertson

The scare that vaping can allegedly cause water to accumulate in your lungs is completely unfounded.
It was started at the same time that the DKFZ (German Cancer Research Institute) published the obvious lie that glycerine is an oil (false, it is an alcohol) and that inhaling glycerine can thus, allegedly, give you lipoid pneumonia (false, because glycerine is not an oil). See here: German Cancer Research Center Lies about Health Effects of Electronic Cigarettes to Scare Users and Unfairly Influence EU Directive

A new vaper is well advised to read up on the subject. After being inundanted with FUD in the media, the truth is a real eye-opener.

 

[StealthBombing]

thanks for the responses

 

[e-pipeman]

thanks for the responses

Happy to oblige.

 

[AgentAnia]

Who said courtesy is dead on the internet?!

 

[Sl4gathor]

Not to worry. Actually, vaping may be beneficial due to the germicidal effects of propylene glycol.

Propylene glycol in e cigarettes might keep us healthy, says researchers



The scare that vaping can allegedly cause water to accumulate in your lungs is completely unfounded.
It was started at the same time that the DKFZ (German Cancer Research Institute) published the obvious lie that glycerine is an oil (false, it is an alcohol) and that inhaling glycerine can thus, allegedly, give you lipoid pneumonia (false, because glycerine is not an oil). See here: German Cancer Research Center Lies about Health Effects of Electronic Cigarettes to Scare Users and Unfairly Influence EU Directive

A new vaper is well advised to read up on the subject. After being inundanted with FUD in the media, the truth is a real eye-opener.

I been wondering this for a while....
I also wonder if it benefits your mouth too, killing bacteria and what not...

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[Anjaffm]

I been wondering this for a while....
I also wonder if it benefits your mouth too, killing bacteria and what not...

Well, it may be beneficial. Toothpaste kills germs. And toothpaste definitely contains propylene glycol. It may not be the most important active ingredient in that respect, but a substance with germicidal effects definitely cannot hurt

 

[amolson]

Two things are very different about vapor. One, the particulate size of the vapor is much larger than smoke, which means it doesn't get as far down into the lungs. It's the little bitty tiny pockets at the very end that are the most fragile. Vapor can't get that far, whereas smoke can. I can't remember where I saw this, but it may or may not have been from a major journal.

And even if it could, the cell toxicity (or how many cells are celled when in contact with the product of vaping or smoking) of pure PG/VG is 0. Flavored PG/VG is not 0, but it's close enough for jazz. If you soak the cells in the fluid, some of them might die, maybe, at very high concentrations of flavoring. Even nicotine bearing juice is only toxic at concentrations of 50% or higher AND it is far less than cigarette smoke, which is extremely toxic. It causes cell death at concentrations greater than 6.25%. This was from a juried journal article in I want to say New England Journal of Medicine. But it was a major, major journal.

Things in this field have changed, radically. If you look at the juried journals, like NEJM, they were all, "Uh, we don't know. It could be ... Maybe ..." Today, from articles published in late 2013 and 2014, it seems they've figured out it's definitely better than cigarette smoke and 0 nic is like taking a bubble bath. The studies for these articles were probably done a year or two ago (that's the turnaround for most major journals) and it usually takes at least a few years for the journals to hit the public.

I do have access to pretty much all the major journals, but anyone can get their hands on the abstracts through Google Scholar. Now this is not light reading but you can go to a medical research library or library for a major university and ask the librarian for help. If it's a medical library, the librarian knows enough about the subject to translate or they can snag a student to help you.

I think what's happened is that we're seeing students who vape and they are now running these studies. Figured that would happen. You still need to get published to get an MS or PhD or even MD. So, why not do a paper on something personally interesting?

 

[Timactionfigures]

Not to worry. Actually, vaping may be beneficial due to the germicidal effects of propylene glycol.

Propylene glycol in e cigarettes might keep us healthy, says researchers



The scare that vaping can allegedly cause water to accumulate in your lungs is completely unfounded.
It was started at the same time that the DKFZ (German Cancer Research Institute) published the obvious lie that glycerine is an oil (false, it is an alcohol) and that inhaling glycerine can thus, allegedly, give you lipoid pneumonia (false, because glycerine is not an oil). See here: German Cancer Research Center Lies about Health Effects of Electronic Cigarettes to Scare Users and Unfairly Influence EU Directive

A new vaper is well advised to read up on the subject. After being inundanted with FUD in the media, the truth is a real eye-opener.

I can attest to this. This past Winter was my first Winter since quitting smoking and vaping instead. Whereas in the past I would get multiple bad colds in the course of a Winter, I had only one very minor cold that I wouldn't even call a cold! It was so mild I barely noticed it!

So I dunno....lets BAN this obviously HORRIBLE POISON that KILLS!

 

[Bernard Marx]

I've often wondered if VG has larger 'droplets' of vapour and hence less lung penetration and various contingent effects than PG.

 

[e-pipeman]

I've often wondered if VG has larger 'droplets' of vapour and hence less lung penetration and various contingent effects than PG.

I use almost exclusively vg these days. There's a little pg in my nic base, but such a small amount that I welcome it for its possible anti-bacterial properties.

 

[DrMA]

The vapor you see is water most of which comes from your lungs. Vaping will remove water from you lungs. So does breathing.

+1 This ^^^^

Most (or all) of the water vapor in the exhaled cloud you see when vaping would've been exhaled anyway with normal breathing. The alveolar spaces in your lungs are filled with air at body temperature and 100% humidity, which gets replaced with ambient air (generally cooler and drier) with every breath you take. All that water gets lost, and you can even see it, if the ambient temperature is low enough to cause that moisture to condense - that's why you exhale what looks like steam in the winter.

 

[Anjaffm]

I can attest to this. This past Winter was my first Winter since quitting smoking and vaping instead. Whereas in the past I would get multiple bad colds in the course of a Winter, I had only one very minor cold that I wouldn't even call a cold! It was so mild I barely noticed it!

Same here.
I used to get bronchitis about 3 times a winter, as a smoker. The kind of bronchitis where every breath hurts and that stays with you forever.
- Not one case of bronchitis since I switched to vaping. And I have been through 3 winters since then

So I dunno....lets BAN this obviously HORRIBLE POISON that KILLS!

But dear... just imagine all that medication that Big P was not able to sell because we did not get bronchitis and stayed healthy instead
My heart bleeds for them. NOT.

 

[Forkeh]

No you're not depositing mist. Mist is made of very fine particles of liquid in its liquid state. What you're breathing in, instead, is vapor. Vapor is the same molecules, in their gaseous state. You've got the wrong state of matter and that makes a difference. You can't drown in a gas.