Lung cancer?

[Outcast]

I volunteer EMT I have seen what smoking has done and why I looked in to vaping if you have see cough up blood clots it would be enough for you to quit today don't kid your self cancers bad but a lot of your stuff it causes just as bad as well if you ever seen somebody suffering from COPD or emphysema for 10+ years you would never smoke. I have seen all stages of it and none of it looks fun.


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[tjeco]

Don't get me wrong, I've never smoked a single cigarette in my life. When e cigarettes first came to the market, I thought it was some fad at first. Seeing some people use it at first. I wanted to give it a try. Speed up to the present time. I currently have a ce4 with an ego t battery and I use my own ejuice with pure vg and some flavoring. I vape purely for fun. So sorry for the story let me get to the point, can vaping cause lung cancer? Has anyone gotten lung cancer off of vaping?
Thanks!
S

Vaping "MAY" not be 99.99999% Safe. But it sure is 95% safe than cigarrettes!

 

[Nimaz]

Don't get me wrong, I've never smoked a single cigarette in my life. When e cigarettes first came to the market, I thought it was some fad at first. Seeing some people use it at first. I wanted to give it a try. Speed up to the present time. I currently have a ce4 with an ego t battery and I use my own ejuice with pure vg and some flavoring. I vape purely for fun. So sorry for the story let me get to the point, can vaping cause lung cancer? Has anyone gotten lung cancer off of vaping?
Thanks!
S

Cancer and more specifically lung cancer results from a combination of factors. Genetic predisposition is one, but it doesn't say much. 10 to 15% of smokers develop lung cancer. It's a lot but not a majority so you can intuitively deduce that cig promote to lung cancer by observing that the majority of lung cancer patients are smokers (but some are non-smokers). COPD and cardiovascular diseases are of higher prevalence in long term smokers. Our immune system systematically control the outgrowth of tumor cells by killing affected cells. So impairment of the immune system surveillance such as in some diseases (diabetes...) or in elders or after environmental exposure (radiations, asbestos, smoke) . Poor nutrition is also a predisposition factor. So if one vaps with some this predispositions factors, chances are that she/he may develop lung cancer if she/he vaps without them.

Now taking the risk of vaping may lead to surprising results... Vaps could be a negative factor or protective or with no effects against lung cancers. All depends on what is in the vap and PG have been used successfully to deliver medicine through the lungs. One study showed that some specific flavors kills lung cells. We can estimate the risks of vaping, which seems quite low compare to smoke but we can also try to appreciate the benefits.

 

[WillyZee]

Has anyone gotten lung cancer off of vaping?
Thanks!
S

no, there has not been found a single case of lung cancer caused by vaping

 

[caramel]

In a 1950s science textbook, radiation is not described as being dangerous.

It's 2015 and radon is still not considered such a threat as to include its testing in the Building Code.

 

[caramel]

no, there has not been found a single case of lung cancer caused by vaping

Plan B: even if there is, we can blame it on smoking (since we all smoked at some time in the past).

 

[BigEgo]

Don't get me wrong, I've never smoked a single cigarette in my life. When e cigarettes first came to the market, I thought it was some fad at first. Seeing some people use it at first. I wanted to give it a try. Speed up to the present time. I currently have a ce4 with an ego t battery and I use my own ejuice with pure vg and some flavoring. I vape purely for fun. So sorry for the story let me get to the point, can vaping cause lung cancer? Has anyone gotten lung cancer off of vaping?
Thanks!
S

No one knows yet. I would say it's safer not to vape than to vape, but it's also certainly safer to vape than to smoke. I think the vaping industry will move more toward safety in the coming years. Temp control (a big step forward) is already here. Next I can see more examinations of liquids/flavoring and removing harmful compounds. Who knows, we might find a better solvent to replace PG/VG.

 

[2buildawall]

I also do not know a single person that has died from lung cancer. My grandmother died from stomach cancer and she never smoked. My aunt died from breast cancer, she smoked until she was originally diagnosed. A long time ago I knew a young man who died from testicular cancer. I know people who have either had or died from about every type of cancer but I cannot think of one who had lung cancer. Odd really.....

 

[Elizabeth Baldwin]

That's an easy one to answer.... First off, I researched what a few head scientists (Molecular Biologists) some years back said in regards to their discoveries in the radiation given off my tobacco smoke. It's similar to the x rays given off by chest x rays. Over long periods of time, it eventually causes the genetic trigger to be flipped and the cells to turn cancerous. The experts stated that it is not a question of if you will get lung cancer but that it is almost guaranteed you will develop it if given enough time and exposure. Of course, this isn't even counting all of the other carcinogens found in tar.

I smoked for many years myself..... I lost my Mother to lung cancer awhile back and that wasn't fun...She was also a smoker for many years, not that it means much. But what does mean a lot is not just what researchers have discovered in regards to smoking, but also in the pure numbers of non smoker vs. smokers who contract lung cancer. In my entire life, I have only witnessed one person that contracted lung cancer than did not smoke. All of the rest of the people who I have known that have gotten lung cancer (which has been quite a few) were all smokers. This in itself ought to tell you something. Or at least it would for anyone with common sense.

Ask any Pathologist about lung cancer and you will quickly be informed that there are several types of lung cancer (none good to get) and each different type is associated with different causation's. Yes, most all cancers have a genetic component to them. But it is well known that smoking often triggers those genetic weaknesses.

We all know people who seem to smoke for many years but never die from it. But, it must be realized that these types of people are the extreme exceptions. How many people do you know that smoked for 70 years that are still alive to tell you about it? How about 60 years? I bet you can't name many because the simple fact of the matter is that people who smoke that long usually die from either lung cancer or other smoking related health issues. Most people I have seen that make it to 50 years of smoking are usually the ones I have noticed that get lung cancer.

You can't argue with the math....More smokers get lung cancer than non smokers...just a fact.

Why are all you ex smoking vapers on this forum not still smoking if you think it is so healthy? The reason why is because deep down most of you KNOW it is not good for you, especially the lungs.

I don't doubt that smoking increases your chances for cancer. However, my 72 year old Dad died of a hemorrhage, unrelated to smoking, yet he smoked since he was 13 years old. My Mother is still alive and smoked for well over 50 years and she's healthy. Her only problem is high blood pressure. I introduced her to vaping about a year ago. My aunt smoked for 40+ years and no cancer. My Grandfather died at 89. He smoked one right after another for at least 70 years. He never developed cancer. He died in surgery for a heart bypass.

My point is I believe what we think we know we don't. We believe all these so called studies, but we really don't know the other factors involved. Look at all the so called studies on vaping. If you took some of them at face value it could lead you to believe vaping is really bad. But we are more informed today than years ago. We now know there's hidden agendas and many times studies are being funded by people who have gain from the results.

I'm not saying smoking doesn't cause cancer. I'm saying if you ever smoked they will lay the blame on smoking when you do die. when a person dies that's vaped now guess what will be blamed....vaping!

 

[Nimaz]

Even if you don't smoke, there is no guarantee you won't get lung cancer. I found this:

Lung Cancer Risks for Non-smokers

Interesting article. I was interested by this topic awhile ago because I had an early stage lung cancer removed from my lobe about 3 years ago. Too young for that as I was not smoking much either. I worked for a while (~13 years) with asbestos in the place, even cut into a fire in there. Also, worked in labs with radioactive isotopes and finally diabetic. Without counting the numerous Xrays I had to go through from job to job (my skin TB test always come positive). Smoking probably helped but shoot too young for that and as the paper was saying, "it's your fault" , "you are fired" (guess? from the company that makes Chantix), "you gonna die, I am sorry", "i am done with you" making recovery quite painful on a psychological stand point. The double pain... "Lungs are clear, normal heart" my doc said at my xray last week... I vap , run like a gazelle, swim like a dolphin everyday and enjoying everyday of my life.

 

[Nimaz]

Don't get me wrong, I've never smoked a single cigarette in my life. When e cigarettes first came to the market, I thought it was some fad at first. Seeing some people use it at first. I wanted to give it a try. Speed up to the present time. I currently have a ce4 with an ego t battery and I use my own ejuice with pure vg and some flavoring. I vape purely for fun. So sorry for the story let me get to the point, can vaping cause lung cancer? Has anyone gotten lung cancer off of vaping?
Thanks!
S

Just go ahead and keep vaping if you enjoy it, like a cup of coffee if you wish. You still can bread, swim, run, laugh and all the rest. Chances are higher to die from a car accident than vaping so far. Don't switch to analogs though.... these make life miserable. The good thing about cancer though, if you ever got it, you will have time to plan your burial and say your good byes. Enjoy each day as if it's your last one and if vaping helps then go for it.

 

[JMarca]

There will inevitably be at least one case of a vaper contracting lung cancer. The question is did it come from vaping... remember the simple act of breathing can give you cancer these days and I'm sure SOMEONE out there will take the opportunity to give us a bad name.

 

[DC2]

If your that worried stop vaping because no one here can give you the absolute definitive answer

I would say if you are worried about vaping becoming a health issue...
Reduce or remove flavorings and sweeteners.

Nicotine, PG, and VG seem very unlikely to lead to significant health issues for the most part.

Vaping unflavored doesn't suck at all.
In fact, it's quite pleasant.

I don't personally vape unflavored all that often.
But if I was more worried than I currently am, I would vape it much more often than I do now.

 

[Rizzyking]

Truth is we have some understanding of cancer but nowhere close to the full picture or we'd have cured it as a disease over the last few years I've heard a lot about increased vehicle numbers being a contributory factor as well as smoking. I'm not a doctor or medical in anyway but there is no definitive answer right now as I said before it's a personal judgement call about vaping for me it's a lot better then me smoking, only you have the answer for you.

 

[tj99959]

Well that study in England said that vaping is 95% safer than smoking. So I suppose that means that vaping is 5% more dangerous than using neither.

 

[DeAnna2112]

The problem with smoking is it causes soo many other problems aside from cancer though. The only concerns i have with vaping is vaping flavors..which i now avoid. Other then that i feel pretty safe vaping pg/vg/nic.

 

[bloodless2010]

Lung cancer? No. Damage from mishandled mods/batteries? Yes.
The most common danger I see from vaping is exploding batteries ( I say common; but what I mean is in regards to how much news there is about vape dangers I see ). This is what happens when people don't research into what they're doing enough. I personally don't even feel like making the step to mods which use 18650 batteries because I don't feel like I know enough about them yet. Also, flavourings may contain diketones. Vaping isn't 100% safe. But I can sure as hell say it's at-least 95% better than smoking cancer sticks. What's 4000 carcinogens vs 2 sugar alcohols (VG&PG), 1 alkaloid (nicotine) and 1 sometimes possibly dangerous substance (Flavouring)?

Edit: forgot to mention this can/does happen with ANY kind of battery.

 

[stevegmu]

Lung and respiratory irritation are never good...

 

[Nimaz]

One scientific study shows that some flavors, no others can cause lung cells damage. I just read the abstract and they demonstrate that by using some in vitro assays so the validity may be arguable but it worth looking into it though.