E-Cigarettes - Let's Think Before We Inhale

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Petrodus

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Another brilliant "Huffy Post" e-cig article (sarcasm)

So ... of course, the link is broken
Put the following together

http://
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"From device to packaging, e-cigarettes are designed to look exactly like a traditional cigarette but without the harsh flavor or burning sensation when inhaled. This would seem to produce a greater likelihood of second use, third use, and so forth, setting the user on a faster path to addiction and guaranteeing sales for years. Flavoring the "e-juice" with cherry, peach and menthol creates direct appeal to children and adolescents. Clever advertising by the tobacco industry makes e-cigarettes the perfect bridge to other addictive substances including conventional cigarettes. Once again the tobacco industry is marketing the disease of addiction."
 

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Another brilliant "Huffy Post" e-cig article (sarcasm)

So ... of course, the link is broken
Put the following together

http://
tinyur
l.com/m53d69m

"From device to packaging, e-cigarettes are designed to look exactly like a traditional cigarette but without the harsh flavor or burning sensation when inhaled. This would seem to produce a greater likelihood of second use, third use, and so forth, setting the user on a faster path to addiction and guaranteeing sales for years. Flavoring the "e-juice" with cherry, peach and menthol creates direct appeal to children and adolescents. Clever advertising by the tobacco industry makes e-cigarettes the perfect bridge to other addictive substances including conventional cigarettes. Once again the tobacco industry is marketing the disease of addiction."

After reading that paragraph, Petrodus, I'm scared to see what the rest of the article looks like!
 

Petrodus

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After reading that paragraph, Petrodus, I'm scared to see what the rest of the article looks like!
Don't read the article ... It's just ...
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:p
 

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My comment, awaiting approval:

FACT: Smoking is addictive. Smoke contains thousands of chemicals, and it is most likely that its addictiveness is due to a combination of chemicals rather than nicotine alone. The MAO Inhibitors in tobacco, for example, have an antidepressant effect. Whether or not nicotine, per se, is addictive is a matter of controversy.
FACT: Surveys of youth found that nearly all were tobacco cigarette smokers before trying an e-cigarette.
FACT: A growing body of evidence shows that adult smokers are the main users of e-cigarettes.
FACT: The UK's Royal College of Physicians reported in 2007, "It appears increasingly probable that some smokers may experience very long-term, perhaps lifelong, disruption of brain function, mood and/or cognitive ability following smoking cessation. Such individuals may require similarly long-term treatment support or nicotine maintenance."
FACT: Switching to a non-smoked source of nicotine allows these former smokers to stop damaging their lungs and cardiovascular systems without having to suffer from disruption of brain function, mood, or cognitive ability. Thus, nicotine abstinence is not a necessary condition for smoking abstinence and may actually be harmful for a substantial percent of smokers.
FACT: Smoking for just two more months is more hazardous to health than switching to a smoke-free product and using it for the rest of one's natural life. So forcing e-cigarette users to go back to smoking until the government declares e-cigarettes 100% safe will result in hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of unnecessary deaths.
 

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One of the comments below the article

Right on. I'll just use my tobacco flavored nicotine gum instead! Wait, what's that you say? Nicotine gum doesn't come in tobacco flavor? Why ever not? You a say it only comes in candy and fruit flavors?! The horror. This is clearly an attempt to get the children hooked on nicotine. Outrage! We must put a stop to this immediately.

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That was me!

This boggles me, because as far as I know nicotine gum has NEVER come in tobacco flavor. They don't want it to, because #1 that would be beyond revolting and #2 the point of nicotine gum is to get away from anything that minds you of cigarettes (except the nicotine, of course). Why all the drama about non-tobacco flavored liquids?

I'm trying to remember about when nicotine gum came out. I do remember there was a lot of push back when they made it OTC. People were hand wringing with much of the same arguments they are using now against ecigs. What about the children, what if people become addicted, it's not addressing the addiction? I briefly tried searching for some articles about the debate when they made the gum OTC, but I got distracted. This would have been in the early stages of the Internet, so you'd have to find archived articles I guess.
 
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I'm trying to remember about when nicotine gum came out.

I know for sure that in 1985 it was sold as a prescription medication. I was pregnant then and the docs wouldn't prescribe it to pregnant women. So that date is pretty well burned into my head.


Edit: OK, the more I think about it, it was the nicotine patch at that time, not the gum. So, I'm not sure on the gum release date either. However, when I look at that date it boggles the mind that they've been pushing the ineffective crap for almost 3 decades now.
 
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I suggest the public at large ... who reads articles on the Net
probably "skims" through the articles and then scrolls down to
read the comments ... looking for the reactions and chit-chat.

The "comments" section is a form of Social Networking
and of course ... today that is where many are finding the truth.

It's understood that we need to step in and inform the public
of the truth with facts, statistics, and our testimonies.

I also suggest using humor ... poking fun ... joking about the authors
is a very very effective way to get our message out.
When we interject humor it SCREAMS the author is either
uninformed, an idiot, or has an agenda.
:p
 

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Please note that CASA Columbia and most other anti addiction groups oppose all forms of harm reduction (regardless of the drug) because (as they claim) addiction is a chronic disease and total abstinence is the only effective treatment.

These "anti addiction" extremists advocate the War on Drugs, some still support Alcohol Prohibition, and they promote "quit or die" remedies for all drug use (which they call "abuse" or "addiction") and for all drug users (who they call stigmatize by calling them "abusers" and "addicts").

The only solution they want to impose upon everybody is to quit all drinking, quit all illegal drug use, quit all tobacco use, and quit all prescription drug use (unless you have a currently valid prescription).

Any drug user who disagrees with them is called "in denial", and everyone else who disagrees with them is called a "drug addiction enabler".
 
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That was me!

This boggles me, because as far as I know nicotine gum has NEVER come in tobacco flavor. They don't want it to, because #1 that would be beyond revolting and #2 the point of nicotine gum is to get away from anything that minds you of cigarettes (except the nicotine, of course). Why all the drama about non-tobacco flavored liquids?

I'm trying to remember about when nicotine gum came out. I do remember there was a lot of push back when they made it OTC. People were hand wringing with much of the same arguments they are using now against ecigs. What about the children, what if people become addicted, it's not addressing the addiction? I briefly tried searching for some articles about the debate when they made the gum OTC, but I got distracted. This would have been in the early stages of the Internet, so you'd have to find archived articles I guess.

I recall seeing some articles in scientific journals on the topic, so a PubMed search might be more fruitful than Google. You might have to go back a couple of decades.
 

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I recall seeing some articles in scientific journals on the topic, so a PubMed search might be more fruitful than Google. You might have to go back a couple of decades.

Yes, I will definitely do that. That sounds like a project for another day. Lol. I'm not even sure what I want to get out of it. I guess it would be interesting if we had historical hand wringing about all these same questions and could at least say that the worries were unfounded. Drawing a parallel to ecigs, maybe.
 

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Any drug user who disagrees with them is called "in denial", and everyone else who disagrees with them is called a "drug addiction enabler".
You can see this dynamic at work in various hardcore quit-smoking forums.
It would almost be funny if it wasn't so dangerous and misguided.
 
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