e-cigg and patches

[lopster]

Hello, I'm trying a different route. as to most i fell for the smoke assist. ugh. what can you do. i am using it, and it wasn't enough. sooo i threw a patch on. made life ALOT easier. I ordered joye 510 starter kit, and extra stuff from ciggnot and waiting for it. i havent smoked a analog in 2 days. i do use my smoke assist untill my 510 gets here. Has anyone tried patches mixed with there e-cigg? i ordered no nicotine juices, so im hoping... the patches will lean me off nicotine, and then the 510 will slowly lean me off the habit. i quit smoking for 9 months 5 years ago. started back up one night out with the boys. so im leaning on having my 510 around for a while. for those just incase scenerios. hope this works!!!

 

[CemeteryMan]

Hello, I'm trying a different route. as to most i fell for the smoke assist. ugh. what can you do. i am using it, and it wasn't enough. sooo i threw a patch on. made life ALOT easier. I ordered joye 510 starter kit, and extra stuff from ciggnot and waiting for it. i havent smoked a analog in 2 days. i do use my smoke assist untill my 510 gets here. Has anyone tried patches mixed with there e-cigg? i ordered no nicotine juices, so im hoping... the patches will lean me off nicotine, and then the 510 will slowly lean me off the habit. i quit smoking for 9 months 5 years ago. started back up one night out with the boys. so im leaning on having my 510 around for a while. for those just incase scenerios. hope this works!!!

DO NOT combine the patch while using e-juice that has any nicotine content. Why not skip the patch and get some juice with nic? You can lower your nicotine consumption while still satisfying the habit.... What you're suggesting is like having an IV dripping alcohol into your veins but drinking non-alcoholic beer... what's the point of that?

 

[MacDiver]

I agree. Just get some 24 and go from there. I'm vaping like crazy on 18 but have been off of 2-3 packs a day for four days. Waiting for my Rath and Ms T's 25 to get here.

 

[CaptJay]

I see your idea - but you'll probably get less and more controllable nic levels from the juice than a patch. Just my 2 cents, you're an adult and capable of making your own decisions, but I've never found the patches to be a 'good' source. Got very anxious on them, the nic levels seemed super high, even the low ones. I personally feel far more in control using a PV and being in sole charge of how much, or how little nic I actually consume (or think i consume, it could well be a lot less than I think its, there's some debate on the efficacy of nic absorbtion through the lungs/mouth than skin).
I wish you all the best whatever you choose - I presume you posted here because you wanted opinions?
It may well be that the PV you have right now (smoke assists is it?) is so bad that you felt the need to resort to patches - you shouldn't find that with a better unit. With a good unit you may well find no need to rely on the patch as its more reliable and just more pleasant in general.

 

[~Jo~]

Has anyone tried patches mixed with there e-cigg? i ordered no nicotine juices, so im hoping... the patches will lean me off nicotine, and then the 510 will slowly lean me off the habit.

I considered this myself and I still see a lot of advantages in going this route, as long as you're using no nic juice. The patch is designed to slowly wean people off nicotine addiction, and it would be an incredible product if only it could help with the habit as well as the addiction. With a patch for the addiction and the e-cig for the habit, I don't see why it shouldn't work. It would also free you from trying to find the right level of nicotine in your e-liquids. And, you could always buy a small amount of nicotine containing juice to keep on hand just in case you decided it wasn't working.

The reason I decided not to go this route was because I was afraid that it wouldn't work for me, knowing that I wasn't getting anything from the e-cig, and the patches make me feel funny sometimes. So I'm going to try to slowly reduce my nicotine intake once I'm vaping full time.

The point is the *quitting*. Whatever you decide to do, best wishes to you.

 

[sheep]

I started vaping with the intention of using the patch and no-nic juice. That lasted for about a week. Then I realized that the nic juice was much much cheaper than the patches, or the gum! So once I ran out of patches I switched to an 18mg nic juice, which was fine for me. These days I'm finding it a bit much so am mixing it down to 9mg, and that is working fine for me too. Eventually I plan to get down to 0 mg.

I have a few 0 mg juices and find that I really enjoy just sitting back and vaping them. I just love the act of "smoking", moreso than the nicotine I think.

 

[lopster]

thx for the replies. i havent smoked a analog for 2 days. i did get the 0 nicotine e-juice. Im thinking like this. if i can just vape when the "habit" kicks in, it wont be because im feening for nicotine. so if the patch is feeding the nicotine, the vapor is feeding my "habit" hopefully that makes sense. with me doin this for 2 days now, i have only found myself in the garage 2x vapon. today only once so far.
i see your point in the beer comparison. altho i dont know anyone that gets addicted to the hand to mouth repeating with drinking beer, while lots of addictions with smoking is this sensation of hand to mouth. thus a strong one for me.
i think it will work, for me. trading the analog for vapon, and vapon when im needing to feed the "habit" the patches take care of the nicotine addiction. hopefully it makes sense...

 

[Quick1]

I sampled a couple of patches the doc gave me a long time ago. The thing I found was that the patch is a constant, long term dose. My cravings go up and down depending on mood/stress/what I'm doing/etc. So I tried the really strong one and kind of felt like I had the heebee jeebies most of the day. Nicotine gum was better for variable strength short term doses but there were other issues with that and I ended up smoking and using the gum when I couldn't or it was inconvenient.

 

[lopster]

I started vaping with the intention of using the patch and no-nic juice. That lasted for a few about a week. Then I realized that the nic juice was much much cheaper than the patches, or the gum! So once I ran out of patches I switched to an 18mg nic juice, which was fine for me. These days I'm finding it a bit much so am mixing it down to 9mg, and that is working fine for me too. Eventually I plan to get down to 0 mg.

I have a few 0 mg juices and find that I really enjoy just sitting back and vaping them. I just love the act of "smoking", moreso than the nicotine I think.

interesting, thx for your story. this is what i was hopin for. someone that tried it. man i wish you all the best. i think ima give it a shot. stick to the 2 month plan on patches and hope it works. i dont really wanna "yummy tastin" e-juice. i want it to taste nasty. like a analog. so if i do give in n "feed my habit" it wont be so rewarding. btw smoke assist dont taste so great. lol

 

[lopster]

I sampled a couple of patches the doc gave me a long time ago. The thing I found was that the patch is a constant, long term dose. My cravings go up and down depending on mood/stress/what I'm doing/etc. So I tried the really strong one and kind of felt like I had the heebee jeebies most of the day. Nicotine gum was better for variable strength short term doses but there were other issues with that and I ended up smoking and using the gum when I couldn't or it was inconvenient.

When i quit 5 or so years ago, i did the ziban n patch mix. it worked like a champ for me. i did the 5 days pills and on my quit date i put the patch on. on the 3rd day i forgot to put the patch on n didnt notice so i never wore one again. and quit takin the pills a month later. i didnt notice any side affects or anything. i kick myself in the *ss all the time for pickin up another analog 9 months later. after i quit this time, im soo done. and this is another reason im choosin the route i am. its ok if i hit the 510 from time to time down the road. there is no nicotine in it or all that other crap. just the fact is, i love smokin. just not the reprocussions.

 

[lopster]

I see your idea - but you'll probably get less and more controllable nic levels from the juice than a patch. Just my 2 cents, you're an adult and capable of making your own decisions, but I've never found the patches to be a 'good' source. Got very anxious on them, the nic levels seemed super high, even the low ones. I personally feel far more in control using a PV and being in sole charge of how much, or how little nic I actually consume (or think i consume, it could well be a lot less than I think its, there's some debate on the efficacy of nic absorbtion through the lungs/mouth than skin).
I wish you all the best whatever you choose - I presume you posted here because you wanted opinions?
It may well be that the PV you have right now (smoke assists is it?) is so bad that you felt the need to resort to patches - you shouldn't find that with a better unit. With a good unit you may well find no need to rely on the patch as its more reliable and just more pleasant in general.

thx, opinions, and if others have tried this route before. i have noticed the patches are hard core. sometimes it feels like i can feel it pumpin it into me. but im not sure. idk i did alot of homework on this, got mind set for quittin, made a plan, n now im executin. yea im military. lol good luck to you to!

 

[Katmar]

thx, opinions, and if others have tried this route before. i have noticed the patches are hard core. sometimes it feels like i can feel it pumpin it into me. but im not sure. idk i did alot of homework on this, got mind set for quittin, made a plan, n now im executin. yea im military. lol good luck to you to!

As long as you feel comfortable with your decision, that's all that really matters. Sound like you have a hold of the situation.

Best of luck to you.

Keep us posted!!

 

[sheep]

Good luck lopster, I think you're on the right path. The patches kept me from smoking in the first two weeks, then I got the vaporizer and decided I just didn't need them anymore. I have one pack left that I'm keeping in reserve for when I go fully to 0 nic juice. When I was using the patch and the PV, I found that vaping fully took care of the "habit". I could go out for my "smoke" break and still feel like I was "smoking". Haven't even had a craving for an analog since.

 

[lopster]

Good luck lopster, I think you're on the right path. The patches kept me from smoking in the first two weeks, then I got the vaporizer and decided I just didn't need them anymore. I have one pack left that I'm keeping in reserve for when I go fully to 0 nic juice. When I was using the patch and the PV, I found that vaping fully took care of the "habit". I could go out for my "smoke" break and still feel like I was "smoking". Haven't even had a craving for an analog since.

sweet! this is what i like to hear! for a bit i thought maybe i was crazy or something! lol im only day 2, and yea the 4x i have used my poopy smoke assist, it does make me feel like i fed my "habit" thx for the input

 

[Lightgeoduck]

Hey lobster... you have a good concept there.... and if it works...by all means try it.... one thing to keep in mind so your expectations don't get too twisted...

Yes the patches is good to satisfy the nicotine withdraw... but understand that zero nic juice has less of a throat hit... you know the sensation you get in the back of your mouth while smoking.... so it MIGHT feel like you are just blowing vapor and may not get the full experience you were expecting.... the higher the nic level the more then "tingling" feeling you get that similates the habit.

you will know what I am talking about when you get first hand experience.... NOW If it works great... stick with what you feel is right.... if it DOES NOT work... get a higher nic juice next time... like a 24 or 36mg nic level... the reason I say so high.. since you will already have some zeros you can cut it down to your liking and you will get more bang for your buck

i.e. 50/50 0 and 24 = 12 and so forth


good luck and welcome

 

[lopster]

thx alot lightgeoduck. good tips indeed! i have been debatin on gettin atleast one high nic level content just incase. but then it will be temptin to just vape it! lol im so determined on quittin analog's this time. i have to. im military and man my run time has turned to crap! lol

 

[Lightgeoduck]

thx alot lightgeoduck. good tips indeed! i have been debatin on gettin atleast one high nic level content just incase. but then it will be temptin to just vape it! lol im so determined on quittin analog's this time. i have to. im military and man my run time has turned to crap! lol

Keep up with it my friend even if you fall just get back up and drive hard .... you will be maxing your pt test in no time

 

[Kurt]

Agree with the 0 nic vaping with patch. I've had two friends smoke and forgot they had the patch on, and ended up in the ER thinking they were having a heart attack. The problem is that by the time you start to feel sick, that's just the beginning. So mixing vaping nic with patch nic is not wise.

You can increase the TH with PG and/or about 10% PGA. Both will add a little burn. Some flavors do this too...coffee does with me, and so does menthol.

Good luck!