E-Cigg on Fox News tonight
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NO-NO-NO, there is no such thing as "Industrial or pharmaceutical grade". USP-NF does not list things by silly descriptive adjectives! The different grades are simply listed by percentage of purity.
We fought long & hard to have the term "pharmaceutical grade" deleted from legislation here, because if passed, "pharmaceutical grade" could mean anything that that the zealots wanted it to mean. (including the impossible)
There is no legal definition of what "pharmaceutical grade" actually is.
I actually watched it again at 1am. Greg actually didn't do that bad as I had commented on my original impression. He did make some good points. I still think it could have went a whole lot better though. I was trying to look at it from a non-vapers point of view the second time I watched. We have got to understand that the general public are just being introduced to vaping and are not as knowledgeable as we are on the topic. That, coupled with the fact of time constraints of the segment and Greg trying to throw a comic twist on things it didn't come off half bad. Just my second observation here.
Edit: Also the guest, I think, did awesome in his rebuttal of the doctor with his comment on parental responsibility and also his question on whether she would recommend to her patients either to smoke or vape caught her off guard.
Edit: Also the guest, I think, did awesome in his rebuttal of the doctor with his comment on parental responsibility and also his question on whether she would recommend to her patients either to smoke or vape caught her off guard.
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The time constraint is what killed that segment. You would need to have a whole hour, or more, to have a true meaningful debate. problem is, nobody but us would watch it.
I think the doctor simply stated what the majority of Americans think about vaping; that opinion doesn't seem to be changing, either. Even abroad, I met a fellow at a club I ended up hanging out with- he had a few extra ladies... The discussion ended up about e-nic, as I was using the ProVari, and first comments were standard- those are worse than smoking. My buddy is a physician from Australia, who was chain smoking. The ladies were English, also smoking, and thought e-nic was more dangerous than cigarettes...
when are people going to realize that network news is entertainment. it is not intended to educate or inform.this is why foreign news services like RT are far more popular on the internet where young people get their information. network news is an outdated dinosaur that is slowly going extinct. this debate was meant to be entertaining.a real debate with people presenting evidence and facts. would lower their ratings.I do think a doctors position on vaping would be a good indication of how well informed that doctor is. personally I want a doctor that is well informed and not just following the party line.but when their first concern is profits patient care suffers.I do not think I would trust these TV doctors to cut my hair.
in a few years when your friends start suffering from smoking related illness and you will still be strong and healthy they will see the error of their ways. e-nic is no more dangerous than caffeine maybe we need to start talking about banning Starbucks and regulating coffee and soda
and of course we can't forget the growing threat of obesity. how many of these "experts" drink coffee and eat "junk food"
True, i have been told more than once by smokers that they would never try e-cigs because they have no clue what's in them and for all they know it's worst than cigarettes. We are definitely not winning the PR campaign.
Which is pretty sad, a (purportedly) doctor giving a "professional opinion" based on what the layperson "thinks".
how do we know that this "professional doctor" is not being paid by BT or BP to spread the corporate propaganda I mix my own e-juice so I know exactly whats in it.just because someone on TV or the internet claims to be an expert does not mean that they know what they are talking about.
You might be interested in this...
TONIGHT - E-cigarette segment: Dr. Carl V. Phillips v. Stan Glantz 10:45 pm Eastern | E-Cigarette Forum
I have to assume that the MSDA and other data provided by the manufacturer is accurate but I trust these companies to comply with federal law. clearly they are not going to provide their proprietary recipes but are required by law to report any chemicals that may pose a health risk. I don't know whats in the air I breath or the water I drink because they don't test for everything but I am very confident that vaping is healthier than smoking and many heath problems I had before I switched to vaping have disappeared so my body is telling me that it's better for me. with all the paranoia and fear I see in these forums I am beginning to think that we are our own worst enemy
I always figured the depression and suicide risks were the result of quitting cigarettes, not taking Chantix!Been there , done that, Hospitalized because of it.
Greg Gutfeld has long been a supporter of electronic cigarettes.
But he uses a Blu and does not appear to have a solid grasp on the issues.
It would be really nice if he could back up his emotional convictions with more facts.
And that's where we come in.
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But he uses a Blu and does not appear to have a solid grasp on the issues.
It would be really nice if he could back up his emotional convictions with more facts.
And that's where we come in.
Contact | Greg Gutfeld
No, The Chantix itself causes these symptoms. (I have never had suicide risks from quitting any other way)
You also sometimes get vivid nightmares, I had nightmares where I became a mass murder. Was kinda creepy.
There is no federal law which states a food flavoring must be tested for repeated heating and inhalation...
this is true but it usually requires much higher temperatures than we vape at to change a chemical compound.when used in food they are frequent heated to much higher temperatures than most people vape at. you can get formaldehyde out of an e-cig but it would require a temperature that is very unpleasant to vape at.I transported hazardous materials for 35 years and have some knowledge of them and their properties.it seems that too many smokers believe the false claims about the dangers of e-cigs. and arguing that it must be dangerous without solid scientific evidence to support that claim may mislead smokers and create a real body count.tobacco is a known risk. vaping has improved the health of smokers who use it to quit.pharmaceuticals have not helped many of us but vaping has.if you are afraid of vaping then don't do it
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