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I understand that Health Canada has banned certan e-cigs in Canada. Also heard people ordered from the USA, only to have thier shipments confiscated by Canada Customs, even though suppliers told them they were allowed, while suppliers knew they were not allowed in Canada. Bought an "ecigbrand" in the USA last winter, but only bought 20 atomizers with it. Am looking for more atomizers. Not sure if this is the right number, but the atomizer box has "KS1-CARTHIG01" on it. Also thinking about a smokestik brand. They claim they have a Canadian division, but heard they got closed down by HC in 09.Is this still an old websight, or are they now available in Canada? Or what other ecigs are available in Canada. My wife has been using the ecigbrand since March, and likes it. It looks like a traditional cigarette, and has a tobaco flavor. I would also like to get an ecig for myself. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks: Jamescurtis​
 

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E cigs are very much available in Canada, just have a read around this forum. Also, go request the list of hardware and juice vendors in the sticky near the op of the forum, it will give you all the Canadian websites to choose from.

The brands you mentioned aren't very popular, there are way better things out there. Read a few "I'm a noob, what should I start with" threads you'll find in this forum and you'll get a good idea of what's good these days. My quick advice is to start with an eGo kit and LR boge cartomizers from canvape.
 

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Actually for the record...nicotine is not banned in Canada. Ditto for batts, cartos, attys, etc etc. E-juice w/nic, e-cig hardware & all of that...is perfectly legal. The problem is that for ages, Health Canada has been ignoring the law, contradicting the law, pretending things are in the law when they aren't...et cetera.

At the same time, vendors are required to be compliant with Canadian law...which leads to the other side of the problem, i.e. for a long time vendors haven't been compliant with anything. This is due in no small part to the fact that no one has had a clear understanding of what the legal requirements for compliance are.

That's changing now. Providing the relevant, comprehensive legal research etc in an easy-to-understand format, thereby putting an end to confusion over compliance with Canadian law...is one of the benefits that membership in ECTA (the Electronic Cigarette Trade Association (ECTA) of Canada) offers to Canadian vendors. Membership in ECTA isn't required in order to be compliant with the law of course...but it sure does make it easier to understand what's needed, and a lot more affordable too. Which is great!

So yeah...I understand your confusion over the legal situation James. Believe me, you're not alone in that. But things are going to get a lot better & clearer in the months & years to come. At the end of the day, all vendors are obligated to get compliant: their only choice is how are they gonna go about it. An increasing number of them are doing what's needed, in a way that will eventually end the nonsense from HC...and secure our long-term access to vape products in Canada which are verifiably accurate, safe, and legally compliant. Yay!

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Now you say you want to make the switch to vaping yourself. Right on!
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Congrats on making one of the best choices you'll ever make. There's a world of vapey options for you to consider...from the kind of e-cig you want (shape, battery life, colour etc)...to the flavours & nic-strength of e-juice you'd like. And more.

When I was new, I began with the Joye 510. It's a very common cig-shaped starter model; easy to use. The 510 (180 mAh) has about 2 hours of battery life...but only takes about 1 hour to recharge. Best to have two of these, so that you can use one while the other recharges. Here's a photo of my first one from way back, with a Boge cartomizer:

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If a cig-shaped device is not as important to you as good battery life...then I would suggest getting an eGo instead. They're just as easy to use as the 510...but the eGo is a bit fatter & stubbier. It's still pretty light & small though. An eGo (650 mAh) will last for around 6 hours...with 2 hours or less to recharge. A Mega eGo (900 to 1100 mAh, depending on the model) will be a bit heavier, & physically longer than a standard eGo...but will probably last you all day!

510's and eGos are by far the most common starter models. They do what they're supposed to & they're quite affordable. You can get a Joye 510 battery by itself for $20 or less; an eGo for a few bucks more. I'd advise against a "starter kit" because all you really need are:

1) a battery or two + the charger
2) a box or two of cartomizers (or a few atomizers, if you prefer those)
3) and some juices

With a starter kit though you're basically shelling out for fancier packaging, and some doodads that you don't really want or need.

Another model option would be the Bloog. Bloogs are cig-shaped starter models with a little more power than a Joye 510; the main difference though is they have a different threading. A lot of models, from simple to advanced...use the 510's threading. This means that you can use a 510 atomizer or cartomizer on all kinds of devices. A Boge 510 cartomizer, for example: I've used these on every e-cig I've ever owned.

The Bloog has an 808 threading instead, which is fine...it's just not as widespread as the 510 threading is. Bear in mind that you can also buy these little adapter thingies, for only a few bucks. So for example a 510-to-808 adapter: when screwed onto your 510-threaded battery, it would let you connect an 808-threaded carto. You see? Mind you it can be kind of annoying to carry around adapters with you, unless you really need em. Most vapers prefer to just use an e-cig that's already compatible with their atty or carto etc.

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Anyway, there are a lot of vendors in Canada, with a lot of different choices. I would encourage you to shop around, really take your time to see what's available...

...and take advantage of the forum here too. It can really help you to get educated & avoid some pricey mistakes (like that overpriced awful Smokestik you were looking at, lol). Btw, if you're not sure what nic level would be a good one to start with...I personally advise that you start with a couple of bottles of juice at 18mg. If you want more nic than that (or less than that) down the line...no problem. But it's a good starting place, 18mg.

I would also advise a juice that has PG and VG in it. An all-PG juice will be lacking in visible vapour production, especially if you inhale. Conversely, an all-VG juice will be really thick. It'll produce tons of vapour...but muted throat-hit. VG is not as good as PG when it comes to carrying flavour, either. Most vapers use juices that have both, to strike a good balance between vapour production, throat hit, flavour & ease of use. Figuring out the ratio that you prefer is...part of the journey, hun.

Like I said, there's a whole bunch of vendors you can find in Canada. Most of whom are pretty great. You can Google some of them - you can request a supplier's list via PM - and you can check out ECTA's member-vendors too, via the link I gave earlier.

Above all, don't be shy to ask questions here. Opinions will frequently vary (especially over juice preferences). But don't let that stop you. All we can do is be friendly, share our experiences, help you become aware of options...and offer subjective opinions, lol. (Case in point: I can't stand atomizers, but I love Boge cartomizers. Yet some feel the complete opposite of what I feel about those. You see?)

Anyway, enough rambling. All the best & hope you'll be happily vaping soon James!
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Actually for the record...nicotine is not banned in Canada. Ditto for batts, cartos, attys, etc etc. E-juice w/nic, e-cig hardware & all of that...is perfectly legal. The problem is that for ages, Health Canada has been ignoring the law, contradicting the law, pretending things are in the law when they aren't...et cetera.

At the same time, vendors are required to be compliant with Canadian law...which leads to the other side of the problem, i.e. for a long time vendors haven't been compliant with anything. This is due in no small part to the fact that no one has had a clear understanding of what the legal requirements for compliance are.

That's changing now. Providing the relevant, comprehensive legal research etc in an easy-to-understand format, thereby putting an end to confusion over compliance with Canadian law...is one of the benefits that membership in ECTA (the Electronic Cigarette Trade Association (ECTA) of Canada) offers to Canadian vendors. Membership in ECTA isn't required in order to be compliant with the law of course...but it sure does make it easier to understand what's needed, and a lot more affordable too. Which is great!

So yeah...I understand your confusion over the legal situation James. Believe me, you're not alone in that. But things are going to get a lot better & clearer in the months & years to come. At the end of the day, all vendors are obligated to get compliant: their only choice is how are they gonna go about it. An increasing number of them are doing what's needed, in a way that will eventually end the nonsense from HC...and secure our long-term access to vape products in Canada which are verifiably accurate, safe, and legally compliant. Yay!

---

Now you say you want to make the switch to vaping yourself. Right on!
FVxh8.gif


Congrats on making one of the best choices you'll ever make. There's a world of vapey options for you to consider...from the kind of e-cig you want (shape, battery life, colour etc)...to the flavours & nic-strength of e-juice you'd like. And more.

When I was new, I began with the Joye 510. It's a very common cig-shaped starter model; easy to use. The 510 (180 mAh) has about 2 hours of battery life...but only takes about 1 hour to recharge. Best to have two of these, so that you can use one while the other recharges. Here's a photo of my first one from way back, with a Boge cartomizer:

rBXQ6.jpg

If a cig-shaped device is not as important to you as good battery life...then I would suggest getting an eGo instead. They're just as easy to use as the 510...but the eGo is a bit fatter & stubbier. It's still pretty light & small though. An eGo (650 mAh) will last for around 6 hours...with 2 hours or less to recharge. A Mega eGo (900 to 1100 mAh, depending on the model) will be a bit heavier, & physically longer than a standard eGo...but will probably last you all day!

510's and eGos are by far the most common starter models. They do what they're supposed to & they're quite affordable. You can get a Joye 510 battery by itself for $20 or less; an eGo for a few bucks more. I'd advise against a "starter kit" because all you really need are:

1) a battery or two + the charger
2) a box or two of cartomizers (or a few atomizers, if you prefer those)
3) and some juices

With a starter kit though you're basically shelling out for fancier packaging, and some doodads that you don't really want or need.

Another model option would be the Bloog. Bloogs are cig-shaped starter models with a little more power than a Joye 510; the main difference though is they have a different threading. A lot of models, from simple to advanced...use the 510's threading. This means that you can use a 510 atomizer or cartomizer on all kinds of devices. A Boge 510 cartomizer, for example: I've used these on every e-cig I've ever owned.

The Bloog has an 808 threading instead, which is fine...it's just not as widespread as the 510 threading is. Bear in mind that you can also buy these little adapter thingies, for only a few bucks. So for example a 510-to-808 adapter: when screwed onto your 510-threaded battery, it would let you connect an 808-threaded carto. You see? Mind you it can be kind of annoying to carry around adapters with you, unless you really need em. Most vapers prefer to just use an e-cig that's already compatible with their atty or carto etc.

---

Anyway, there are a lot of vendors in Canada, with a lot of different choices. I would encourage you to shop around, really take your time to see what's available...

...and take advantage of the forum here too. It can really help you to get educated & avoid some pricey mistakes (like that overpriced awful Smokestik you were looking at, lol). Btw, if you're not sure what nic level would be a good one to start with...I personally advise that you start with a couple of bottles of juice at 18mg. If you want more nic than that (or less than that) down the line...no problem. But it's a good starting place, 18mg.

I would also advise a juice that has PG and VG in it. An all-PG juice will be lacking in visible vapour production, especially if you inhale. Conversely, an all-VG juice will be really thick. It'll produce tons of vapour...but muted throat-hit. VG is not as good as PG when it comes to carrying flavour, either. Most vapers use juices that have both, to strike a good balance between vapour production, throat hit, flavour & ease of use. Figuring out the ratio that you prefer is...part of the journey, hun.

Like I said, there's a whole bunch of vendors you can find in Canada. Most of whom are pretty great. You can Google some of them - you can request a supplier's list via PM - and you can check out ECTA's member-vendors too, via the link I gave earlier.

Above all, don't be shy to ask questions here. Opinions will frequently vary (especially over juice preferences). But don't let that stop you. All we can do is be friendly, share our experiences, help you become aware of options...and offer subjective opinions, lol. (Case in point: I can't stand atomizers, but I love Boge cartomizers. Yet some feel the complete opposite of what I feel about those. You see?)

Anyway, enough rambling. All the best & hope you'll be happily vaping soon James!
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I believe this is one of the most comprehensive and thorough responses I've ever read. Nicely done :)
 

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Thank you rachelcoffe +1 on google for you on this one.

you said you ordered for the USA originally? What brand?

From personal experience in the past (February of this year), my wife who is in Kansas would UPS me up the kits and carts. If either her or myself can find the paper work i will scan it to show you, there is a way you can get it sent via UPS. It is the Geneva Convention or can be allowed under the NATO clause....i think it was called the NATO clause.....yes i know both seem far fetched also i know some love to fan the sparks of imaturity and want to do proverbial name calling, but i swear UPS does this under either of those clauses....

If i can just get off my ..... put down the APV and find it all ;)
 

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My brother thought they were illegal in Canada as well, really hope he took my advice and visited these forums and got to read this thread as there is some really good answers posted here. Was funny I asked him when he was going get one, and he answered "when they are legal". Never ceases to amaze me just how much misinformation is out there.
 

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As Adults, we have the right to choice.

We have the right to smoke, and we also have the right to seek out cessation methods. Terms like "legal" are simply catch alls for people who really don't want to make the switch.



Yes, but as a resident of this country, your choices are limited by what the government allows.
 

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My belief structure does not mesh with that of my government, so I pay them as little mind as possible...and therefore my choices have not been stifled. If I want something vape-wise, I can acquire it. Either by direct delivery or by other creative methods.

If you really want to stop smoking by vaping, but only the "law" that someone else has written or "guidelines" which you were not consulted on is stopping you, then no one can help you.
 

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Wow Rachel I thought some of my posts were on the longer side but I bow down to you with that one :) I'll try to add to this.

It's not that e-cigarettes and related supplies are against the law, like for instance buying and smoking weed. Thankfully, the substance in question, nicotine, is legal, as Rachel points out, otherwise you wouldn't be able to buy the gum, inhalers, patches, and other assorted crap that is for sale these days.

So what's going on here is that nicotine containing products, including cigarettes, are regulated. For instance you can't sell cigarettes if your store has a pharmacy, so that's why you see the little cigarette shops set up outside the big grocery stores.

So the regulations with our stuff cash out to the fact that if you import it and Customs seizes it, you are out of luck, however they don't catch much of it. You can't get in trouble for this by the way, they just take it or send it back, whatever. So people have been ordering this and other prohibited items such as certain supplements like DHEA for years. I've been ordering DHEA for about 15 years from the states for instance, it's absurd that HC would not allow it to be imported, but screw them.

As for the sale of these products in Canada, you see the ripoff e-cigs being sold in stores, zero nic products, and they probably want to keep that going since there's nothing that turns people off to vaping like this crap. I spoke to a friend the other day who said she tried e-cigs and they were totally awful, will never try them again, and when I asked what she tried it was a crappy disposable from the store which she says had awful tasting tobacco juice, so bad that the analogs she smokes tasted a lot better. Of course they don't put any nic in them and nic is the reason why we do this, so that's not going to get people to throw away their smokes by any means.

This is the .... they should be prohibiting of course. On the other hand, all forms of supplies are available right here in Canada although you have to order them from the internet. You can get pretty much anything you want though without having to import anything. So we're being "warned" by HC not to do this, but that's the extent of it, and when it comes down to it, as long as you are in the know here, HC can just kiss our ... :D
 
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