Well, since so many people seem to be a little confused as to what it is you think was being discussed...
Maybe you might want to restate it clearly one more time.
E Juice not a tobacco product????
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Maybe you might want to restate it clearly one more time.
Well, since so many people seem to be a little confused as to what it is you think was being discussed...
Maybe you might want to restate it clearly one more time.
In lieu of favorable regulation, a judicial remedy might be sought. Divorcing nicotine from tobacco could clear up some of the political liabilities.
Huh?
I'm fighting for vaping to stay a viable alternative to smoking. So, yes I'm fighting.
Simple questions for you to answer with a yes or no.
Are you writing when the calls to action show up at the top of the ECF page?
Are you a member of CASAA?
If the answer is no, then how are you fighting?
Enough with the irrelevant questions. They are red herrings and your ignorance of the answers isn't probative regardless.
My statements are related to the content of this thread (as all on-topic posting is). If you don't understand that, I suggest just bowing out.
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lol dr g you took a cheap shot at robino1 and she pointed out your wrong and how your wrong. honestly theres no stright forward black and white answer or this thread wouldnt be here and even if it was stright forward I doubt the fda wouldnt find some other way to get what they want in the end...
I think you are Starting to Understand that if you Try to get Specific Answers to Question from the Good Doctor, that you are just Meet with More Vague and Flowery Metaphors.
It's difficult to get a Straight Answer out of dr g because I don't think dr g has one to Give.
I sort of understand what your getting at dr g and I agree but you did take a cheap shot when you said to ask the folks who are argueing against the steps to get what we want... you included. she pointed your wrong and how by stateing she active member of CASAA and does surveys etc.
I agree these shold be classed but dont care too mcuh how as long as its fair and doesnt affect the lowering nic too low, its going to happen not matter what we do or want but just how much they will ruin it depends on how active we are.
I agree these shold be classed but dont care too mcuh how as long as its fair and doesnt affect the lowering nic too low, its going to happen not matter what we do or want but just how much they will ruin it depends on how active we are.
Which is why I asked a couple of simple questions that could be answered with a yes or no. Evading answering tells way more that pontificating points that are not in said post. Since the light has been shown on where the subject stands, I will leave those, more willing to play the game, to their hunt.
I may pop in for amusement purposes though.
There is one person, who would be considered a very knowledgeable insider, that indicates there are those prepared to file lawsuits if things turn out badly.
Divorcing nicotine from tobacco is not only a worthy goal, it is probably almost a requirement if we are to ever get any peace.
Well, I guess really it would only be a start, because then we need to overcome the tendency to view nicotine as some kind of evil substance.
Regardless, these are things that some people have been trying to do for awhile now.
We don't seem to be making much headway so far.
No that was not a cheap shot, it was a description of the posts on the topic and the fact that she also posted in a similar fashion on this topic. Maybe she didn't realize she did that and got defensive, I don't know. That other stuff is irrelevant to the topic.
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Oh I expect that. We were discussing a specific legal remedy however, to be clear.
Exactly the direction of the conversation until people that just had to disagree decided to take the position that tobacco regulation is unavoidable and not worth trying to work against.
Regardless, these are things that some people have been trying to do for awhile now.
We don't seem to be making much headway so far.
Hence the talk of legal remedy. These days it can be one of the few ways the little guy can get his.
How did we get off the Statements in the starting post?I keep seeing statements to this effect in the posts on this board.
E Juice with out nic. I Can agree to that fact.
E juice with nic I believe it is a tobacco product,
At least the Nic comes tobacco
I believe we as vapors that still are using E juice with nic. Should admit we are still using a tobacco product. All though less harm full then a Cig.
Yeah, there does seem to be some defensiveness going on here .. just not from Robin ..
Not defensive at all. Maybe I should've put an emoticon in there
For that, I sincerely apologize.
No that that is behind us.
How are you fighting the bigwigs to get ecigs classified in a way that is more suitable?
What are your ideas for this to happen?
I'm not trying to be argumentative, I really am curious as to how to go about doing this.....
For that, I sincerely apologize.
No that that is behind us.
How are you fighting the bigwigs to get ecigs classified in a way that is more suitable?
What are your ideas for this to happen?
I'm not trying to be argumentative, I really am curious as to how to go about doing this.....
Maybe it's a matter of semantics, because tobacco regulation probably is unavoidable.
Any legal remedies would need to come after the fact.
As far as I know you can't really have a legal remedy until there is something to remedy.
And there won't be anything to remedy until the FDA tells us what the regulations are going to be.
Unless maybe you are talking about some of the many different state, county, and/or city legislative actions?
To provide a Remedy, there has to be an Injured Party to provide the Remedy to.
So yes, you would have to Bring Forth a Suit Claiming that some Party was Injured because of the FDA's Actions.
And the Chances of winning that Suit are about the Same as Winning the Lotto while Being Struck by Lightning.
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