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Travis county in Texas has just issued a ban on all tobacco products on county property and has included e-cigs. I have the strongest urge to purchase zero nic juice and sit on county property vaping away and let them just haul my old behind to jail.Are there a lot of areas doing this?
Take a video if you do it. Their reach exceeds their grasp.
Now I do not enter into a debate with the Mighty Monkey lightly, but they are calling it a ban. So you cannot say it's not a ban. They are not saying you cannot smoke it. They are saying you cannot posses a legal product. It is county property, that is public property, not private. You can ban something in your home because it is your PRIVATE property, GT. The county does not have the same rights as your personal property that is protected by the fourth amendment.
"Its not an opinion, its a fact!"
---Tywin Lannister
(in this case it is actually an opinion)
Currently nicotine is derived from tobacco. What is needed is synthetic nicotine. That would give us a better fight against the FDA as well.
While we are at it...
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This madness has to stop. The local, state and federal governments are totally out of control. They work for us, not the other way around. Who the hell do they think they are? You can make a semi-rational argument that smoking causes a health issue (I would argue this is not the case outdoors, but whatever). You cannot for a second make the case that possession of a legal non-weapon product is anyone's damn business!!! The county property belongs to the residents of the County! Throw the county supervisors out on their
and send them a message! Don't make rules that don't make sense, ever. Do your job and shut up. I am paying your salary with my taxes, you better mind your P's and Q's, or I will get someone in that office that will. <end of rant>
We caught a break here in VA today, they said it was gonna snow, but nothing but sunshine here in Richmond.
<begin rant>
This madness has to stop. The local, state and federal governments are totally out of control. They work for us, not the other way around. Who the hell do they think they are? You can make a semi-rational argument that smoking causes a health issue (I would argue this is not the case outdoors, but whatever). You cannot for a second make the case that possession of a legal non-weapon product is anyone's damn business!!! The county property belongs to the residents of the County! Throw the county supervisors out on their
and send them a message! Don't make rules that don't make sense, ever. Do your job and shut up. I am paying your salary with my taxes, you better mind your P's and Q's, or I will get someone in that office that will. <end of rant>We caught a break here in VA today, they said it was gonna snow, but nothing but sunshine here in Richmond.
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Sadly, it is not currently economically viable to extract nicotine from any other source than tobacco. It exists in many plants, but in insufficient concentrations to remove commercially. You need to invent the process!
Whether city,county,state or country, they are all working from the same playbook. Look at all of the UN directives that are bound by treaty for a glimpse of where we are all headed (NWO). Even on city level, the chamber of commerce is an arm of the UN. Yes, treaty trumps (not donald) the constitution. NAFTA,GATT,etc. By treaty, the tics have surrendered our sovereignty whether one chooses to believe it or not. Keep in mind, the power to tax,is the power to destroy. That has always been true & holds true today.
While we are at it...
<begin rant>
This madness has to stop. The local, state and federal governments are totally out of control. They work for us, not the other way around. Whe the hell do they think they are? You can make a semi-rational argument that smoking causes a health issue (I would argue this is not the case outdoors, but whatever). You cannot for a second make the case that possession of a legal non-weapon product is anyone's damn business!!! The county property belongs to the residents of the County! Throw the county supervisors out on their
We caught a break here in VA today, they said it was gonna snow, but nothing but sunshine here in Richmond.
When people fear their government, it's tyranny.
When goverment fears it's people, it's liberty.
I have no doubt that if it became financially feasible to use synthetic nicotine, the FDA would declare it a drug.
And I also have no doubt that it would hold up in court.
Precisely. Actually, its derivation from tobacco is what CASAA used to establish its protection under the Tobacco Settlement Act. We must take the fight to the FDA, not wait for them to hit us. I just need to figure out how....
While we are at it...
<begin rant>
This madness has to stop. The local, state and federal governments are totally out of control. They work for us, not the other way around. Whe the hell do they think they are? You can make a semi-rational argument that smoking causes a health issue (I would argue this is not the case outdoors, but whatever). You cannot for a second make the case that possession of a legal non-weapon product is anyone's damn business!!! The county property belongs to the residents of the County! Throw the county supervisors out on their
We caught a break here in VA today, they said it was gonna snow, but nothing but sunshine here in Richmond.
I see you used your emoticon
Banning smoking, on it's own, outside is ridiculous. Banning vaping is preposterous.
I would have to think by then it would be too late.
On the other hand, they are already working on banning vaping in private residences...
Petaluma council toughens smoking restrictions
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...york-county-pa-ban-e-cigs-public-housing.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...bout-bring-smoking-vaping-bans-new-level.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...g-e-cigarettes-low-income-public-housing.html
Yeah, maybe it is already too late.
Yes, all who see my creative use of this emoticon, hear me. The Great Robino1 shared this technology with me. Making my esteem of her even higher than its original lofty status! All Hail Robin!
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Writer of passionate words.
Staunch defender of her friends.
And sub-moderator with a heart the size of Texas.
I'm not saying nicotine would be classified as a drug, just synthetic nicotine.
We need to put them on their heels, it has been too long since they felt accountable to the masses.
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