e-juice steals won't ship to CA

[vaper1960]

Haven't checked them out for awhile so looked today and saw a notice that they won't ship to California.
Only LA and San Fran have banned vaping (that I know of) Why did they do this? They state it's because of "ongoing Youth Prevention efforts"... I have not head about this. The only issue here in CA is sometimes they require you to show an ID when getting your order. I have ordered several times before...

 

[GeekyGeezer]

Haven't checked them out for awhile so looked today and saw a notice that they won't ship to California.
Only LA and San Fran have banned vaping (that I know of) Why did they do this? They state it's because of "ongoing Youth Prevention efforts"... I have not head about this. The only issue here in CA is sometimes they require you to show an ID when getting your order. I have ordered several times before...

I've never dealt with the company and can't speak for them. But in situations I've seen with other vendors, the problem is that their software can't be configured to block sales to just a city or county or area. There are major fines in place if they'd send a package to a place with restrictions. So to guarantee they won't be hauled into court and have to shell out a chunk of money, they do the only thing their software will allow - blocking sales to the entire state.

If the company is of decent size, it's not going to be possible to have an individual going through every order and crosschecking to make sure it can be sent.

 

[vaper1960]

I've never dealt with the company and can't speak for them. But in situations I've seen with other vendors, the problem is that their software can't be configured to block sales to just a city or county or area. There are major fines in place if they'd send a package to a place with restrictions. So to guarantee they won't be hauled into court and have to shell out a chunk of money, they do the only thing their software will allow - blocking sales to the entire state.

That does make sense (they seem to be a small company and would not be able to deal with a lawsuit)
Don't really care so much about that company (their stock is getting low anyway) but am concerned if this a new trend in general. Damned kids have ruined it for us legit adults.

 

[vaper1960]

Just did a search on the topic and it seems mostly about southern CA (LA area)

 

[smacuser]

Now is a good time to DIY.

 

[Beamslider]

I'm in San Francisco. I DIY juice so don't really run into the shipping problem. But I did order some fruit premade juices from Nictotine river located in CA and they shipped it so they don't care about the SF ban. I also ordered some naked 100 ejuice several times for a friend from VapeSocietySupply in Nevada. They also shipped so apparently don't care either.

The vape store in SF I used to get juice from before I started making my own, sells them under the counter to people they know as otherwise they can only sell unflavored stuff basically.

Nicotine River does ship adult signature only to here though

 

[vaper1960]

Now is a good time to DIY.

I've been doing DIY for for a long time... just wanted to suggest something to a newbie (that's when I noticed the issue)

 

[vaper1960]

It has become a very confusing issue... and (personally) I have enough nic for awhile. but need to get some more before it costs $300 for what now cost $30... we are all getting very worried.

 

[Katya]

have enough nic for awhile. but need to get some more before it costs $300 for what now cost $30... we are all getting very worried.

More like $2780, per Rossum's calculations.

H.R.4742 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to impose a tax on nicotine used in vaping, etc.
2.78 cents per milligram of nicotine used in vaping.
Approved by the Ways & Means Committee earlier this week, so on its way to the floor of the House.

Similar bill in the Senate:
S.2463 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): E-Cigarette Tax Parity Act
This one looks to have 21 co-sponsors, 20 Democrats and one "Independent".

If these bills become law, there will be a tax of at least $2780 on a liter of 100mg DIY base that currently sells tor as little as $45.

 

[Katya]

Haven't checked them out for awhile so looked today and saw a notice that they won't ship to California.
Only LA and San Fran have banned vaping (that I know of) Why did they do this? They state it's because of "ongoing Youth Prevention efforts"... I have not head about this. The only issue here in CA is sometimes they require you to show an ID when getting your order. I have ordered several times before...

I got curious and placed a couple of mock orders from my usual eliquid vendors--no problems. So it must be vendor specific.

 

[JCinFLA]

As of yesterday, signature upon delivery is required for every order placed. Doesn't matter what it is...eliquid, hardware, etc. It increases the S/H cost by approx. $8.00 per order. I was told it's a requirement so that they can continue doing business.

 

[vaper1960]

As of yesterday, signature upon delivery is required for every order placed. Doesn't matter what it is...eliquid, hardware, etc. It increases the S/H cost by approx. $8.00 per order. I was told it's a requirement so that they can continue doing business.

Very inconvenient but mostly it's the extra charge that sucks (like for small orders) I had to pay the extra $5 for a small order.

 

[Katya]

As of yesterday, signature upon delivery is required for every order placed. Doesn't matter what it is...eliquid, hardware, etc. It increases the S/H cost by approx. $8.00 per order. I was told it's a requirement so that they can continue doing business.

Every order from e-juice steals only, correct?

 

[PeterKay]

Damned kids have ruined it for us legit adults.

kids are just a convenient excuse for government+ big tobacco mob. All about the money- kids get drunk as well and smoke cigarettes, can't see either of the two becoming illegal any soon

 

[JCinFLA]

Every order from e-juice steals only, correct?

Their General Manager didn't say. Just said the new CA requirement had just become effective yesterday. In fact, the new "blurb" about adult signature required for every order...appeared on the top of their pages while I was talking with him on the phone.

 

[smacuser]

Kids .

 

[JCinFLA]

Just got an email from ejuicesteals.com with new offer - Free Shipping with $75 order. Code = free-shipping

 

[Katya]

Their General Manager didn't say. Just said the new CA requirement had just become effective yesterday.

Geez. I checked. I had no idea this was happening.

E-Cigarette Regulations - California | Public Health Law Center.

 

[JCinFLA]

Geez. I checked. I had no idea this was happening.

Yep! Right there in black and white. I C&P it below, so people could see it without having to check and find it. Underline and bold was added by me.

Delivery sales, distribution, or nonsale distribution (e.g., mail, phone, online) of electronic cigarettes through the U.S. Postal Service or any other public or private postal service prohibited unless the age of the product purchaser is verified as 21 years or older at both time of purchase and delivery. Additionally, the container must be conspicuously labeled with “CONTAINS TOBACCO PRODUCTS: SIGNATURE OF PERSON 21 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER REQUIRED FOR DELIVERY.”

 

[Katya]

Ba-s-tards.

I'm seething.